lakerswiz wrote:Carmelo scored twice in 12 minutes on Ebanks. That's steamrolling him out of the way? One layup and one pull up three pointer? Steamrolling him out of the way?
You mention two guys. (Pietrus?!) Out of the 350 in the NBA. And you want to put that same pressure on Ebanks? A third year player that hasn't even played enough minutes to equal a month of playing time for most NBA stars and you want to extend that same expected level of play? That seemingly one one guy in the league really has?
You're basing your opinion of Ebanks on conjecture right now. He hasn't played against Anthony enough, never played against LeBron and saying that he wouldn't be able to guard him based on the fact that you don't think he's strong enough is just silly. Where is the proof of this. Show me the examples of him getting steamrolled by a bigger guard on the perimeter.
And Mickael Pietrus? lol. Anthony only averaged 44 points per 36 minutes against him this season on 56% shooting. And he drew 4.1 fouls on him in 36 minutes. And Pietrus + James didn't play this year.
And I don't care what Kevin Durant looks like. That adds nothing to the argument. In fact, just proves the point even further. Kevin Durant is probably half as strong as Ebanks right now and he's still out there tearing up the likes of LeBron, DWade, Carmelo and World Peace - those guys that are strong and don't get steamrolled out of the way. And yet Ebanks was able to shut down his shooting?
lakerswiz wrote:therealdeal wrote:^ Why is that funny?
Because everyone is still seemingly under the impression that the 2/3 have a difference. The players themselves said it's the same thing, lol. That Brown will throw out the next 3 guys off the bench at the same time, which based by the stats from last year only happened for 10% of the season, doesn't included garbage time, and was about the 20th most popular lineup the team had.
This isn't going to be a five for five swap. One player comes off the bench. Then the next. Then the quarter ends. Two original starters are back in. One or two from the 1st quarter stay in. One of the bench guys stays in the game and the other is subbed for the 8th man.
The fact that everyone's pissed about Meeks and Ebanks when Brown said himself Meeks is ahead of him right now and Ebanks is trying to get to the point where he takes the spot. And saying he's open to the idea of it? We get this response from him saying that he's simply open to the idea of playing Ebanks at the 2?
And the whole idea that having a set lineup is going to be possible or that it's going to magically fix the issues we had last year (which are not relevant to this team anymore). This is especially hilarious to me because everyone seems to think Phil wasn't the same way. That he had some 100% for sure set line up 5 months into the future season. Then you go back and realize we played Shannon, Farmar, Odom, Powell, DJ and Sasha all at different spots coming off the bench. It's like everyone forgets that he changed the starting point guard just as the playoffs were starting.
Meeks started last night. Over Ebanks. That's the most part of the sky that is falling.
Doc Brown wrote:A discussion thread wouldn't be complete without JGC bringing up Kobe only to bring him down.
jlkr wrote:Seems to me like Meeks could shut down the talk of other backup 2's if he was having a better training camp...
Punk-101 wrote:If Ebanks truly earns the spot over Meeks it will mean that he is a better 3pt shooter and a better ball handler. If he really is, fine give him the spot over Meeks. I'm HIGLY skeptical.
If Ebanks became a better Sg than Meeks over the summer, fine. Play CDR at the backup 3, Jamison at the 4, and Hill at the 5.
The Rock wrote:Good shooting performance but really he hasnt shown great range over the last 2 years for me to believe hes gonna be a legit reliable outside shooter. Today seemed like a fluke. However i like his hustle, defense and activity level. Thats what we need
therealdeal wrote:Where's Weezy and Roos at?? I told you guys my boy was going to look good this season!
he says after 5 pre-season games.
Kobe on Ebanks to @LAIreland: "You saw an improved player. He's been shooting the ball well. Can put the ball on the floor, get to the rim."
Weezy wrote:therealdeal wrote:Where's Weezy and Roos at?? I told you guys my boy was going to look good this season!
he says after 5 pre-season games.
I'm right here. He looks like our most consistent bench player this preseason, I really hope he keeps it up at least somewhat and Potato Head doesn't mess with his minutes like last season. Oh an I never had a problem with Ebanks, just Ebanks at the 2, I want him as Metta's backup, not Kobe's, it was working tonight.