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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby scissors on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:17 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:So bascially

Clark
Nash
Kobe
Shaq
Fox have had a problem with Howard or ripped Howard like a solar flair.

isn't it obvious that this guy is trying to kill the Lakers franchise before he leaves as a FA? why not end the mess right now and trade the guy before the locker-room blows up any further? :man8:


Stop with the conspiracy theory. LOL.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby cthroatgtr on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:23 pm

432J wrote:dwight howard is a FRAUD

i don't understand how he was good in orlando and comes to LA and sucks. it has to be the injuries! he's breaking down and that's why he's played like complete crap this season. and who knows if he'll ever get back to 100%. the FO needs to sit down and consider the options, including trading him. because if he really is going to be bothered by these injuries for the rest of his career, now would be the only time they could get something in return for him


Dwight did it with athleticism... his fundamentals aren't great. With a slip in otherwordly athleticism his lack of fundamentals are exposed.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby Ras Algethi on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:25 pm

Rick fox is on point in that interview.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby Congo Cash on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:29 pm

Ya, Fox already said what we have been thinking/saying for ages... Dwight doesn't deserves more touches since he is not that great, unless you want more TOs, ~50% FTs, and fouls aka more losing...

8 years in the league and his progress as a player is barely noticeable... Rich man's version of Tyson Chandler, except he scores even w/o caring for touches, doesn't turn the ball over, and can actually hit his FTs...
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby Ice-Fire on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:32 pm

scissors wrote:Stop with the conspiracy theory. LOL.


I'm being realistic, nothing has come good out of this guy since he came here.

when a great role-player like Fox tells Howard he's a cancer then you know something is wrong with Howard.... Howard is disrespecting the great tradition of this franchise right now and it's sad.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby Ice-Fire on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:46 pm

Congo Cash wrote:8 years in the league and his progress as a player is barely noticeable... Rich man's version of Tyson Chandler, except he scores even w/o caring for touches, doesn't turn the ball over, and can actually hit his FTs...


I think Howard can easily be compared to Asik, both can't hit FT's... both are not reliable offensive weapons and both look nothing like superstars... and both of them are not worthy of being the #1 option.

Sad but true.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:48 pm

Asik is the number 1 option on his team?

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby XXIV on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:53 pm

^ If 10 PPG isn't first option worthy, I guess I don't know this game very well. :man12:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby scissors on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:53 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Asik is the number 1 option on his team?

Learn something new every day. :man11:


Sure he is. Why not? :man10:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby Armani on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:51 pm

Bynum's issues were never this big. Yeah, he randomly took a 3 once in a while, but it's not like he questioned the likes of Kobe. And now Nash, the ultimate team player. Haha, this guy is such a goddamn joke.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby Maluco Beleza on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:05 pm

Rick Fox telling it how it is. wow. D12 come on man you gotta be the best DEFENSIVE PLAYER
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby khmrP on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:17 pm

While I too don't like his attitude, I find it laughable those who call him a fraud. Let see how much of a fraud he is if/when we face him next yr with Pau or Hill trying to guard him, Im sure you'll still be laughing but not @ Howard lol.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby khmrP on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:21 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:
Congo Cash wrote:8 years in the league and his progress as a player is barely noticeable... Rich man's version of Tyson Chandler, except he scores even w/o caring for touches, doesn't turn the ball over, and can actually hit his FTs...


I think Howard can easily be compared to Asik, both can't hit FT's... both are not reliable offensive weapons and both look nothing like superstars... and both of them are not worthy of being the #1 option.

Sad but true.

Your player comparison are out of this world. ...professional scout lvl :jam2:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby 432J on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:22 pm

dwight is the last person that should be complaining about not getting touches, because when he does....

gets the ball down low
2 dribbles
misses left handed hook
OR
stripped

he has no fundamentals and like someone said earlier, with his injuries he has become exposed as the fraud he is
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby D.B. Cooper on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:39 pm

I missed it, when did the D12 vs Clark incident happen?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby JGC on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:41 pm

Ok so just curious. If you could do it all over again, and let's assume Drew would remain healthy, would you still trade Dwight for Drew?

I think the answer is a lot harder now than it was a few months ago.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:42 pm

432J wrote:dwight is the last person that should be complaining about not getting touches, because when he does....

gets the ball down low
2 dribbles
misses left handed hook
OR
stripped

he has no fundamentals and like someone said earlier, with his injuries he has become exposed as the fraud he is

He's having to make something happen in the post more often than he usually does. He's usually so much more physical/athletic than anyone under there that he can just throw it down or make the pass. We're getting 75% of Dwight but 100% of his ego & expectations. Of course he wants more touches. When his game is back up at a high level, he'll get them..
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby D.B. Cooper on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:47 pm

JGC wrote:Ok so just curious. If you could do it all over again, and let's assume Drew would remain healthy, would you still trade Dwight for Drew?

I think the answer is a lot harder now than it was a few months ago.

The biggest reason Bynum is not here is because of his glass knees.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby karacha on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:47 pm

JGC wrote:...and let's assume Drew would remain healthy...


And let's also assume Dwight never had a back surgery and is originally from Mars. :man1:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby John3:16 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:50 pm

D.B. Cooper wrote:I missed it, when did the D12 vs Clark incident happen?


Right after Howard / Nash. It appeared Clark was trying to get him to stop talking.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby Weezy on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:52 pm

JGC wrote:Ok so just curious. If you could do it all over again, and let's assume Drew would remain healthy, would you still trade Dwight for Drew?

I think the answer is a lot harder now than it was a few months ago.


If I had it to do over again, KNOWING that Drew would miss the entire season I probably wouldn't. No, Drew wouldn't have played, but Bynum would be expiring just like Dwight and only we wouldn't have had to deal with this circus. Possibly no hiring of 'Antoni, no delusional front office banking on Dwight as our future, hoping he'll re-sign for the max when he hardly seems worth it, though Pau probably still gets injured having to play with no Bynum so we'd be screwed just the same. The only thing we lose is we never get and discover Earl Clark. I'd probably avoid this circus and growing to really dislike Dwight and having to go through the frustration and disbelief that our FO thinks he's the guy to lead us into the future to championships if I had it to do over again. So I guess I'm saying I'd happily take neither Drew or Dwight.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby karacha on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:54 pm

^

Pau would probably go down sooner and we would not even discuss making the playoffs (potentially). And we'd probably let Clark go, and that would be a disaster of epic proportions.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby khmrP on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:56 pm

432J wrote:dwight is the last person that should be complaining about not getting touches, because when he does....

gets the ball down low
2 dribbles
misses left handed hook
OR
stripped

he has no fundamentals and like someone said earlier, with his injuries he has become exposed as the fraud he is


hopefully Mitch can rectify the problem and trade him for Zeller, hopefully his wand is powerful enough for it :jam2:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby GoldenKnight on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:57 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:
khrmP wrote:if your theory was sound then practically every single team in the league would be a viable trading partner, but its NOT! and doens't work that way, he holds the upper hand just like he did in Orl.


If he holds he upper hand, then my theory makes sense... especially since the CBA allows team's to do a S&T this summer which would be very valuable for the Lakers financial wise.


Sorry man but you have some of the worst ideas on this forum...
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: (p.863: Nash Frustrated w/Dwight)

Postby last stand on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:00 pm

JGC wrote:Ok so just curious. If you could do it all over again, and let's assume Drew would remain healthy, would you still trade Dwight for Drew?

I think the answer is a lot harder now than it was a few months ago.


drew fully healthy

vs

dwight fully healthy

isn't even a contest. so if we are going hypothetical, no i wouldn't take drew over dwight because if we can assume drew is healthy we can also assume dwight gets to be healthy
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