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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:23 pm

1. LOL

2. Source?

3. Kobe has another year left

4. Kobe has a no-trade clause

5. Yeah right.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby Weezy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:26 pm

I can't see Kobe being traded, it would be one if the biggest slaps in the faces to an all time great franchise player ever to not let him retire a Laker. I understand the thinking behind a report like that though, the Lakers chose Kobe over an aging Shaq, but it's hardly the same thing.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby SK8 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:27 pm

Source: Chad Ford/ESPN

I found it on RealGM.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/226238/Lakers-May-Choose-Dwight-Over-Kobe-If-Ultimatum-Given-In-Offseason

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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby trodgers on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:30 pm

Uncle Drew wrote:Source: Chad Ford/ESPN

I found it on RealGM.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/226238/Lakers-May-Choose-Dwight-Over-Kobe-If-Ultimatum-Given-In-Offseason

Don't attack me, i just copy/paste it....

I don't think anyone is attacking you.

The thought, though, is both impossible and laughable.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby John3:16 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:35 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:statue? lol


at this point, he'd be lucky to have a bobblehead night


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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby kenzo on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:37 pm

If Dwight stays... Mike is gone :man9: :jam2: right?
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Postby last stand on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:41 pm

Oh, more unsubstantiated rumors.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:47 pm

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RT @mhulicius: how big are the chances dwight tells lakers after the season i dont want to stay here sign and trade me? ---> Not high.


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RT @mhulicius: ---> The Lakers have a sense of what has to happen to keep Dwight long-term - he's a wild-card for sure, but they know.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:49 pm

Uncle Drew wrote:Don't attack me, i just copy/paste it....

I'm sorry if it came off that way. My "LOL" was more at the report...not at you. I just think that there's NO way that's true. Sorry if you took it towards yourself, but thanks for posting the source.
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Postby JLaker17 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:50 pm

I'll believe it when ever he officially signs/leaves, until then it is all just words.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:51 pm

The Lakers aren't trading Kobe and Dwight is coming back.

That's really all there is to it... Pau is the odd man out.
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Postby karacha on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:54 pm

^

Absolutely.

And Kobe is probably going to retire when his contract expires.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:55 pm

^Yup. From everything I read, to Dwight's interviews, to his Adidas contract, to his extra 5th year & 30 million dollars, it's very highly unlikely that Dwight leaves this market. I just don't see it happening. The Lakers will make sweeping changes across the board to keep this guy.

Kobe & Dwight are going to have to kiss & makeup & make this marriage work. Simple & plain.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:57 pm

They'll get that. And if/when Dwight heals up he's going to feel better and when he feels better he'll play better.

And when he plays better, we'll win more games.

And when we win more games, Kobe will be happy because that's all Kobe cares about.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby karacha on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:58 pm

They better, if they want to make a nice playoff run next year. Because there will be no dramatic changes. Especially if Jamison agrees to 1 more year of vet. minimum. We're only going to have Hill back. And if Dwight commits, which he probably will -- we might get something for Pau. But I certainly don't expect any superstars or any long contracts. Everything is planned for 14/15.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:08 pm

^
Hypothetical question.

If we could trade Dwight and Ron for K-Love (assuming he was 100% cleared and healthy) and an athletic, 2-way wing (something like Batum), would you not bite on the deal?
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:13 pm

I wouldn't.

Love/Batum is great, but AT FULL STRENGTH is Nash/Bryant/Batum/Love/Gasol a Championship team? Better question, is it better than Nash/Bryant/Artest/Clark/Howard at full strength?

Short answer: no. Because when they're at full strength Bryant and Howard are the best players at their position and can dominate a game in a way that Love, Batum, and Gasol cannot. Howard at his best is better than anyone else inside by far.

Considering Batum and Love are just as much health risks right now as Howard and to me that decision is easy.

Not to mention you might be able to get Love as a Free Agent in two years or heck even this summer with Gasol's expiring.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:18 pm

I guess I'm just lacking faith in Howard's recovery. I'd LOVE for it to happen. I'm not a Dwight hater...I just question his #1) fundamentals #2)effort on the Lakers #3)potential to return to healthy.

But as was stated, yes, I (as well as CL) will have a complete change of heart on Dwight if and when #2 & #3 are addressed.

But you're right. At full strength....but that is an "if" at this point.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:22 pm

His full strength will never be what it was in Orlando, but at full strength NOW he'd be able to jump a little higher, move a little faster, battle a little longer, and hold the ball a lot stronger.

A lot of his physical issues are simply that he's not used to playing at this weak of a level. He hasn't looked this small since his 2-3rd year in the league. Let him work out and heal up and get back to it and he'll be more confident mentally and he'll have some more fun.

I have more faith in his recovery physically than his failure.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby Center Court on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:22 pm

Chillbongo wrote:1. LOL

2. Source?

3. Kobe has another year left

4. Kobe has a no-trade clause

5. Yeah right.



Chad Ford said it...

but there is NO WAY we trade Kobe. Arguably the greatest Laker ever and you trade him to please a guy who can't commit? Shut up Chad, shut the f up.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:25 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:statue? lol


at this point, he'd be lucky to have a bobblehead night


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Postby LakerFanIam on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:28 pm

If the Lakers traded or amnestied Kobe in favor of Dwight, I would seriously boycott the organization... And this is coming from a DieHArd Laker fan since 1979....
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby Kit on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:35 pm

The Lakers are better than that.
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Postby GoldenKnight on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:49 pm

Love the Dwight interview. Sounded much more positive & committed. I'm glad these stupid trade ideas & rumors are now put to rest. Looking for him to have a big 2nd half of the season.
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Re: Dwight Discussion:"the legacy,the history..means a lot"(893)

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:30 pm

Kit wrote:The Lakers are better than that.


Yeah. Mitch would find the eloquent and right way to respond to that demand if it were made and say no it's not happening. Goodbye, if you're serious. Plus why they would be a weaker team not to Dwight's benefit. Now hey ....if he has the JUICE to tell them the only way he comes back is if Dan Tony is gone and they bring back in Phil, who he and both Kobe wanted in the first place..... go for it Dwight, CL is 100% behind you. :man10:
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