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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Weezy on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:40 pm

I've seen the flagrant play quite a few times now, and no he didn't make a play on the ball, but Faried went down like he got shot, come on. He could have gone down normal, but he contorted his body in the air to fall on his face, seemingly on purpose, almost so he could pretend to smack his face on the ground like he was hammered. It was a 'hard' foul, but come on, there was some Oscar worthy performance at the end with the acting like he got shot in the face.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby odom1year on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:41 pm

If I am D12, when signing the new contract with Lakers, I will make sure the coach must not MDA.
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Postby Finwë on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:42 pm

Terrible game. No energy, no effort and just dumb decisions. I didn't feel like his foul was flagrant 2 material, but still it was retarded. Looked desinterested from the start, pretty much took the game off.
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Postby Ras Algethi on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:42 pm

Really stupid move by Dwight. Wasnt a flagrant 2 but just dumb. He gave half arse effort all game and then just pulled that crap.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Finwë on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:43 pm

odom1year wrote:If I am D12, when signing the new contract with Lakers, I will make sure the coach must not MDA.

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odom1year wrote:Hero: Kobe
Zero: MDA (How come you can bench D12 in entire 4th Qtr ?)


You didn't even watch the game. :man10:

Really blows your cover.


LOL.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:46 pm

I hate the Flagrant Rule.... WTS, Dwight should have been ejected for that. He purposefully made contact with his head and then pushed all while Faried was in the air....

He did a very similar thing to McGee a few possessions earlier that may have played into it as well....

He had little energy and wasn't really in the game mentally all night. As sad as it is to say.... I don't think his ejection changed the way we played in the game.... that's the kind of impact he was making tonight.

Edit: His comments after the game aren't going to help him either.... "I get penalized for fouling hard... nothing new". News big guy.... that wasn't a hard foul.

Something about playing center for LA these days makes our guys go nuts at times....
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:48 pm

he wasnt there tonight. just wasnt interested. i think he needs some more touches on pnr then hes getting. that said he still should be engaged and winning should be enough motivation.

it also sucks when no one is playing D and dwight is expected to do everything and cant. especially when no one helps him or rotations are slow and lazy.

im gunna throw this game away in my head and hope the next one is more like what we saw during our win streak heart and energy wise
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Pig Miller on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:52 pm

i actually don't think he warranted a flagrant. hard foul, nothing more. it's not like he was clotheslined.

flagrant fouls are bogus. get rid of the rule.
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Postby CaCHooKa Man on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:52 pm

i think hes tired
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Postby King of Clutch on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:52 pm

Stupid stupid fouls so far, this time it cost us a W. I don't get why he does such stupid fouls. he got away with it the first time on kuofos, should've stopped then.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Pig Miller on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:55 pm

King of Clutch wrote:Stupid stupid fouls so far, this time it cost us a W. I don't get why he does such stupid fouls. he got away with it the first time on kuofos, should've stopped then.


dwight didn't lose the game for us. this was a team loss if i've ever seen one. he didn't give up 126 points by himself.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby odom1year on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:59 pm

Finwë wrote:
odom1year wrote:If I am D12, when signing the new contract with Lakers, I will make sure the coach must not MDA.

Doc Brown wrote:
odom1year wrote:Hero: Kobe
Zero: MDA (How come you can bench D12 in entire 4th Qtr ?)


You didn't even watch the game. :man10:

Really blows your cover.


LOL.


Got it. He was ejected. I was checking stats online only. Sorry to MDA. But his defensive gameplan really sucks.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:00 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:i think hes tired


I think it's that and he's not able to do what he could before the surgery. He seems frustrated a lot lately. He's also getting hung out to dry by our lack of chemistry on the defensive end. All of that has added up to what we saw tonight IMO...
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Postby Ariza3 on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:05 pm

ya i think hes just frustrated. even in the wins he didnt seem that happy like his usual self. hes prob beating himself up alot bc hes not able to do what he usually could.

our team has to come together and play defense bc dwight cant do it all like they all think. tonight though he didnt even give any effort on that end i saw. maybe a play or 2 but overall he didnt even try to make an effort on d and barely jumped for a rebound. no one did though too.
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Postby D.B. Cooper on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:08 pm

Dumb move, just glad he didn't take off his jersey before he left the court
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Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:24 pm

D.B. Cooper wrote:Dumb move, just glad he didn't take off his jersey before he left the court
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Postby timothy on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:25 pm

i also believe he's frustrated, idk if he's upset at his teammates on the defensive end(because he pretty much does everything for us there), but it's understandable when kobe, meeks, duhon, and our other perimeter guards just cannot STAY IN FRONT of their man. i don't think it's that hard to do, the way our guards are playing defense is as if we've designed it to have their points beat us off the dribble at the 3 pt line and leave it to Howard every single damn time.

on top of that,

he sets numerous picks throughout the game for everyone, rolls on just about each one, but only gets the ball on those plays like 2x/game and it's ONLY from nash, that probably adds to his frustration as well.
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Postby JGC on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:29 pm

Pig Miller wrote:i actually don't think he warranted a flagrant. hard foul, nothing more. it's not like he was clotheslined.

flagrant fouls are bogus. get rid of the rule.


Yeah but according to the rules, it is a flagrant and it was considered a 2 because of the contact to Faried's face with the elbow area. That is an automatic flagrant 2 per the rules.

I mean, sometimes I don't think our players warrant getting called for a travel but, hey if you take 3 steps, that's the rules.
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Postby BDG on Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:41 pm

Sorry, but Dwight has been playing like GARBAGE as of late.

That being said, our defense went to hell when he got ejected.
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Postby The Rock on Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:59 pm

Dwight's gotta play better but hes the least of our problems
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Postby GoldenKnight on Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:02 am

Rooscooter wrote:
CaCHooKa Man wrote:i think hes tired


I think it's that and he's not able to do what he could before the surgery. He seems frustrated a lot lately. He's also getting hung out to dry by our lack of chemistry on the defensive end. All of that has added up to what we saw tonight IMO...


I agree with the both of you 100%, fatigued & frustrated from not being able to do what he used to physically so far.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby jimbo327 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:14 am

D12 is our whole defense. This was very similar to Bynum last year.

We need to do a much better job of rotating help when Dwight leaves his man to help. Someone needs to slide over quickly and put a body on his man until Dwight can recover). This is nothing new. Bynum was frustrated last year as well. Pau needs to step up here. Forget the offense, if Pau can just play like a 7 footer on defense, we would be killing teams out there. And we need to get better guard defenders. Duhon and Meeks are just getting blown by on a nightly basis.

Antoni might want to do some more practice and film session on defense.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:50 am

Rooscooter wrote:
CaCHooKa Man wrote:i think hes tired


I think it's that and he's not able to do what he could before the surgery. He seems frustrated a lot lately. He's also getting hung out to dry by our lack of chemistry on the defensive end. All of that has added up to what we saw tonight IMO...


Good call

Nash wasn't the only one at whom Howard pointed a finger, also calling for more emphasis to be placed on defense during D'Antoni's practices.

"Guys got to be in the right spots and they have to be taught it and it has to be something that you practice on so guys can understand," Howard said, visibly frustrated as he spoke. "They have to go through it. You just can't talk about defense or talk about where to go. You actually have to show guys where to go."


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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby borri on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:17 am

Rooscooter wrote:
CaCHooKa Man wrote:i think hes tired


I think it's that and he's not able to do what he could before the surgery. He seems frustrated a lot lately. He's also getting hung out to dry by our lack of chemistry on the defensive end. All of that has added up to what we saw tonight IMO...


He's tired. SEcond quarter, i noticed he was bent over grabbing his shorts on every inbounds play.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Greatest of All Time on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:42 am

Damn Dwight's basically calling Pringles out for his defensive philosophy. They need to have dinner and Dwight needs to convince Pringles they need to spend more than just 30 minutes talking about defense.
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