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Postby Lakerjones on Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:56 am

abeer3 wrote:
Weezy wrote:You see that happening a lot and I don't get it, it's like he's reffed by a different standard like Shaq was because he's so big and strong.


yeah, i also really dislike how the refs "keep it even". for example, once they called scola for a hold, you knew, 100%, that howard was going to get an offensive foul called on him within two possessions--whether he deserved it or not. and you knew scola wasn't going to be whistled again for his wrestling tactics.

oh, and if regular tyson chandler makes 15 per, then i'm pretty sure rich man's tyson chandler can get the max.


^^ All of this is so damn true. I thought that same thing when Scola got the hold. They are straight out letting guys murder this guy and giving him a lot of touch calls and offensive fouls on the other end. Jeez, imagine if they let this guy do what KG, Perkins and Duncan do on screens. There are some real double standards out there in the league.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby TheOp on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:00 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
mcten: Dwight Howard said the Lakers reunited starting five went on a 28-0 run against the subs at practice ... http://t.co/e8ES6fV1aj


Funny part is Dwight was wrong. It was a 38-0 run :man10:


If they can finally all play together, well I guess were in for a show.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby Ariza3 on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:51 am

too bad its not about talent. its their mentality...which you'd think after everything this season would be way different by now
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby Jordan-esque on Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:18 am

Dwight Howard:

20 points - 15 rebounds - 8/9 FG - 4/5 FT

Sad part? He had 0 attempts in the entire 4th quarter.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby odom1year on Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:36 am

Jordan-esque wrote:Dwight Howard:

20 points - 15 rebounds - 8/9 FG - 4/5 FT

Sad part? He had 0 attempts in the entire 4th quarter.


MDA is really a bad coach though.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby charvin on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:20 am

That is as good a statline as they come. Nearly perfect game, yet it ended up in a loss.

Jordan-esque wrote:Dwight Howard:

20 points - 15 rebounds - 8/9 FG - 4/5 FT

Sad part? He had 0 attempts in the entire 4th quarter.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:03 am

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
mcten: Dwight Howard said the Lakers reunited starting five went on a 28-0 run against the subs at practice ... http://t.co/e8ES6fV1aj


Funny part is Dwight was wrong. It was a 38-0 run :man10:



Well there you go......they left it all on the practice floor. Damn I missed most of the second half until the very end but thought we were looking pretty good the first half. Guess I missed all the great stuff everyone here sounds rightly pissed about. Bad loss. :bang:
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:15 am

No FG attempts in the 4th quarter. That's not good. The ball wasn't moving as good in the 1st half as it was in the 2nd half, obviously. Good game from Dwight, though. He should dominate in GS as well...
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby GoldenKnight on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:39 pm

Jordan-esque wrote:Dwight Howard:

20 points - 15 rebounds - 8/9 FG - 4/5 FT

Sad part? He had 0 attempts in the entire 4th quarter.


This had me completely heated up last night, there's no reason why Kobe needs to shoot the ball every single time in the 4th or for Metta to try to force a drive with like 30 sec left, absolutely terrible.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby Weezy on Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:52 pm

For whatever reason they stopped getting him dunks/lobs in the 4th. Maybe it was the Wizards changing their defense, maybe it was them ignoring him, I can't really say. I can say that I'm not really surprised that he's not a 'go-to' guy down the stretch though, you throw him the ball for anything but a wide open dunk or alley-oop and they're gonna foul him, and that's not a guy you want on the line in the 4th with the game on the line. Not making excuses for him having ZERO FG attempts in the 4th, just saying, our guys might start going away from him even if they're not fully aware of it because in the back of their minds is the FT shooting thing.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby snackdaddy on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:14 am

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
mcten: Dwight Howard said the Lakers reunited starting five went on a 28-0 run against the subs at practice ... http://t.co/e8ES6fV1aj


So the Wizards starters are better than the Lakers subs? Who woulda thunk? :man10:
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby DuddlyDoRight on Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:34 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:
Jordan-esque wrote:Dwight Howard:

20 points - 15 rebounds - 8/9 FG - 4/5 FT

Sad part? He had 0 attempts in the entire 4th quarter.


This had me completely heated up last night, there's no reason why Kobe needs to shoot the ball every single time in the 4th or for Metta to try to force a drive with like 30 sec left, absolutely terrible.


This is what I dont understand, if the game is to move the ball, not everyone has to clear out for Kobe, just move in the offense, and if Kobe does drive cut to the basket and hell find you. When players clear out and stay there thats when the offense stagnates and we have problems. Not because of the iso itself.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby GoldenKnight on Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:35 pm

DuddlyDoRight wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:
Jordan-esque wrote:Dwight Howard:

20 points - 15 rebounds - 8/9 FG - 4/5 FT

Sad part? He had 0 attempts in the entire 4th quarter.


This had me completely heated up last night, there's no reason why Kobe needs to shoot the ball every single time in the 4th or for Metta to try to force a drive with like 30 sec left, absolutely terrible.


This is what I dont understand, if the game is to move the ball, not everyone has to clear out for Kobe, just move in the offense, and if Kobe does drive cut to the basket and hell find you. When players clear out and stay there thats when the offense stagnates and we have problems. Not because of the iso itself.


You've got it all wrong, Dwight was screening Kobe then rolling tot he rim & Kobe decided to pull up every single time, including the time when he missed a reverse layup having Dwight right next to him.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:57 pm

Kobe's rationale:

"I passed the ball enough for the first 3 quarters, time for me to get my shots up"

I think he had more shots in the 4th quarter than he did through the first 3 combined. That is absurd
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby sina on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:50 pm

That's Kobe. No disrespect to him. but He is a warrior/a fighter rather than a leader. If he had better leadership, he would have had more MVP and rings...
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby dj vitus on Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:08 pm

I didn't mind Kobe jacking up most of those shots in the 4th quarter. They were all pretty good looks. Had he hit just ONE, we would have won.
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Postby lakersin4 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:37 pm

When Kobe was missing FT's I was thinking we should see what Nash & Dwight can create. If Kobe's either missing fg's or missing ft's we might as well let Nash create/go to Dwight & have them either get an attempt off or kick it back out to a shooter. Not saying Kobe shouldn't take shots but I'd rather see him shoot an inside out 3 with the defense recovering than just come down & iso. We have a bunch of talented guys who can make plays. Dwight is much better than he was in the 1st half of the season. Kobe needs to trust him more.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby lotus on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:41 pm

dj vitus wrote:I didn't mind Kobe jacking up most of those shots in the 4th quarter. They were all pretty good looks. Had he hit just ONE, we would have won.

Kobe dominating the offense the last 3 minutes of a game is not always going to work. Everyone on that team would likely agree. But what's so disappointing is that they don't seem to know when it's not working enough to avoid it.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby JSM on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:49 pm

40 minute podcast interview with Dwight:

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/03/24 ... ht-howard/

Some of things he touched on --
-Dieting.
-Dunks.
-His injuries.
-He'll get the team to do the Harlem Shake if we a 'ship.
-He and Hakeem talk/text during the season and he is going to work with him in the summer. Thinks he is the best big for him to work with.
-He will work with Cap too.
-Worked with LA's coaching staff on how to finish quicker to combat the opposition's hacking and how hard they hit him.
-The game in Orlando was the first time he's marked his calendar for a game.
-On what he's learned from Kobe/Nash: They don't let the things on the outside affect who they are and they've been stressing that all year (so has Pau and MWP).
-Superman nickname originated from teammates because he listened to Soulja Boy 24/7 when it first came out, benching 325 (estimation) in the weight room, and from dunking over Bo Outlaw in practice...the culmination of those events led to his Supes nickname.
-Doubts he'll ever do another dunk contest.
-Discusses his longstanding relationship with Adidas and what he wants to do with them in LA and has some big ideas on that front (doesn't sound like something you'd think all that much about if you weren't here for the long haul).
-Prefers blocking over dunking.
-High point in the season: coming together, working everything out, and listening to the passion of these guys wanting to win. And how Kobe, Nash, MWP, Pau want him to be one of the greatest

BTW, these interviewers (Jabari Davis, Jamieson Welsh, and Jory Dreher) seemed as though they didn't know what to say after Dwight answered one of their questions besides "cool, cool."
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:03 pm

lotus wrote:
dj vitus wrote:I didn't mind Kobe jacking up most of those shots in the 4th quarter. They were all pretty good looks. Had he hit just ONE, we would have won.

Kobe dominating the offense the last 3 minutes of a game is not always going to work. Everyone on that team would likely agree. But what's so disappointing is that they don't seem to know when it's not working enough to avoid it.

It needs to be Nash that sees it because he's the playmaker if the ball isn't in Kobe's hands. Pau some of the time now, but mostly Nash. If he can't spot it, D'antoni needs to step up & make the call..
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Postby Rooscooter on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:45 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:Kobe's rationale:

"I passed the ball enough for the first 3 quarters, time for me to get my shots up"

I think he had more shots in the 4th quarter than he did through the first 3 combined. That is absurd


Who do you want with the ball down the stretch? Howard? Nash? or is it just easy to pick on the guy that missed the shot?

You're always here to tell everyone how it SHOULD have been... why not for once tell us how it's going to happen with all of your knowledge and skill?

That game was lost at the defensive end. They got open shots on 90% of their possessions... they missed them in the first quarter and didn't over the next 3... it wasn't as if we were stopping them from getting what they wanted.

.... and as for Kobe's shooting. Pencil out a play that would get someone an open and clean look from 10 feet like the one Kobe missed. Tell us who takes a better shot and how they get it while your at it.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:56 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:Kobe's rationale:

"I passed the ball enough for the first 3 quarters, time for me to get my shots up"

I think he had more shots in the 4th quarter than he did through the first 3 combined. That is absurd


Who do you want with the ball down the stretch? Howard? Nash? or is it just easy to pick on the guy that missed the shot?

You're always here to tell everyone how it SHOULD have been... why not for once tell us how it's going to happen with all of your knowledge and skill?

That game was lost at the defensive end. They got open shots on 90% of their possessions... they missed them in the first quarter and didn't over the next 3... it wasn't as if we were stopping them from getting what they wanted.

.... and as for Kobe's shooting. Pencil out a play that would get someone an open and clean look from 10 feet like the one Kobe missed. Tell us who takes a better shot and how they get it while your at it.

It's not about 1 shot.. He was missing shot after shot & splitting his ft's.. He was off & it was obvious. I still want the ball in his hands for the last shot but we should have broken down the defense & found the open man. If that open man is Kobe, by all means, take every shot.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: "They have a monster in the middle" (930)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:17 pm

JSM wrote:40 minute podcast interview with Dwight:

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/03/24 ... ht-howard/

Some of things he touched on --
-Dieting.
-Dunks.
-His injuries.
-He'll get the team to do the Harlem Shake if we a 'ship.
-He and Hakeem talk/text during the season and he is going to work with him in the summer. Thinks he is the best big for him to work with.
-He will work with Cap too.
-Worked with LA's coaching staff on how to finish quicker to combat the opposition's hacking and how hard they hit him.
-The game in Orlando was the first time he's marked his calendar for a game.
-On what he's learned from Kobe/Nash: They don't let the things on the outside affect who they are and they've been stressing that all year (so has Pau and MWP).
-Superman nickname originated from teammates because he listened to Soulja Boy 24/7 when it first came out, benching 325 (estimation) in the weight room, and from dunking over Bo Outlaw in practice...the culmination of those events led to his Supes nickname.
-Doubts he'll ever do another dunk contest.
-Discusses his longstanding relationship with Adidas and what he wants to do with them in LA and has some big ideas on that front (doesn't sound like something you'd think all that much about if you weren't here for the long haul).
-Prefers blocking over dunking.
-High point in the season: coming together, working everything out, and listening to the passion of these guys wanting to win. And how Kobe, Nash, MWP, Pau want him to be one of the greatest

BTW, these interviewers (Jabari Davis, Jamieson Welsh, and Jory Dreher) seemed as though they didn't know what to say after Dwight answered one of their questions besides "cool, cool."


I'm listening to the interview right now. Dwight sounds very happy. Good interview. Thanks for posting.
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Re: Dwight Discussion: Podcast interview highlights (935)

Postby SpencerHarrison on Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:45 pm

It would be a dark day indeed to see the Lakers do a harlem shake video.
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