last stand wrote: Rooscooter wrote:
last stand wrote:Says he supports players who give consistent effort
Supports Bynum all last season blindly
I almost forgot why you are on my ignore list.
I pointed out exactly what Howard is and has done last year when everyone was blinded by some dunks, a cape and a phone booth. Now he's our problem and doing those same things and MWP is the problem?
Interesting that you pick on the player that is least like Dwight in his approach to the team and game to single out.
As for what I've done without your revisionist history.... I said on numerous occasions that getting Howard straight up was something we should do....... You, along with quite a few others were wanting to trade Pau AND Bynum for him. I have never defended Bynum's antics..... I didn't act like a jilted teenage girl like a lot here....... Maybe my reasonable reaction confused you.
Putting words in my mouth. I don't remember ever saying pau and Bynum for Dwight. I may have but I doubt it. I like pau. And unlike artest even though pau complains he still moves the ball.
Allen iverson gave 100% every game, doesn't change the fact that he was a black hole. Effort is not the only indicator of playing a team game. It only determines one thing. Effort.
Again I was one of the few who defended Bynum last season and I remember all of your arguments. It's ridiculous that you act like you only support hustle when last season you were after people questioning Bynum when he gave poor effort. Either you're hypocritical or you pick and choose who you want to defend and who you want to detract
My gripes with Howard have been consistent from the beginning of the whole Bynum vs Howard thing. I warned that you should be careful what you wish for. Bynum had his issues but they were centered on different things than Howard's. Howard is acting no different here than he did in Orlando. His recent string of "saying what everyone wants to hear" is nothing new either. He would do it all the time in Orlando only to go back to his true feeling at the first sign of adversity.
The Iverson shot is interesting.... Iverson led his teams in scoring AND assists most every year I believe. So how did he not "share"? Howard has played largely on teams designed down to the water boy to open the middle and get him the ball where he can dunk it because of what happens when he doesn't. Shooters, perimeter defenders and guards that were all there specifically for his support. It still wasn't enough to keep him from throwing everyone under the bus and pouting for two years until he was traded....
Those are the facts of this guy. He's also a fantastic player in the right conditions but he's not ever been the guy to instill a sense of confidence in his teammates as someone that can be counted on in adverse situations.
I truly hope he's turning some corner and he will be the player worthy of our only "Max slot" in a couple years. I had my doubts before he came here and I've seen or heard nothing that changes my mind yet. Words are one thing.... consistent action is another. Let's see if he's showing stat sheets to the press the next time he gets less than 8 shots.....
He's played well in the last two..... against a fossil PF and a journeyman PF. His missed free throws nearly cost us last night and I'll bet over the season we've lost 4 or 5 because of his poor free throw shooting..... in typical Howard fashion.... remember his 2 week long promise to get better at free throw shooting? It's long gone and he hopes forgotten along with all the other "right things" he says when it's expedient. How about don't say it...... just do it....... and tell us how you did it after...
As for the injury and being in condition. Ruptured Disk surgeries result in permanent issues.... I'm sure he's lost some range of motion and the ability to lift like he did before. Having played with guys in college that had similar issues it drastically changed how they trained for Football and I'm sure it's the same for him. The not being in shape stuff hard to believe IMO. He's been playing full contact Basketball since October..... you're telling me a 27 year old elite athlete can't get in game shape in 4 months?....