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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:57 am

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King of Clutch wrote:Lol have you WATCHED horford? The mans feet are glued to the floor. He's even worse. At least lopez has a little quickness in him. And his pnr D wasn't bad, you're over exaggerating that. As for gasol. He would flourish alongside lopez. Lopez has a better stroke than gasol which could give him space, and is one of the few centers in the league who could actually be as skilled as he was in his prime. Him avg 2.2 blocks makes him an above average defender I can tell you that.


glued to the floor? :man10: are you sure you're not mistaken it for Lopez jumpshot? :man10: For a guy who's glued to the floor and is only 6 10 compared to 7ft Lopez, its embarassing that Horford has avg. more rebs than Lopez this season and throughout their careers

......................... :man10: why am I not surprised. You do know that BKN has a better defense than atlanta right? Lol of course not. You truly don't know much about basketball. Lopez D> Horfords D. Thats a fact. horford isn't even in the top 39 in blocks. Lol yet he's the tallest guy on his team, and there are only 32 teams in this league. Now THATS pathetic. :man10:


just what I thought as well, you got NOTHING on Horford reb to Lopez :man10: , again embarrasing a 6 10" has to play C on a team with a bunch of other shorter players and yet can still manage to out reb a 7fter :man10: For all this better D, better overall talent, Atl is only 1 gm back in the loss colum to Bk hmmmm :freak2:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby GoldenKnight on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:59 am

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khmrP wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:Lol have you WATCHED horford? The mans feet are glued to the floor. He's even worse. At least lopez has a little quickness in him. And his pnr D wasn't bad, you're over exaggerating that. As for gasol. He would flourish alongside lopez. Lopez has a better stroke than gasol which could give him space, and is one of the few centers in the league who could actually be as skilled as he was in his prime. Him avg 2.2 blocks makes him an above average defender I can tell you that.


glued to the floor? :man10: are you sure you're not mistaken it for Lopez jumpshot? :man10: For a guy who's glued to the floor and is only 6 10 compared to 7ft Lopez, its embarassing that Horford has avg. more rebs than Lopez this season and throughout their careers

......................... :man10: why am I not surprised. You do know that BKN has a better defense than atlanta right? Lol of course not. You truly don't know much about basketball. Lopez D> Horfords D. Thats a fact. horford isn't even in the top 39 in blocks. Lol yet he's the tallest guy on his team, and there are only 32 teams in this league. Now THATS pathetic. :man10:


Horford isn't going to help us reach the playoffs & win a ring, Lopez is garbage & rebounds like a guard. We already have Howard he is just injured quit acting like he is straight out sucking at 100% health.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:03 am

GoldenKnight wrote:Horford isn't going to help us reach the playoffs & win a ring, Lopez is garbage & rebounds like a guard. We already have Howard he is just injured quit acting like he is straight out sucking at 100% health.


well it appears Howard certaintly isn't gona do it either :man10: , this is merely a debate as to who would you rather get if either scenario was possible. Horford has been forced to play C for years and the fact he's managed to put up repectable #'s and on a winning team with less talent then Bk should more the indicate his abilities to play and lead, we all know it isn't Smith leading these Hawks to where they are today, just ask any Atl fans.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:06 am

khmrP wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
khmrP wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:Lol have you WATCHED horford? The mans feet are glued to the floor. He's even worse. At least lopez has a little quickness in him. And his pnr D wasn't bad, you're over exaggerating that. As for gasol. He would flourish alongside lopez. Lopez has a better stroke than gasol which could give him space, and is one of the few centers in the league who could actually be as skilled as he was in his prime. Him avg 2.2 blocks makes him an above average defender I can tell you that.


glued to the floor? :man10: are you sure you're not mistaken it for Lopez jumpshot? :man10: For a guy who's glued to the floor and is only 6 10 compared to 7ft Lopez, its embarassing that Horford has avg. more rebs than Lopez this season and throughout their careers

......................... :man10: why am I not surprised. You do know that BKN has a better defense than atlanta right? Lol of course not. You truly don't know much about basketball. Lopez D> Horfords D. Thats a fact. horford isn't even in the top 39 in blocks. Lol yet he's the tallest guy on his team, and there are only 32 teams in this league. Now THATS pathetic. :man10:


just what I thought as well, you got NOTHING on Horford reb to Lopez :man10: , again embarrasing a 6 10" has to play C on a team with a bunch of other shorter players and yet can still manage to out reb a 7fter :man10: For all this better D, better overall talent, Atl is only 1 gm back in the loss colum to Bk hmmmm :freak2:

What does the team record have to do with anything? :man10: why would you even bring it up when they're still BEHIND the nets anyway. Lol and why am I even arguing this with you?!?! Only someone who's mentally deficient would seriously say horford is a better player than Lopez. Not surprized though, you don't know much about basketball.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:08 am

khmrP wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:Horford isn't going to help us reach the playoffs & win a ring, Lopez is garbage & rebounds like a guard. We already have Howard he is just injured quit acting like he is straight out sucking at 100% health.


well it appears Howard certaintly isn't gona do it either :man10: , this is merely a debate as to who would you rather get if either scenario was possible. Horford has been forced to play C for years and the fact he's managed to put up repectable #'s and on a winning team with less talent then Bk should more the indicate his abilities to play and lead, we all know it isn't Smith leading these Hawks to where they are today, just ask any Atl fans.

lol so its horford? He's arguably not even a better player than josh smith!! Lol i'm done. I'm wasting my time on this one.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Weezy on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:11 am

How hard is it to argue and be civil at the same time? Mentally deficient, don't know much about basketball, these are personal shots. That's not allowed around here, keep it civil and keep it about the points being made, not about the poster, or warnings will be given.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:11 am

GoldenKnight wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
khmrP wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:Lol have you WATCHED horford? The mans feet are glued to the floor. He's even worse. At least lopez has a little quickness in him. And his pnr D wasn't bad, you're over exaggerating that. As for gasol. He would flourish alongside lopez. Lopez has a better stroke than gasol which could give him space, and is one of the few centers in the league who could actually be as skilled as he was in his prime. Him avg 2.2 blocks makes him an above average defender I can tell you that.


glued to the floor? :man10: are you sure you're not mistaken it for Lopez jumpshot? :man10: For a guy who's glued to the floor and is only 6 10 compared to 7ft Lopez, its embarassing that Horford has avg. more rebs than Lopez this season and throughout their careers

......................... :man10: why am I not surprised. You do know that BKN has a better defense than atlanta right? Lol of course not. You truly don't know much about basketball. Lopez D> Horfords D. Thats a fact. horford isn't even in the top 39 in blocks. Lol yet he's the tallest guy on his team, and there are only 32 teams in this league. Now THATS pathetic. :man10:

Horford isn't going to help us reach the playoffs & win a ring, Lopez is garbage & rebounds like a guard. We already have Howard he is just injured quit acting like he is straight out sucking at 100% health.

No question. Just debating the next best center. Which according to khmrP, is AL HORFORD. :man10: :man10: :man10:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:12 am

King of Clutch wrote:What does the team record have to do with anything? :man10: why would you even bring it up when they're still BEHIND the nets anyway. Lol and why am I even arguing this with you?!?! Only someone who's mentally deficient would seriously say horford is a better player than Lopez. Not surprized though, you don't know much about basketball.


can't even address rebounding issue :man10:

Hoford 16/10
12 mill/yr straight for 3 yrs
Lopez 18/7
14, 15, 16

yea...I know who I would be taking for the value.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:12 am

Weezy wrote:How hard is it to argue and be civil at the same time? Mentally deficient, don't know much about basketball, these are personal shots. That's not allowed around here, keep it civil and keep it about the points being made, not about the poster, or warnings will be given.

I'm just messin. This is just a friendly debate. Nothing personal.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:13 am

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khmrP wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:Horford isn't going to help us reach the playoffs & win a ring, Lopez is garbage & rebounds like a guard. We already have Howard he is just injured quit acting like he is straight out sucking at 100% health.


well it appears Howard certaintly isn't gona do it either :man10: , this is merely a debate as to who would you rather get if either scenario was possible. Horford has been forced to play C for years and the fact he's managed to put up repectable #'s and on a winning team with less talent then Bk should more the indicate his abilities to play and lead, we all know it isn't Smith leading these Hawks to where they are today, just ask any Atl fans.

lol so its horford? He's arguably not even a better player than josh smith!! Lol i'm done. I'm wasting my time on this one.


umm Pau to play C, Horford would play his natural position of PF, if thats to hard to understand, ok? :man3:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Weezy on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:13 am

King of Clutch wrote:
Weezy wrote:How hard is it to argue and be civil at the same time? Mentally deficient, don't know much about basketball, these are personal shots. That's not allowed around here, keep it civil and keep it about the points being made, not about the poster, or warnings will be given.

I'm just messin. This is just a friendly debate. Nothing personal.


BS, keep it civil and knock off the insults.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:14 am

khmrP wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:What does the team record have to do with anything? :man10: why would you even bring it up when they're still BEHIND the nets anyway. Lol and why am I even arguing this with you?!?! Only someone who's mentally deficient would seriously say horford is a better player than Lopez. Not surprized though, you don't know much about basketball.


can't even address rebounding issue :man10:

Hoford 16/10
12 mill/yr straight for 3 yrs
Lopez 18/7
14, 15, 16

yea...I know who I would be taking for the value.

Wait so do you agree that Lopez is the better PLAYER regardless of money?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:16 am

King of Clutch wrote:
khmrP wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:What does the team record have to do with anything? :man10: why would you even bring it up when they're still BEHIND the nets anyway. Lol and why am I even arguing this with you?!?! Only someone who's mentally deficient would seriously say horford is a better player than Lopez. Not surprized though, you don't know much about basketball.


can't even address rebounding issue :man10:

Hoford 16/10
12 mill/yr straight for 3 yrs
Lopez 18/7
14, 15, 16

yea...I know who I would be taking for the value.

Wait so do you agree that Lopez is the better PLAYER regardless of money?


nope, especially not with Pau in the picture.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:16 am

Weezy wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
Weezy wrote:How hard is it to argue and be civil at the same time? Mentally deficient, don't know much about basketball, these are personal shots. That's not allowed around here, keep it civil and keep it about the points being made, not about the poster, or warnings will be given.

I'm just messin. This is just a friendly debate. Nothing personal.


BS, keep it civil and knock off the insults.

lol Oh come on, there are no babies here. But I gotcha. i'll keep it toddler friendly.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:19 am

khmrP wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
khmrP wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:What does the team record have to do with anything? :man10: why would you even bring it up when they're still BEHIND the nets anyway. Lol and why am I even arguing this with you?!?! Only someone who's mentally deficient would seriously say horford is a better player than Lopez. Not surprized though, you don't know much about basketball.


can't even address rebounding issue :man10:

Hoford 16/10
12 mill/yr straight for 3 yrs
Lopez 18/7
14, 15, 16

yea...I know who I would be taking for the value.

Wait so do you agree that Lopez is the better PLAYER regardless of money?


nope, especially not with Pau in the picture.

ok so why would you even include the word value in there. And why are including pau in the picture? I said just based on skill, forget about money, or ANY OTHER FACTORS. Do you agree that lopez is the better player? Because you bringing up the word "value", and listing their contracts would have anyone thinking that you only think horford has the better value. lol am I right on that count?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:20 am

Player G W L GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Al Horford 11 6 5 11 34.7 5.9 11.3 .524 0.0 0.0 2.7 3.4 .811 2.2 7.8 10.0 3.4 0.8 0.6 1.9 2.9 14.5
Brook Lopez 11 5 6 11 34.4 6.9 12.7 .543 0.0 0.0 3.4 4.4 .771 3.0 4.3 7.3 1.5 0.5 1.5 2.0 2.0 17.2

H2H, Horford vs. Lopez, one is 6 10 the other is 7ft, can't see the clear case here who's better.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Weezy on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:20 am

King of Clutch wrote:
Weezy wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
Weezy wrote:How hard is it to argue and be civil at the same time? Mentally deficient, don't know much about basketball, these are personal shots. That's not allowed around here, keep it civil and keep it about the points being made, not about the poster, or warnings will be given.

I'm just messin. This is just a friendly debate. Nothing personal.


BS, keep it civil and knock off the insults.

lol Oh come on, there are no babies here. But I gotcha. i'll keep it toddler friendly.


It's not about keeping it "toddler friendly" because people are babies, yet more insults, it's about keeping it respectful and following the rules, not that difficult.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:21 am

Weezy wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
Weezy wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
Weezy wrote:How hard is it to argue and be civil at the same time? Mentally deficient, don't know much about basketball, these are personal shots. That's not allowed around here, keep it civil and keep it about the points being made, not about the poster, or warnings will be given.

I'm just messin. This is just a friendly debate. Nothing personal.


BS, keep it civil and knock off the insults.

lol Oh come on, there are no babies here. But I gotcha. i'll keep it toddler friendly.


It's not about keeping it "toddler friendly" because people are babies, yet more insults, it's about keeping it respectful and following the rules, not that difficult.

I said ok. Lol what more do you want from me?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:23 am

Looks like CL is ready to trade Dwight.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:25 am

Chillbongo wrote:Looks like CL is ready to trade Dwight.

If he can just play hard and dominate like he can do even at 75%, he wouldn't hear a peep from anyone. He's still the best center in the league talent wise. That hasn't changed, his play has.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Weezy on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:26 am

King of Clutch wrote:
Weezy wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:
Weezy wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:I'm just messin. This is just a friendly debate. Nothing personal.


BS, keep it civil and knock off the insults.

lol Oh come on, there are no babies here. But I gotcha. i'll keep it toddler friendly.


It's not about keeping it "toddler friendly" because people are babies, yet more insults, it's about keeping it respectful and following the rules, not that difficult.

I said ok. Lol what more do you want from me?


To not say ok with a jab thrown in or sarcastically, I felt I still needed to make my point as it wasn't getting across.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:32 am

Weezy wrote:
King of Clutch wrote:I said ok. Lol what more do you want from me?


To not say ok with a jab thrown in or sarcastically, I felt I still needed to make my point as it wasn't getting across.

No it got across fine. And toddler friendly wasn't a jab. Don't know what reason you think I have to throw a jab at you. lol relax, there's no need to get defensive. I just said it to show how much i'll tone it down. Thats all.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby King of Clutch on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:35 am

khmrP wrote:Player G W L GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Al Horford 11 6 5 11 34.7 5.9 11.3 .524 0.0 0.0 2.7 3.4 .811 2.2 7.8 10.0 3.4 0.8 0.6 1.9 2.9 14.5
Brook Lopez 11 5 6 11 34.4 6.9 12.7 .543 0.0 0.0 3.4 4.4 .771 3.0 4.3 7.3 1.5 0.5 1.5 2.0 2.0 17.2

H2H, Horford vs. Lopez, one is 6 10 the other is 7ft, can't see the clear case here who's better.

I can, its lopez. By about half a mile. :man10:
And those are career numbers. Irrelevant to this debate.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:36 am

King of Clutch wrote:
khmrP wrote:Player G W L GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Al Horford 11 6 5 11 34.7 5.9 11.3 .524 0.0 0.0 2.7 3.4 .811 2.2 7.8 10.0 3.4 0.8 0.6 1.9 2.9 14.5
Brook Lopez 11 5 6 11 34.4 6.9 12.7 .543 0.0 0.0 3.4 4.4 .771 3.0 4.3 7.3 1.5 0.5 1.5 2.0 2.0 17.2

H2H, Horford vs. Lopez, one is 6 10 the other is 7ft, can't see the clear case here who's better.

I can, its lopez. By about half a mile. :man10:


I guess pts is all that counts for you then?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: might play vs. Boston

Postby Lakerman JSJ on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:36 am

Chillbongo wrote:Looks like CL is ready to trade Dwight.


Ready to trade his attitude at least. Man the F up, Dwight. Ya sound like a little girl. :man6: :man6: :man6:
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