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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:24 pm

ESPN doing their usual stirring.

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby The Laker Link on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:24 pm

NeeJee wrote:I think the media is just blowing up all of these comments. I think the reason for Dwight's demeanor is just because he's tired of all this media garbage. He's probably just sick of every little comment being blown up into one huge story when they probably mean nothing at all. But he does have to understand that this is L.A. Everything is is blown up in L.A.


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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:26 pm

If he's afraid of damaging it again the go see a doctor!

Unless his labrum is still attached in some place, which is not what's been reported, then he literally cannot hurt it any more than it is. And if that's the case, he should sit out and let it heal.

But what's been reported is that he's got a full tear and if that's the case, then it can't get worse it'll just hurt.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby XXIV on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:27 pm

^ Exactly and if he's really worried about his future then he should just get the surgery done. That's the only way his shoulder will heal anyways.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:29 pm

BOSTON -- Dwight Howard is fed up and let it be known that he is tired of other people trying to assess the severity of his shoulder injury.

"I want to play," Howard said after participating in shootaround in advance of the Los Angeles Lakers games against the Boston Celtics on Thursday. "I mean, why wouldn't I want to play? But, at the same time, this is my career, this is my future, this is my life. I can't leave that up to anybody else because nobody else is going to take care of me. So, if people are pissed off that I don't play or if I do play, whatever it may be, so what? This is my career. If I go down, then what? Everybody's life is going to go on. I don't want to have another summer where I'm rehabbing and trying to get healthy again. I want to come back and have another great year. That's what I want to do."

Howard is considered a game-time decision after missing the last three games with a sore right shoulder from aggravating his torn labrum in the Lakers' 92-86 loss to the Phoenix Suns at the start of their current seven-game road trip.

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Kobe Bryant publicly challenged Howard to return, telling ESPNBoston.com's Jackie MacMullan on Wednesday, "We don't have time for (Howard's shoulder) to heal ... We need some urgency."

Howard dismissed Bryant's stance.

"That's his opinion, that's it," Howard said. "He's not a doctor, I'm not a doctor. That's his opinion."

Bryant said that his comments on Wednesday weren't meant to turn up the pressure on Howard in light of the news that Pau Gasol has a torn plantar fascia in his right foot.

"There's an urgency to be out there, but it's not at the cost of making his shoulder worse," Bryant said after shootaround. "I've always said if he was healthy enough to play and there was a situation where he wasn't going to make it any worse then he should be playing. There should be an urgency about that, but I don't think I said anything that was different (then he said before)."

Bryant wasn't the only one of Howard's teammates to clamor for the All-Star center's return, however.

"I think everyone has got to play through some pain in this league and I'm not sure where Dwight exactly with his (injury), but hopefully he's ready to come back soon," Steve Nash said. "I think it's inevitable he's going to feel some discomfort and pain."

Metta World Peace spoke up in support of Howard, citing how effective he has been while coming off offseason back surgery.

"He's doing great and (he is) a great teammate," World Peace said. "He's out there, he had a couple 20-20 games and is averaging 18 and 11 or something like that playing hurt coming off that back surgery. I would say he's a soldier and I'm not going to question his injury. He's hurt to me. We have to go out there and we have to hold it down for him."

Howard said that Gasol's injury has not sped up his timeline to return and added that the way he feels he mishandled his back injury last season in Orlando is shaping how he deals with his shoulder this year.

"I don't want that situation to happen again," Howard said. "Last year I wanted to prove and show people that I can play through injuries, but the back is something serious and I don't want that to happen again."

Howard was asked if he could see his shoulder injury becoming worse if he gets back on the court.

"Yes, (with) the way I play," Howard said. "The post is not an easy position. You're pushing guys (who weigh) 260-270 (pounds) and you have to use a lot of force to do that. If play tonight, we'll see how I feel later on. If I don't, we'll just have to move forward."

Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni said that the Lakers will likely go with a small starting lineup of Earl Clark at center and World Peace and Antawn Jamison at the forward spots if Howard cannot play against the Celtics.

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"If we just go out there and play team basketball, move bodies, help, hedge on screens, box out, sacrifice and at the end of the game it's just going to be a team game and there's five guys on the floor, so, I don't think we have positions," said World Peace, who could be asked to play some backup center along with rookie Robert Sacre. "Kobe could be switched off on the center. It's just five guys playing basketball at this point."

D'Antoni said the decision to whether to play or not ultimately rests with Howard.

"I think he's cleared (by the medical staff), but he's cleared (fully) when the pain goes away, so he tells us when the pain goes away," D'Antoni said.

D'Antoni said he has not had any discussions with team management about adding another big man in the interim with Gasol flying back to L.A. on Thursday morning to meet with Lakers team doctors as well as a specialist, but he plans to meet with general manager Mitch Kupchak in Miami on Saturday to talk things over.

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby last stand on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:30 pm

Well with a torn labrum you can injure other parts of the shoulder because it's not a stable and weaker.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:33 pm

That's pretty much what I've been saying: he's afraid.

And I totally understand that from a human perspective. I can't take that away from him. The media is trying to drum up the Kobe v. Dwight thing, but Kobe said it right ther: he's not implying Dwight should play if it means hurting himself more. Just that if he CAN'T hurt it anymore, then he should play. And I think that's always been his position with EVERY teammate.

As fans obviously it's easy for us to call him out, but if he feels like he's not healthy enough and if he's nervous about his future I totally understand that.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby last stand on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:33 pm

Weezy wrote:
The Laker Link wrote:if he is just feeling a slight tingle, then do it. But his Interview with SAS and his legs going numb and stuff, that is concerning.


He has been talking about having numbness in his legs due to his back injury all season, it is not something new, and it might be something that never goes away. He said tw doctors told him he would have issues like that, though I forget if it was for a while or long term. So playing or not playing isn't going to help that, it has nothing to do with his shoulder injury, and as far as his back goes it's healed or he wouldn't have been playing all season, he might be at "75%" because of it but it is healed.


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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Kit on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:42 pm

Wow drama!
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Ice-Fire on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:15 pm

I don't think Howard has the heart and will to lead this franchise, he absolutely has no idea of how to play through pain.... and keeps getting stripped everytime he touches the ball...... its really annoying watching him play sometimes....... and he has a not-so-good post game down low....
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby kenzo on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:16 pm

Get the surgery done and end this BS. I feel bad for Nash and Kobe though.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Kit on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:18 pm

Dwightmare never ended after all.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby karacha on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:26 pm

I do understand all of them. Kobe and Nash don't have time, they want to try and win it now. Dwight is afraid he might make things worse. And since he is young and still not fully committed to the franchise until he signs that fat contract... why should he risk it all? He is afraid. But that's not a surprising reaction at all. When you think about it -- it's logical. It's a bad situation for all of them, but I do believe that he'll play if he can play without too much pain.

The reporters are just trying to stir the pot. Should he be answering to Kobe? No, absolutely not. But Kobe did not say exactly what they told Dwight. He said it all depends on whether Dwight's injury can get worse or not... and him playing or not playing depends on that. That's not the same as "I think he should play, because this is urgent."
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:33 pm

Remember when our previous center played during the playoffs on a knee that required surgery?......
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Maluco Beleza on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:34 pm

ESPN JUST STIRRED THE F'IN POT

THEY TOOK KOBE'S QUOTE AND RAN WITH IT AND NOW D12 RESPONDED
AND SAID "THIS IS MY LIFE MY FUTURE, I AM NOT GOING TO COME BACK
JUST TO COME BACK"

WOW GREAT JOB ESPN... KOBE JUST WANTS D12 TO BE LIKE HIM LIKE A
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby karacha on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:35 pm

Yeah.

I remember that time when we were doing something in the playoffs. :mhihi:

Look at his knees now. :man6:

At least his hair styles are keeping the reporters busy these days.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Kit on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:35 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Remember when our previous center played during the playoffs on a knee that required surgery?......


I was thinking about that earlier. He drained his knee a couple times just to play.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Center Court on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:35 pm

King of Clutch wrote:ESPN doing their usual stirring.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/stor ... der-injury



I'm so tired of the ESPN excuse. The words came out of Kobe's mouth and they slighted Dwight in a number of ways. ESPN is reporting it. There is no way to spin it positively. Stirriing the pot it what the media do. Not just ESPN and not just to the Lakers. He said, It was a stupid thing to say and Dwight is pissed. If Kobe doesn't want Dwight in a position to answer that crap, he should have never said. Tell you wife. Not the media. Kobe knows damn well that every word of his get's report, exaggerated, even twisted. Long run, Kobe might be costing us Dwight Howard. Short term, team chemistry just took 2 steps backwards.

What's next? "well they favor LeBron and don't spin him any sort of way"... yeah and that's because Bron does throw anybody under the buss.

Anyone ever realize when the Lakers history of "drama" started? It wasn't showtime. It wasn't Eddie Jones or NVE. It seems to coincide with Kobe. Is it a product of losing, yes. But just as Kobe deserves all the credit when things go right, I'll give all of it when things go wrong. On and Off the court. Since he isn't exactly sharing the role with Dwight he should get the blame. Not ESPN.

Imagine Dwight's perspective. The whole time he's been here he's been made by Kobe to feel like some pupil. Some apprentice. That's BS. Since DAY 1, Kobe says it's MY team. Then it was, "it's not going to be easy but he'll get there. ETC ETC" "I want to bring the dog out in him". In Dwight's mind he's thinking who the F do you think I am. I'm here to play basketball, not become your whipping boy and your project. Is Dwight a baby, yeah. But as "the" leader, Kobe should placate that and make it work. That is the first step in being a great leader. And that's the one thing Kobe is horrible at- being a leader. CP3 is what leadership is all about. Kobe may be old school, but the rest of the NBA is different. They want to hang out. They want to go to dinner. They want their wives and girls to go to dinner like the Clippers did. They want their kids to hang out. Even D Fish, Kobe's BFF, admitted he's never even been invited to Kobe's house. Kobe is cold. Yeah, he probably means well and has his playful light hearted moments (which seem more often now that he's older) but he's still a lone wolf. He prides himself on that. I understand it and don't disagree with it, but I am the first to acknowledge he is the cause to many of issues here. Wanting everyone to be a "warrior" isn't in the cards. Roll with the punches and make everyone comfortable, not vice versa.

I'm just a concerned fan that we are about to watch Dwight walk. A center of Dwight's caliber should only want to be in LA.. not just be okay with it. Which at this point seems like a stretch.

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:38 pm

Dwight can either.....

1.) Get surgery and be quiet

2.) Not get surgery and be quiet

3.) Just shut up
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Ice-Fire on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:39 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Remember when our previous center played during the playoffs on a knee that required surgery?......


Yeah, as much of a headache Bynum was he did his best to play through injuries, Howard seems not to care it's probably because he already wants to leave after this season and doesn't want to jeopardize his health for the next team he's gonna be playing for.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby karacha on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:41 pm

Well, that's simply who Kobe is. And this is who Dwight is. They are completely different. Dwight kinda... fits with the new generation of players. Kobe would fit well with Jordan or Kareem or Bird. He's not going to change now because of Dwight. (he can probably work just fine with Nash though)

I'm not throwing Kobe or Dwight under the bus here. I do understand both of them, but there's nothing that can be done. If Dwight re-signs, he'll have to play some more with Kobe... then the team is his. Is he patient enough? I don't know.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby karacha on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:42 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
3.) Just shut up


That's a good advice. For all of them actually. Dwight, Pau and Kobe.

Everyone except Nash, because he isn't saying much and is always politically correct anyway.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby scissors on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:46 pm

BSPN just stirring things up for ratings. I bet Kobe and Howard are just laughing it up.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Kit on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:47 pm

scissors wrote:BSPN just stirring things up for ratings. I bet Kobe and Howard are just laughing it up.


I hope so.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Lakerman JSJ on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:47 pm

karacha wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:
3.) Just shut up


That's a good advice. For all of them actually. Dwight, Pau and Kobe.

Everyone except Nash, because he isn't saying much and is always politically correct anyway.


Word.

Can the entire team just shut the hell up already? None of this does anything but hurt chemistry.
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