Darius Johnson Odom Discussion: Waived

These kinds of guys are very valuable off of the bench. Think Jason Terry, Ben Gordon, even Vinnie Johnson back in the day. Heck, even Mario Chalmers fits this mold. I think the guy is a very good pick up. I also saw that Seth Davis rated him as the number one second round steal of the draft.

diehard wrote:These kinds of guys are very valuable off of the bench. Think Jason Terry, Ben Gordon, even Vinnie Johnson back in the day. Heck, even Mario Chalmers fits this mold. I think the guy is a very good pick up. I also saw that Seth Davis rated him as the number one second round steal of the draft.

Good comparisons as an ideal highest upside possibility.

dj vitus wrote:I know why we drafted a Glock clone... because MB really, really, really dislikes Glock!

Yeah but he's not. Much stronger and reputedly a better defender to handle better the bigger and more physical guards which Glock can't. Which is mostly why Brown wouldn't play him. According to him. More explosive and athletic as well. I don't think Brown dislikes Glock, just too simple & narrow minded to find ways on a regular basis to give him some burn.

Just saw this list of some known players that went undrafted. So let's hear what a fool Mitch was for picking "Mr. Clean" and DJO over any of them. Haven't read yet and no knowledge of them myself.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the ... ncaab.html




Kevin Jones headlines list of eight best college players who went undrafted
By Jeff Eisenberg | The Dagger – 5 hours ago



West Virginia's Kevin Jones (Getty Images)
To appreciate how little stock NBA franchises sometimes put in a draft prospect's college production, consider this example for a moment.
West Virginia's Kevin Jones earned second-team All-American honors last season, scoring 19.9 points per game, grabbing 10.9 rebounds and shooting 50.9 percent from the field in the rugged Big East. That still wasn't enough to get him drafted, however, as NBA teams apparently found 60 guys they thought had greater potential.
The only good news for Jones is he's far from the only highly successful college player not to be selected in this year's draft. Here's a look at a list of the top college players who were not drafted Thursday night the same way Notre Dame's Ben Hansbrough, Kansas State's Jacob Pullen and Georgetown's Austin Freeman weren't last year:
1. Kevin Jones, F, Sr., West Virginia
Comment: The 6-foot-8 forward did everything possible as a senior to earn a second-round look, carrying an otherwise uninspiring West Virginia team to the NCAA tournament. Unfortunately for Jones, that apparently wasn't enough to change NBA scouts' opinion he's unlikely to thrive in the league as a result of a lack of size and outside shooting combined with a game that is decidedly below the rim
2. J'Covan Brown, G, Jr., Texas
Comment: It's already difficult for an undersized 6-foot-2 shooting guard to win over NBA scouts, but Brown did himself no favors at the pre-draft combine in Chicago. He had the highest body fat of any NBA prospect at 12.5 percent, not a great sign for a player whose shot selection and ability to get along with his teammates were already issues.
3. John Shurna, F, Sr., Northwestern
Comment: Shurna's phenomenal outside shooting evidently wasn't enough to outweigh the other deficiencies in his game. The 6-foot-9 senior shot 43.4 percent from 3-point range as a junior and 44.0 percent as a senior, but he rebounds poorly for someone of his size and he lacks the strength, athleticism or quickness most NBA forwards possess.
4. Jordan Taylor, G, Sr., Wisconsin
Comment: NBA scouts weren't sold on Taylor's ability to thrive at the next level when he was a preseason national player of the year candidate, so of course it didn't help his stock that his senior year was a bit underwhelming compared to the brilliance of his previous season. Taylor's shooting percentage and assist-to-turnover ratio dropped off as a senior and he still lacks prototypical size or ability to get to the rim for an NBA point guard.
5. Scott Machado, G, Sr., Iona
Comment: It's hard to believe there's not a place on an NBA bench for a point guard with Machado's court vision, but the Iona senior went undrafted despite averaging 13.6 points, 9.9 assists and 40.4 percent 3-point shooting last season. NBA teams are apparently doubtful that the flimsy 6-foot-2 has the explosive speed or athleticism typically needed to survive in the league at his size.
6. Terrell Stoglin, G, So., Maryland
Comment: If the NBA draft has taught us anything over the years, it's that teams believe there's no place in the league for an undersized shooting guard. The 6-foot-1 Stoglin averaged 21.6 points per game and reportedly outplayed several first-round prospects during workouts the past month, but he went undrafted because he lacks the vision and passing skills to play point guard and the size and wingspan to play off the ball.
7. Tu Holloway, G, Sr., Xavier
Comment: It's Holloway's size that likely prevented him from getting a second-round look. He followed up a brilliant junior campaign by averaging 17.5 points and 4.9 assists as a sophomore, but the NBA rarely has a place for a 5-11 combo guard who's more of a scorer than a facilitator, especially one who's outside shot remains inconsistent at best.
8. Drew Gordon, F, Sr., New Mexico
Comment: Why would the NBA not have a place for an explosive 6-foot-9 rebounding machine who averaged a double-double both his junior and senior seasons at New Mexico? That's surely what Gordon is wondering today. Questions about his character from his UCLA days may have played a role, as may his lack of a perimeter jumper or back-to-the-basket game.
Other college stars who went undrafted: William Buford (Ohio State), Jorge Gutierrez (Cal), Jason Clark (Georgetown), Casper Ware (Long Beach State), JaMychal Green (Alabama)

JUST-MING wrote:

Battle Tested20 wrote:Rated “Best Athlete” of the 2012 Draft Class

Doesn’t mean a damn thing if he can’t do it with a basketball in his hands.

I know that man. Just posting info, use it as you like.

Young guns him and Morris would be nice especially if Morris puts on some bulk where he could guard some two's and let djo guard 1's yell™

Center Court wrote:he definitely passes the eye test... reminds me of a cross between Lawson and D Wade. Let's see if he can get a roster spot at all. My guess is that he'll replace Morris as a third PG seeing as his skill set isn't ball dominant.

I was watching his video's thinking his game, body shape and court movements reminded me of Ron Ron crossed with D Wade. He's not the tallest guy, but he has a big body and can bang and bully people around like MWP/Ron can and can also manipulate his body on the ground and in the air in a very rough comparison with D Wade....

I really think there is something about DJO. I'm in no way getting my hopes up, but like he said himself, he's a player, he will just make plays. He might not be the tallest, skilled or even prettiest of players, but he just looks like he can ball. He may just prove to be somewhat of a steal at least as a bench player

reminds me of ty lawson, only bulkier

I just watched a little video on this guy and I think he may actually have a chance at being decent depending on his mental preparedness.

He's got athletic ability... he seems to shoot the ball pretty well and at least plays in the correct position/stance on defense.

Rooscooter wrote: he seems to shoot the ball pretty well and at least plays in the correct position/stance on defense.

It's sad when those two basic attributes already put him ahead of current players on our roster.

Doc Brown wrote:

Rooscooter wrote: he seems to shoot the ball pretty well and at least plays in the correct position/stance on defense.

It's sad when those two basic attributes already put him ahead of current players on our roster.

Yes....... yes it is sir....

is He Related to Lamar Odom???

lakersStan24 wrote:is He Related to Lamar Odom???

He's related to Darius Morris,Magic Johnson and Lamar Odom.

Sideways wrote:

lakersStan24 wrote:is He Related to Lamar Odom???

He's related to Darius Morris,Magic Johnson and Lamar Odom.

As for the list above... there's a few reasons these guys were passed over. The run on euro-stashes in the second took a bunch of slots, but mostly, these guys were pushed and pulled at the combines enough to be seen as not worth a pick. Some will definitely get a look and make it.
Drew Gordon is very solid and he'd be a good look for LA if JHill walks.

Phil XI wrote:

Sideways wrote:

lakersStan24 wrote:is He Related to Lamar Odom???

He's related to Darius Morris,Magic Johnson and Lamar Odom.

is He or isn't He??? lol u are confusing Me...

Sideways wrote:

lakersStan24 wrote:is He Related to Lamar Odom???

He's related to Darius Morris,Magic Johnson and Lamar Odom.

lol

lakersStan24 wrote:

Sideways wrote:

lakersStan24 wrote:is He Related to Lamar Odom???

He's related to Darius Morris,Magic Johnson and Lamar Odom.

is He or isn't He??? lol u are confusing Me...

Well I've seen that Darius Morris and him aren't blood brothers, but they are like 4th or 5th cousins through marriage.

He's related to Magic by DJO's brother's sisters aunt is related to Magic, so you can make a case they are related in some weird way.

Lamar and Him are step-brothers. See DJO's mom was married to former pitcher Randy Johnson. They adopted DJO, he took the last name Johnson, but before that DJO's mom was married to a cousin of Lamar with the last name Odom. DJO kept the last name Johnson and added it to the new Odom last name because he didn't want to catch any heat from Randy.

So yes, they are all related.

Wow Doc.

LOS ANGELES LAKERS | GRADE: C-
Round 1: None

Round 2: Darius Johnson-Odom (55, from Mavs), Robert Sacre (60)

Analysis: The Lakers bought a late second pick from the Mavs to grab Johnson-Odom, a super-tough guard who, if he were 3 inches taller, would have gone much higher in the draft. He can shoot and defend, but it remains to be seen whether his lack of height will hurt his success in the NBA.

Sacre is big, but in four years at Gonzaga, he didn't do a lot to scream "NBA player." Then again, Greg Stiemsma played minutes for an NBA playoff team this year.

Interesting....

If DJO can overcome the height issue, it seems as if we might have gotten a player that could have gone in the late 1st, early second. If he does we might have gotten some great value for him.

What hurt Glock was that he could shoot, but his defense wasn't up to par. DJO can play some D and he has the body type (aside from height) to have the strength to go up against bigger guards, something Glock lacked.

It will be good to see him play in summer league to see if we got a super Glock capable of spreading the floor and playing defense on the other end.

Oh and we got a C- for a draft grade. PJ3 or Quincy Miller would have give us an A or B.

^wheres that from? everywhere else ive seen the lakers get a B- to B+ grade.

CaCHooKa Man wrote:^wheres that from? everywhere else ive seen the lakers get a B- to B+ grade.

ESPN.

Chad Ford.

Predicted to make NBA All Rookie Second Team as SG

If he gets the minutes he deserves and carries his aggressive style over to the Lakers i think hes gunna be awesome. Mike Brown better give him a chance

I have no expectations whatsoever.