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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby karacha on Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:51 pm

Well, that's a... uh... one ballsy statement. It's going to happen. :man9:
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:27 pm

This idea :man10:

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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Doberman on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:22 pm

This has to be the most retarded article I've read in some time.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby therealdeal on Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:28 pm

Doberman wrote:This has to be the most retarded article I've read in some time.


Aren't you the one that keeps saying Orlando is going to trade Howard for Gasol?
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby 24fanyes on Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:38 pm

I honestly don't want our team full of All Stars.. Come on we have a great team... we just need to get rid of Fish and we're good.

All you just want a bunch of All Stars, what fun is that?
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby therealdeal on Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:36 pm

Get rid of Fish? That's foolish. Fisher is still a capable player, just not a viable 30 minutes starter.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby KB&AB on Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:37 pm

No need to trade Bynum for Howard. Bynum is far more skilled on offense than Howard. there is no question Howard is a better defensive player than Bynum. But Bynum will improve and get better on defense. Bynum was a defensive beast when he was 20 years old before he got major knee injury. He can get this back.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Alcindor on Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:38 pm

24fanyes wrote:I honestly don't want our team full of All Stars.. Come on we have a great team... we just need to get rid of Fish and we're good.

All you just want a bunch of All Stars, what fun is that?



I don't know, winning 5 championships in the 80's and 5 in the last decade was kinda fun. Fisher, at least is a capable SG backup.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Turbo on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:29 pm

How about D-Will? Isn't he an FA and therefore hold more leverage in potential sign-and-trades?
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Alcindor on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:31 pm

Turbo wrote:How about D-Will? Isn't he an FA and therefore hold more leverage in potential sign-and-trades?


No he's not a FA.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Turbo on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:46 pm

Oops, my bad!

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Turbo wrote:How about D-Will? Isn't he an FA and therefore hold more leverage in potential sign-and-trades?


No he's not a FA.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby blakeruns on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:57 pm

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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby XXIV on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:06 pm

24fanyes wrote:I honestly don't want our team full of All Stars.. Come on we have a great team... we just need to get rid of Fish and we're good.

All you just want a bunch of All Stars, what fun is that?


When you're watching a sports game its never fun if your team loses, especially in the playoffs. I'd much rather have a team that dominates rather than one which is on par with every other team in the league.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby 24fanyes on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:31 pm

getting all those players would be just as bad as what the Heat did to try to win.

give this team a couple more seasons together, I know we can get it done. They had another wake up call last year like they did in 08'. Hope we win the next 2 again
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby XXIV on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:44 pm

24fanyes wrote:getting all those players would be just as bad as what the Heat did to try to win.

give this team a couple more seasons together, I know we can get it done. They had another wake up call last year like they did in 08'. Hope we win the next 2 again


The Heat getting together is not what made NBA fans hate them, it's the way they did it. First, Lebron creates The Decision which made him and the Heat look bad, plus it was a slap in the face to the Cavs. Then they hold a celebration party before they've even played their first game together and Lebron has the guts to say they will win more than 7 championships. Once the season actually starts they start talking about how they're the victims and everyone should feel sorry for them, etc. And then when they lose in the finals Lebron says something along the lines of how everyone will go back to their normal lives while he'll continue to live a rich life.

The "big 3" had all the right to do what they did that's why it's called free agency, but the manner in which they did it was completely wrong and created this bad image surrounding them.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Vasashi17 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:46 pm

Supposedly LA is in the mix....but its not us :man5:



...rather its the Clips who will throw everything they can at Orlando (except Blake Griffin) to bring in Dwight. If that's plan A, then plan B would be to bring in CP3....who just like the Clips consider them to be his plan B. Plan A for Chris are the Knicks.

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out, but it would be a big mistake if the Lakers didn't try to get involved.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby therealdeal on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:50 pm

1. Broussard is an idiot.
2. Howard still has to sign the extension.
a. Howard wants to win and if he wants to win he sure as hell isn't going to the Clippers.
b. If there is an offer made by both LA teams, Howard will sign the extension for the Lakers.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Vasashi17 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:57 pm

Well its always interesting when you hear that the Lakers are involved with every key free agent, cause basically we all know agents do that to up the price for their client for the real team that they want to join. In this case, what exactly is this "source" saying? Are they trying to send a cryptic message to the Lakers this time stating that we better make a move, otherwise we'll miss out???

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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Alcindor on Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:03 pm

24fanyes wrote:getting all those players would be just as bad as what the Heat did to try to win.

give this team a couple more seasons together, I know we can get it done. They had another wake up call last year like they did in 08'. Hope we win the next 2 again


Give this team a couple more seasons together? They've been together for years. They aren't going to make a move if it isn't a beneficial one. Why would you be against that?

ANY team would have done what the HEAT did if they were in position to. Even Donald Sterling.

No. Let's win now and do it anyway possible like the rest of the league tries to do, just not as well as us.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby last stand on Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:31 pm

the clippers have no bigs outside of griffin. their best offer for any star is eric gordon, eric bledsoe, and deandre jordan

why would dwight agree to go somewhere with an identical offensive player in griffin and no perimeter players

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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Doberman on Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:48 am

therealdeal wrote:
Doberman wrote:This has to be the most retarded article I've read in some time.


Aren't you the one that keeps saying Orlando is going to trade Howard for Gasol?


No. I'm saying the Lakers are in position to leverage the Magic into trading Dwight for expiring contracts, prospects and draft picks, like the Kwame-Gasol trade.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby The Laker Link on Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:48 am

As crazy and impossible as that is.....good to hear that things COULD happen still.

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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby Doberman on Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:50 am

therealdeal wrote:Get rid of Fish? That's foolish. Fisher is still a capable player, just not a viable 30 minutes starter.


Fisher isn't capable of anything on the court anymore.
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:46 am

Doberman wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Doberman wrote:This has to be the most retarded article I've read in some time.


Aren't you the one that keeps saying Orlando is going to trade Howard for Gasol?


No. I'm saying the Lakers are in position to leverage the Magic into trading Dwight for expiring contracts, prospects and draft picks, like the Kwame-Gasol trade.


What expiring contracts? And I'm fairly sure you've been the one saying that the Lakers can trade Pau for Dwight and have him play PF...
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Re: Mark Heisler: Lakers Will Look to Acquire Dwight AND CP3

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:53 am

Doberman wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Get rid of Fish? That's foolish. Fisher is still a capable player, just not a viable 30 minutes starter.


Fisher isn't capable of anything on the court anymore.


That's simply not true. He's actually very capable of being a solid role player still. Hell he could even be with the starting unit and play 20 minutes a game. His three point % was still 39.6 last season and he averaged 1.2 steals per game (same as Kobe). He's still the best cool headed leader on the team and very much capable of playing the game.

In fact his averages in the playoffs were 41.2% from deep and 3.6 assists per game (good for second on the team behind Pau).

The guy is still capable of playing, just not the minutes he's been playing.
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