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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby lakersyunowin on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:42 pm

dwight's a bit of a free spirit. when the mojo around the team is this soul-sucking, it'll be hard for him to play well. the man appears to be fueled by joy
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby GoldenKnight on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:52 pm

fkmikebrown wrote:dwight's a bit of a free spirit. when the mojo around the team is this soul-sucking, it'll be hard for him to play well. the man appears to be fueled by joy


Perhaps he should quit being filled by joy because last time I checked a large man who played in L.A won 3 rings fueled by Diesel :man9:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby lakersyunowin on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:35 pm

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fkmikebrown wrote:dwight's a bit of a free spirit. when the mojo around the team is this soul-sucking, it'll be hard for him to play well. the man appears to be fueled by joy


Perhaps he should quit being filled by joy because last time I checked a large man who played in L.A won 3 rings fueled by Diesel :man9:


well what i was getting at was that our last hope is that the return of nash might bring joy back to the court. :man12:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:44 pm

I feel bad for both Dwight and Kobe. They're basically a two man wrecking crew. As Chuck would say this Lakers team is Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard, and a bunch of Tito Jackson's.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:07 am

There were a couple of troubling statements from Dwight after the game ...
1. "On the offensive end, we got to move the ball and share it."

What does it mean? He's not happy with Kobe getting 24 shots while he only got 11.

2. "Is my role clear cut? We’ll see."

What does it mean? Pretty ominous way to say that he doesn't have confidence in how he's being implemented so far.

3. "We got to make it work. We got two guys that can score on the block. We got to use them. You got to make it work."

What does it mean? He wants Mike D'Antoni to cater his offense to fit him and Pau Gasol, not for him and Pau to cater how they play to D'Antoni's offense. about an hour ago


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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby l__o on Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:43 am

If Howard isn't the Lakers now, or be honest, Howard or D Cousins has a better potential ?

LBJ being criticized for relying on his athleticism for years, but how abt Howard?

And I wonder when is the Dream stuff beside the shoulder fake and go left hand
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby themasterphil on Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:50 am

he is not the best C in the league PERIOD....he doesnt have any 1on1 game, if he scores, he dunks and you cant be the best C in the league without any 1on1 game, no chance and he also have a lots of problems in defense so hard days for "superman". I would say its only one superman, supershaq
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby MC on Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:24 am

Themasterphil............... and how does that happen exactly? how does a center who is not being fed the ball in the block suppose to be effective? and just 11 touches a game? please............

the problem is the coach here........... he's a PG dominant coach with a roster minus Nash that is power ball, low post dominant roster wise....... only a moron force feeds his system regardless of personnel and Pringles my friend is just that........... just talk to any Knicks fan or a fan of a team where MDA was coach and Nash was not his PG lol.

To blame this on Howard at this point would be the equivalent of biting your nose to spite your face.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby therealdeal on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:07 am

themasterphil wrote:he is not the best C in the league PERIOD....he doesnt have any 1on1 game, if he scores, he dunks and you cant be the best C in the league without any 1on1 game, no chance and he also have a lots of problems in defense so hard days for "superman". I would say its only one superman, supershaq

What in the world are you talking about? He's EASILY the best Center in the league. He's shown us that he can use his speed and quick feet to get around almost any Center in the league, and he creates foul trouble opportunities all game long if he's given the ball enough.

No one on one game?... What does that have to do with anything in a team game? And how many Centers in the league do you think have a BETTER one on one game anyway?

He's got a lot of problems on defense... yeah he does. Like a defensive scheme that sucks and a team full of people who don't even try on that end of the floor. He himself has been a terrific defender both in isolation situations and as a helper.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby khmrP on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:11 am

l__o wrote:If Howard isn't the Lakers now, or be honest, Howard or D Cousins has a better potential ?

LBJ being criticized for relying on his athleticism for years, but how abt Howard?

And I wonder when is the Dream stuff beside the shoulder fake and go left hand


you mean nut punching Cousins? :man10: guy is a moron, he's been suspended 3x this year already for being stupid. Cousin is only better offensively with his jump shooting abilities but overall IQ and lack of maturity nullifies his potential because as this stage in his career you'd think he get better with these aspects of his life/game but it hasn't he's the 2nd coming of Rasheed Wallace.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:48 am

l__o wrote:If Howard isn't the Lakers now, or be honest, Howard or D Cousins has a better potential ?

LBJ being criticized for relying on his athleticism for years, but how abt Howard?

And I wonder when is the Dream stuff beside the shoulder fake and go left hand


Is this for real?.... Howard or Cousins?! :man3:

Cousins attitude alone is a reason no team will ever be able to count on him..... As far as a skill set he has some skill but he doesn't even care about the defensive end of the floor and is among the most overrated on the offensive end. Put him on a team without shooters and guys that can breakdown the defense and he's not nearly as good as most think.

While Howard relies more on his athleticism than he could IMO.... he is still a very skilled big man that has proven that he can be part of great teams..... Cousins is more interested in flashing signs and trash talking while shooting 20 footers than he is in actually becoming a leader or even a good follower.....

Howard is such a superior overall player it's not even debatable IMHO.....
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:04 pm

Cousins :man10:

Back to D12 , it's scary how the back pbs have limited his mobility and lateral quickness ... he used to blitz the PNR and do a great a job at staying with the ball handler ... now he's just backing off and doesn't react/move his feet as quick as he used to be , not even close
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:09 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:Cousins :man10:

Back to D12 , it's scary how the back pbs have limited his mobility and lateral quickness ... he used to blitz the PNR and do a great a job at staying with the ball handler ... now he's just backing off and doesn't react/move his feet as quick as he used to be , not even close


Actually that may not be related to the back issues as much as you may think..... after 20+ games of watching the lack of rotations behind him when he does that he may be trying to cover everyone because it doesn't seem as if anyone else is going to do it..... :man1:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:14 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
wcsoldier81 wrote:Cousins :man10:

Back to D12 , it's scary how the back pbs have limited his mobility and lateral quickness ... he used to blitz the PNR and do a great a job at staying with the ball handler ... now he's just backing off and doesn't react/move his feet as quick as he used to be , not even close


Actually that may not be related to the back issues as much as you may think..... after 20+ games of watching the lack of rotations behind him when he does that he may be trying to cover everyone because it doesn't seem as if anyone else is going to do it..... :man1:


I was thinking about that too ... we are wasting one of his great strenght if that's the case ... besides the SAS game , I haven't seen much of his usual impressive PNR D
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:36 pm

themasterphil wrote:he is not the best C in the league PERIOD....he doesnt have any 1on1 game, if he scores, he dunks and you cant be the best C in the league without any 1on1 game, no chance and he also have a lots of problems in defense so hard days for "superman". I would say its only one superman, supershaq

:man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10:

Dwight may not be the most skilled player, but he's still EASILY the best center in the game even at 80 percent or whatever he is right now.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby 432J on Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:38 pm

:man10:

people saying dwight isn't the best center in the league and saying cousins is better. who is the best center then? hibbert? if he could just improve his FT shooting a little and play with some more intensity no one will complain
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:08 pm

432J wrote::man10:

people saying dwight isn't the best center in the league and saying cousins is better. who is the best center then? hibbert? if he could just improve his FT shooting a little and play with some more intensity no one will complain

The only one who could even ever challenge Dwight is Bynum, but that's only if he ever gets healthy and stops acting like a 13 year old.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby themasterphil on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:40 pm

i was saying that he is not best C in this moment and he isnt....when he is 100% ready, yes he is the best, but in this moment he have the problems playing 1on1...and i dont think he is on 60%....he can say i am at 80 % but we can see thats not true, bc his problems on offense are big and his defense is not good at all....that 2 offensive boards last night show lots of things about this one, where he was in that particular moment...where??
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby Ras Algethi on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:52 pm

I actually think Dwight is over helping in some cases. Instead of flashing out or showing he over commits sometimes because he always goes for the block. Not saying our rotations aren't horrid or anything else but its a factor.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby thkthebest on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:53 pm

Tim Duncan could be argued as the best center in the league right now.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby therealdeal on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:59 pm

themasterphil wrote:i was saying that he is not best C in this moment and he isnt....when he is 100% ready, yes he is the best, but in this moment he have the problems playing 1on1...and i dont think he is on 60%....he can say i am at 80 % but we can see thats not true, bc his problems on offense are big and his defense is not good at all....that 2 offensive boards last night show lots of things about this one, where he was in that particular moment...where??

we've given you ample evidence that his defense and offense are fine. you're speaking without analyzing the truth behind your words.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby dak22 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:02 pm

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:
432J wrote::man10:

people saying dwight isn't the best center in the league and saying cousins is better. who is the best center then? hibbert? if he could just improve his FT shooting a little and play with some more intensity no one will complain

The only one who could even ever challenge Dwight is Bynum, but that's only if he ever gets healthy and stops acting like a 13 year old.


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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby abeer3 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:47 pm

i think even this version of dwight is the best c in the league (though if we were just talking right now, i'd go with varjeao, who's been beasting), and i think kobe's still the best sg. the rest of the team isn't very good with nash and pau on the shelf, and that's how you end up 5 games under .500.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby therealdeal on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:57 pm

abeer3 wrote:i think even this version of dwight is the best c in the league (though if we were just talking right now, i'd go with varjeao, who's been beasting), and i think kobe's still the best sg. the rest of the team isn't very good with nash and pau on the shelf, and that's how you end up 5 games under .500.

Yeah I mean the rest of the team is a bunch of good players AROUND the big four :man10:

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: Bresnahan article - pg765

Postby BicepKiss on Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:27 pm

Pretty sure hes been shooting his freethrows a couple inches back from the line and has really improved his foul shooting.
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