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Postby The Laker Link on Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:22 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:
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wcsoldier81 wrote:Well this is the huge pb I see going forward ... a young star won't come here to play 2nd fiddle to an old and stubborn Kobe ...

Kobe has done a LOT for our franchise but I will move on from him after this upcoming season .... the "me 1st " attitude ( whether it's salary wise or on the floor ) will get us stucked in mediocrity .


It's a problem for the young stars that we really don't need....... Young stars joined in Miami and shared the spotlight just fine...... The result are working out fairly well.

Clowns like Howard are the real "me first" stubborn players here.... Not the 17 year vet who's probably the best player in the history of the best franchise in the history of the league.


No doubt about Howard but the pb goes way beyond him .... you think Lebron or KD would come here to play 2nd fiddle to a 17th year veteran Kobe while they are now both better players ?


Would Kobe treat them the same way as Dwight or would he quickly hand the torch over to them if they came to LA? Kobe didn't think Dwight was ready, I bet he wouldn't do that to Durant or LeBron. Hell, he probably wouldn't do it to Melo either....probably hand it straight over and be the second fiddle.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby Forklift on Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:22 am

the stars of this age are so spoiled...
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby adamkingadam on Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:24 am

Hi Guys and Gals! Longtime follower, first time poster! Love this place! Glad to see Dwight is gone as well! We don't need that cantankerous attitude on the team. All you have to do is look at the two free throws Kobe shot on a torn achillies to know the difference between these two men. I use the word "man" loosely when it comes to Dwight Howard..
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby Lakerman JSJ on Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:31 am

adamkingadam wrote:Hi Guys and Gals! Longtime follower, first time poster! Love this place! Glad to see Dwight is gone as well! We don't need that cantankerous attitude on the team. All you have to do is look at the two free throws Kobe shot on a torn achillies to know the difference between these two men. I use the word "man" loosely when it comes to Dwight Howard.


Welcome. :beer:

Excellent first post. Please come back and post often.

Dwight's a mental midget. Anyone remember the 2 FT's he shot toward the end of Game 4 when the Magic were up 3? He only needed one of them to ice the game for his team and predictably bricked both, which led to D-Fish hitting the clutch 3 that ultimately forced OT and gave us a win and full control of the series.

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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby The Laker Link on Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:37 am

wallangong wrote:^ notice how everyone is glad Dwight left? any young star who doesn't understand that the torch needs to be earned doesn't belong here.


Work for it or be named Melo, LeBron, or Durant and you might get it almost immediately.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby borri on Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:08 pm

nameant wrote:Dwight, you are not a #1 guy....you will never win a title as the clear cut best player on your team.


Rick Fox said the same thing on the Max and Marcellus show this year when he grilled this coward for over 20 straight minutes.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby slimjim on Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:12 pm

Honestly... I truly believe Kobe gave up on Dwight before he even decided on Houston

Kobe saying he could see himself playing another 2-3 is something he knew Dwight did not want to hear.

and given the timing of it, I think this was kobe's way of saying... You are not the Lakers future... No way am I handing the keys to you. You don't deserve it.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby JSM on Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:42 pm

What doesn't make sense to me is that Dwight complained Kobe and Nash didn't go to bat for him when he came back early from injury. Then he is going to go suggest that the Lakers cut ties with Kobe. You want their full support only to push them off the cliff months later?

Only thing Dwight got right was that Phil should've been coach.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby Weezy on Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:50 pm

I have to laugh a little looking back at this season and how some here actually took Dwight's side in all this and said Kobe wasn't doing enough to keep him happy or wasn't "playing the right way". IMO Kobe just did another great thing for the franchise, yet another favor to a franchise he's carried for a decade now. He talked about Dwight like what he is, a much more talented Tyson Chandler type. He didn't bend over backwards to give him whatever he wanted but instead played how he always has and most likely always will, not pretending it was going to be different with Dwight here in order to trick him into staying. He challenged him to be great if he wanted to stay here, and showed us Dwight's true colors as he bolted when faced with that challenge. You can say Kobe drove Dwight away, and while that is partly true, I'll choose to thank Kobe for that, I never saw Dwight as the guy to take over after Kobe, unless our goal was to be mediocre and simply make the playoffs year after year anyway.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby adamkingadam on Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:51 pm

JSM wrote:What doesn't make sense to me is that Dwight complained Kobe and Nash didn't go to bat for him when he came back early from injury. Then he is going to go suggest that the Lakers cut ties with Kobe. You want their full support only to push them off the cliff months later?

Only thing Dwight got right was that Phil should've been coach.


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Phil once described Kobe as "uncoachable".. Clearly that was said in Jest but I am beginning to wonder if Dwight is the uncoachable one. From SVG to Dantoni, Dwight has had issues with his coaches throughout his career, even though both have run pick and roll offenses (or have tried to) that have been of the most success to Dwight so far. When Kevin Mchale realizes that he cannot make Dwight the focal point of the offense due to his lack of low post moves and poor free throw percentage, Dwight is going to have the same tension with Mchale as he has had with his previous coaches. It's Dwight's way or the Highway! I'm just glad that highway is not the 405 anymore!
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:18 pm

^ Agreed.

It's great to know all of these things now... I wish I'd known them earlier. I'd never have supported bringing him back had we been privy to these... behaviors.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby kray28 on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:20 pm

Yeah, um Kobe wasn't and isn't going to get amnestied.

Dwight has gotten the eff outta here, and taken his el retardo camp with him.
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Postby Shadow on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:22 pm

:man10: :man10: You serious Dwight? :man10:
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:27 pm

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adamkingadam wrote:Hi Guys and Gals! Longtime follower, first time poster! Love this place! Glad to see Dwight is gone as well! We don't need that cantankerous attitude on the team. All you have to do is look at the two free throws Kobe shot on a torn achillies to know the difference between these two men. I use the word "man" loosely when it comes to Dwight Howard.


Welcome. :beer:

Excellent first post. Please come back and post often.

Dwight's a mental midget. Anyone remember the 2 FT's he shot toward the end of Game 4 when the Magic were up 3? He only needed one of them to ice the game for his team and predictably bricked both, which led to D-Fish hitting the clutch 3 that ultimately forced OT and gave us a win and full control of the series.

Later, loser. :wave:



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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:37 pm

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kblo247 wrote:Then Mitch and Jim bring him into the meeting, and basically say tell him Dwight.

Kinda like the players meeting when he bad mouthed him and the Lakers and Kobe say talk to his face, and Dwight said nothing. Or the all star week where he was said to be talking about him and then wouldn't say anything when Kobe or Melo was around according to Stephen A Smith

He wanted the Lakers to pull a SVG, without putting any work in to prove his loyalty. Kobe put work, outplayed him last year. Kobe put work more so than Shaq over time, more than Eddie and Nick which is why la stuck with him. Its a weird dynamic that went through thus team with Dwight.

Is not just Kobe. You have Pau pissed off and not even wishing him well. You have Nash saying he didn't want to be here or but in. You have Metta saying chemistry just improved when Dwight chose Houston and that they would contend without him, and then Kobe and Pau both tweeting support to Metta when the amnesty news hit. You have former lakers being called back in talking about we love LA. Legends roasting Dwight.

Lets all just be blunt. Kobe carried your punk *** through your injury, willing this team to wins and over 500 in the west, third best record in all the league the second half of the season. Dude sacrificed his body for a selfish prick like you. He was the only Laker healthy through the whole year; shouldering more and more of the load each time a player went down.

He killed his body playing near 48 minutes a night in march and april to make the playoffs. He pushed so hard in a game he had no business being in against golden state to make the playoffs (after going down 3 times earlier in that game). Hit clutch free throws in the fourth with a torn Achilles to give the Lakers a chance at the playoffs.

Insert Ice Cube video.

It all comes back to why the **** didn't Dwight opt out if he knew he risked being where he didn't want to be, which was anywhere but Brooklyn? And why the **** didn't he man up and outplay Kobe, put the work in, and stake his claim to show why he should be seen as the star let alone equal? Good riddance, I'd go to war with fat Shaq, Soft Pau, or washed up mental Odom any day.


Dwight needs to learn theirs level to this ****, and he wasnt on Kobe's level last year or in his career. He was a damn disgrace to the jersey and the names it represents front and back. Kobe didnt everything he has done, play on knees that needed surgery three times, with torn labrums, broken ribs, busted hands, an ankle that needed surgery to pass the keys to someone like Dwight. Shaq didnt kick every centers a** to matchup the legacy of Wilt, Kareem, and Mikan for someone like Dwight to be the guy. Worthy, Cooper, Scott, Horry, Fisher, Shaw, Fox, Odom, Pau, Goodrich, West, Wilkes, Rambis, Green, and guys like them ... Men like them, Dr Buss, Phil, and Riley didnt bleed, sweat, lose countless hours of sleep, and climb the mountain to give him the god damn torch. You want the **** torch, the **** statue, your name on that god damn wall, and to be remembered forever as a Laker great and champion you earn it, you take it, and you bust your a** for it. What a **** coward



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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby gcclaker on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:41 pm

^I remember that like it was yesterday. Howard went up to flush it and 24 took him down. Now, how will the rest of the media spin this latest blurb? Will they portray him as a petulant, entitled brat that he is? I'm looking forward to how Team Howard plays this off.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby Juronimo on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:42 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:Nah, Dwight is done as a Laker. I can't even call him a Laker.

I accepted his inability to hit free throws, his lack of post up game, hell, him smiling after losing.

But based on his decision and the facts surrounding his decision I feel makes him dishonorable and a coward.

It sickens me that I have his jersey. I want to rip the letters off to put Divac on there.


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Dwight could have been a Laker legend but he'll be remembered as being more of a rich man's Kwame Brown with a bad attitude more than anything. At first I was bummed that he left, even though I knew he'd leave and his body language was always poor.

After reading all of this, I'm glad he's gone. Asking the FO to amnesty Kobe? That is so beyond bizarre and disrespectful I have a hard time believing he actually did that. What nerve.
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Postby Doc Brown on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:43 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
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adamkingadam wrote:Hi Guys and Gals! Longtime follower, first time poster! Love this place! Glad to see Dwight is gone as well! We don't need that cantankerous attitude on the team. All you have to do is look at the two free throws Kobe shot on a torn achillies to know the difference between these two men. I use the word "man" loosely when it comes to Dwight Howard.


Welcome. :beer:

Excellent first post. Please come back and post often.

Dwight's a mental midget. Anyone remember the 2 FT's he shot toward the end of Game 4 when the Magic were up 3? He only needed one of them to ice the game for his team and predictably bricked both, which led to D-Fish hitting the clutch 3 that ultimately forced OT and gave us a win and full control of the series.

Later, loser. :wave:



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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby kray28 on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:46 pm

Look at how he got schooled by a geriatric Duncan in the first round this year. With Kobe out of the picture...it was his team and his time to seize the day. Game 4 was the lasting memory....also his last game in a Laker uniform, and he went out/fouled out like a punk...bailing on his teammates.

Kobe did really sacrifice everything he had to give to get them to the playoffs....and watch Dwight squander it, with half-hearted, disinterested effort was just pathetic. After Game 4, I basically told myself I wanted him gone, and I was pretty sure he was gone too.

That's why the news of his departure barely registered with me. All I felt was disgust at the wasted time and opportunity, and the damage to the franchise because of this moron. The truth simply is that the sooner he was outta here...the better. It was catching the cancer and hitting it with chemo before it metastasized.

Good riddance.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:56 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
odom1year wrote:No surprise at all. The only reason for him not resigning with Lakers is KOBE. He wants to be the man, he wants to shoot the ball and wants the most spotlight. Every young star coming to LA has the same aim. I've said many times that Kobe needs to pass the torch at this stage. He needs another superstar to win and needs to save energy for playoffs.

LMAO. I was wondering if you were going to come in with that "pass the torch" crap. Come on man I know it is hard to admit you were wrong but damn. Kobe didn't need to pass the torch (like many of us said) to the boy child Dwight. I can give you one thing, you are consistent. lol


odom1year. You didn't. :man10: You really came in here to say that after all that has come down??? :man10: :man10: :man10: Wow this is like OJ taking the stand in his original murder trial and the prosecutors having at him. Not that it would have made any difference but at least they got him in civil court when he did.

For you to still maintain that this immature, entitled-for-reasons-unknown-except-in-his-own-head, CLOWN .... "deserved" to be the FACE and cornerstone of our franchise for the next 5 years, and that it really is Kobe's fault this didn't work??? :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10:

Definition of a troll like statement. IMHO.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby JSM on Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:39 pm

I guess Dwight got his answer today on whether or not the Lakers would amnesty Kobe.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby Tobias Funke on Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:00 pm

JSM wrote:What doesn't make sense to me is that Dwight complained Kobe and Nash didn't go to bat for him when he came back early from injury. Then he is going to go suggest that the Lakers cut ties with Kobe. You want their full support only to push them off the cliff months later?

Only thing Dwight got right was that Phil should've been coach.


He didn't even wait months to push anyone off a cliff. He was bad talking Kobe behind his back to teammates, the media, and even opponents all season for being too serious and not making him the focal point on offense.

How ****ed up in the head do you have to be to want the offense to run through you when you know you're far from 100% (and not shy to let everyone know). Even worse, the people who want to go to bat for you are the same people you're back stabbing at the same time.

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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby Congo Cash on Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:48 pm

A 17+ years LAL veteran getting amnestied, yeah that's not gonna happen... Good riddance...
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby odom1year on Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:00 pm

KBJelleyBean24 wrote:Lol what a clown, bring some offensive skill set and up your free throw percentage before you start to think you're as valuable as kobe to this franchise


Age is an issue. That's why I suggest it's the time for Kobe passing torch.
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Re: Dwight's camp wanted Kobe amestied

Postby odom1year on Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:25 pm

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puffyusaf#2 wrote:
odom1year wrote:No surprise at all. The only reason for him not resigning with Lakers is KOBE. He wants to be the man, he wants to shoot the ball and wants the most spotlight. Every young star coming to LA has the same aim. I've said many times that Kobe needs to pass the torch at this stage. He needs another superstar to win and needs to save energy for playoffs.

LMAO. I was wondering if you were going to come in with that "pass the torch" crap. Come on man I know it is hard to admit you were wrong but damn. Kobe didn't need to pass the torch (like many of us said) to the boy child Dwight. I can give you one thing, you are consistent. lol


odom1year. You didn't. :man10: You really came in here to say that after all that has come down??? :man10: :man10: :man10: Wow this is like OJ taking the stand in his original murder trial and the prosecutors having at him. Not that it would have made any difference but at least they got him in civil court when he did.

For you to still maintain that this immature, entitled-for-reasons-unknown-except-in-his-own-head, CLOWN .... "deserved" to be the FACE and cornerstone of our franchise for the next 5 years, and that it really is Kobe's fault this didn't work??? :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10:

Definition of a troll like statement. IMHO.


Just saying every young star wants to be the 1st option of the team. And at this stage, Kobe has to change his game style a bit. As we know our 17 years vet's game style, Lakers/Jim should sign Chandler type of center which should be more fit to Kobe. It's sad that D12 does not respect Kobe at all.
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