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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby karacha on Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:53 pm

Duhon can't even play the PG position, let alone the 2.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby Weezy on Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:56 pm

I don't believe even Mike Brown is that stupid.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby kray28 on Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:57 pm

Potato has already started effin up the team, I tell you.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby The Original 81 on Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:58 pm

Worthy had to be trolling, there's no way he could believe that.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby JGC on Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:31 pm

It really sounds to me that MB is just trying to use the competition factor to motivate Ebanks more than anything.

There is a fine line, especially with younger more inexperienced players, between having a clearly defined role and getting too comfortable.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:09 pm

Weezy wrote:
lakerswiz wrote:And again. What is it - the second preseason game tonight? And we're pissed he doesn't have a set bench rotation? :man10:

This guy will never win here.


The article says Brown says anyone outside the starting lineup is interchangeable, not just in preseason, in general. I don't care what he does in preseason, but when real games start, the ever changing bench lineups are not a good thing IMO. Last year it messed with some guys game if you ask me, McRoberts and Ebanks to name a few, as for the 2 and the 3 being the same, I disagree, at least when it comes to the difference between Meeks and Ebanks. Ebanks is not a 2 just like Ron is not a 2, it's out of position for them, they aren't guards they're forwards.


+1 Hell yeah! This is exactly the opposite of what Phil would do with rotations. Brown having nothing set during regular season simply does nothing but keep the bench from being the best it can be with execution and "confidence". These guys go in thinking they are on a short leash every frickin game. Never anything earned in the practices they can count on. If it was good for the best coach ever with managing a "talented" squad, then Potato Head doing the opposite has to be not maximizing the squad's talent. Brown REMAINS the biggest question mark this team has this season.

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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:14 pm

At the risk of starting another brew-ha-ha with Real....... WTH.... Ebanks can barely play the SF position at the "D" league level and even then not consistently.... and he's going to give Kobe relief at the 2?.... I hope to god that this is a ploy to build a fire under Meeks to perform in Training Camp and not a real strategy.....
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby karacha on Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:19 pm

Ebanks is not very good.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:28 pm

what i wouldn't give to swap him for ariza right now
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:41 pm

You know a young player isn't good when you don't see any improvment in his game after 2 seasons in this league
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby noobiew on Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:05 am

Hell NO ! Potatohead please don't mess this up ! :disagree:

Ebanks is our backup to Metta
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby purp n gold on Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:23 am

Can't handle the rock, and playmaking/passing skills are not Ebanks' strong suit. We have more than enough depth with CDR and Meeks at the 2. Don't do it Mike!!!

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The Original 81 wrote:James Worthy and Dave Miller both don't believe Meeks will be the backup two guard. Worthy just said he felt like Duhon would be the backup. :freak2:


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If Blake/Duhon trot out together, I'll never make fun of Brown again because it would be awful to make fun of the mentally challenged.


ugh.... I'm gonna be sick. DON'T DO IT MIKE!!!
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby Alcindor on Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:52 am

Please don't play Blake and Duhon together.

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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby Scnottaken on Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:36 am

Doc Brown wrote:
The Original 81 wrote:James Worthy and Dave Miller both don't believe Meeks will be the backup two guard. Worthy just said he felt like Duhon would be the backup. :freak2:


:man10:

If Blake/Duhon trot out together, I'll never make fun of Brown again because it would be awful to make fun of the mentally challenged.

Hell he'd probably put Goudelock out as the 1, Blake at the 2, Duhon at SF and Morris as the PF.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby ben_ready on Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:09 am

I swear mike brown and Steve blake are an bizarro ebony and ivory. We need to dump them along with duhon now. They so terrible Luke Walton laughs at their work yell™
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby KB24 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:59 am

I would prefer Meeks with a consistent role and EBanks with a consistent role as backup SG and backup SF...

the thing that gives me the most headaches is Tawn at the SF spot...he is 37 and he was even too slow to defend the 3 10 years ago...

potatoe head at it again.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby revgen on Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:53 am

While Ebanks has trouble guarding some SF's like Anthony and Lebron, he's still a SF. He's 6'9 for crying out loud. He's not a shooting guard.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby nthydro on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:10 am

revgen wrote:While Ebanks has trouble guarding some SF's like Anthony and Lebron, he's still a SF. He's 6'9 for crying out loud. He's not a shooting guard.


I'm pretty sure everyone in the league had problems guarding them
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby nthydro on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:16 am

KB24 wrote:I would prefer Meeks with a consistent role and EBanks with a consistent role as backup SG and backup SF...

the thing that gives me the most headaches is Tawn at the SF spot...he is 37 and he was even too slow to defend the 3 10 years ago...

potatoe head at it again.


Jamison at the 3 doesn't bother me as much as Ebanks at the 2. He was playing Barnes at the 2 last year too. :man3:
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby revgen on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:22 am

lakerswiz wrote:
revgen wrote:While Ebanks has trouble guarding some SF's like Anthony and Lebron, he's still a SF. He's 6'9 for crying out loud. He's not a shooting guard.

Ebanks has played in one game against Carmelo (12 minutes) and has literally never played against LeBron. :man10:


And in the one game he played against Melo, Melo steamrolled him out of the way. He'd have the same problem guarding Lebron too. The coaching staff has been trying to get him to put on more muscle ever since he arrived here.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby kray28 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:26 am

I think it's time to cut our losses with Ebanks. This guy can't do basic stuff like finish a layup. He's tentative and playing scared out there.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby nthydro on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:29 am

lakerswiz wrote:
revgen wrote:While Ebanks has trouble guarding some SF's like Anthony and Lebron, he's still a SF. He's 6'9 for crying out loud. He's not a shooting guard.

Ebanks has played in one game against Carmelo (12 minutes) and has literally never played against LeBron. :man10:


I guess he can claim LeBron has yet to score on him then :man10:
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby revgen on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:52 am

lakerswiz wrote:
revgen wrote:
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revgen wrote:While Ebanks has trouble guarding some SF's like Anthony and Lebron, he's still a SF. He's 6'9 for crying out loud. He's not a shooting guard.

Ebanks has played in one game against Carmelo (12 minutes) and has literally never played against LeBron. :man10:


And in the one game he played against Melo, Melo steamrolled him out of the way. He'd have the same problem guarding Lebron too. The coaching staff has been trying to get him to put on more muscle ever since he arrived here.

It's Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James. Everyone has the same problem guarding them.

Look at what Ebanks did to Kevin Durant in the 24 minutes they played against each other on April 22nd. 30 shots to get 31 points. Kevin Durant shot 30% from the field that game while Ebanks was in the game.


1) Not Metta World Peace. Not Michael Pietrus. Guys with stronger bodies who can hold their own physically with those players. Like I said before, Devin is 6'9. If he committed himself in the weight room, he'd be able to have the physique to better challenge those players without being steamrolled out of the way.

2) Kevin Durant, like Ebanks, still looks like he came out of high school. Unless Ebanks is able to acquire an offensive game good enough to become the leading scorer in the NBA like KD, he needs to start working in other areas. The weight room would be a nice start.
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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby last stand on Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:33 am

Doc Brown wrote:Ebanks at the 2, Jamison at the 3, Hill at the 4 huh?

As if Mike didn't notice that when Jamison went in at the 3 last game, GS went straight ISO at him two times in a row from the top of the key. I remember they scored once....

What do you think OKC/Miami will do with that?


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Re: Devin Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup?

Postby revgen on Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:52 am

lakerswiz wrote:Carmelo scored twice in 12 minutes on Ebanks. That's steamrolling him out of the way? One layup and one pull up three pointer? Steamrolling him out of the way?

You mention two guys. (Pietrus?!) Out of the 350 in the NBA. And you want to put that same pressure on Ebanks? A third year player that hasn't even played enough minutes to equal a month of playing time for most NBA stars and you want to extend that same expected level of play? That seemingly one one guy in the league really has?

You're basing your opinion of Ebanks on conjecture right now. He hasn't played against Anthony enough, never played against LeBron and saying that he wouldn't be able to guard him based on the fact that you don't think he's strong enough is just silly. Where is the proof of this. Show me the examples of him getting steamrolled by a bigger guard on the perimeter.

And Mickael Pietrus? lol. Anthony only averaged 44 points per 36 minutes against him this season on 56% shooting. And he drew 4.1 fouls on him in 36 minutes. And Pietrus + James didn't play this year.

And I don't care what Kevin Durant looks like. That adds nothing to the argument. In fact, just proves the point even further. Kevin Durant is probably half as strong as Ebanks right now and he's still out there tearing up the likes of LeBron, DWade, Carmelo and World Peace - those guys that are strong and don't get steamrolled out of the way. And yet Ebanks was able to shut down his shooting?


You're obviously looking at the statsheet. Yes, he streamrolled Devin out of the way on the plays in which he scored on him. Using his physical strength to boot him out of the way. If you want to believe that Devin is strong enough to handle LBJ or Melo, then so be it.

Pietrus' lack of speed hurts him more against LBJ and Melo more than his strength does. So he's often beat off the dribble as opposed being steamrolled like Devin does.

Lebron, Dwade, and Melo aren't exactly standout individual defenders. So I'm not sure what your point is. MWP has also had success guarding KD. Using his physical strength to intimidate him. That's why OKC often sets multiple screens (often illegal) to get MWP off of Durant. If Durant ever did go to the gym and improve his physique and add a postgame to his repertoire, he'd be almost unstoppable.
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