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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby havoc33 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:16 pm

Weezy wrote:I'm stunned that Dwight actually said that stuff. I don't see how anyone could read that and not think Kobe immediately, so ya can't believe he said it. My question, is why the whining, why say this publicly now? Also, Kobe's way of approaching things has led to 2 championships with him as the main guy, and 3 more as the co-star, and Dwight hasn't won s***, so he really shouldn't be talking about having fun and enjoying himself as a recipe for success. Kobe wants to win, it drives him,if that makes Dwight upset and sad maybe he should get the hell over it and play ball, or get the hell out of town because I want players who put winning first here.

+1... couldn't have said it better myself. I thought the initial two quotes were bad enough, but now this alpha male stuff.. nothing good can come of this. *shakes my head* I think it's obvious that the pressure is getting to him.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby karacha on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:17 pm

Uh oh, this does not sound good.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby GoldenKnight on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:18 pm

Media is trying to re-create the Kobe/Shaq circus and the fans are falling into it.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby kenzo on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:21 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:Media is trying to re-create the Kobe/Shaq circus and the fans are falling into it.

Re-create? This are the ACTUAL quotes. You only need a half of brain to know it's about Kobe.
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Postby KBJelleyBean24 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:22 pm

I wonder what kind of package we can get if Dwight does a sign-and-trade once the season ends?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Weezy on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:22 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:Media is trying to re-create the Kobe/Shaq circus and the fans are falling into it.


No, the media asked a simple question and Dwight spilled everything that has been obviously bothering him, all pretty much voluntarily. He's far to emotional and he's showing it now, whereas mostly everyone else is pretty good at keeping It in-house. If he thought Kobe was rough to deal with before, now, uh oh.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:24 pm

I wonder who management will favor now? Ok not really. Kobe's hints of retiring answers most of that. It's Howard's team going forward so stop fantasizing Kobe fans.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby John3:16 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:24 pm

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby GoldenKnight on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:24 pm

kenzo wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:Media is trying to re-create the Kobe/Shaq circus and the fans are falling into it.

Re-create? This are the ACTUAL quotes. You only need a half of brain to know it's about Kobe.


Could be somehow taken out of context as always, or could be an older interview?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby karacha on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:25 pm

Weezy wrote:If he thought Kobe was rough to deal with before, now, uh oh.


I think Kobe is going to growl and snarl at him. :man9:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby kenzo on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:27 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:
kenzo wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:Media is trying to re-create the Kobe/Shaq circus and the fans are falling into it.

Re-create? This are the ACTUAL quotes. You only need a half of brain to know it's about Kobe.


Could be somehow taken out of context as always, or could be an older interview?

One can only dream.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Weezy on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:28 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:
kenzo wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:Media is trying to re-create the Kobe/Shaq circus and the fans are falling into it.

Re-create? This are the ACTUAL quotes. You only need a half of brain to know it's about Kobe.


Could be somehow taken out of context as always, or could be an older interview?


It's word for word, plus put in context by the reporter who actually said "here's the context", and it's from today. I get what you're saying man, but sometimes things just are what they are, no need to be in denial about this one. Anyone watching games this season could tell Dwight wasn't happy on the court and that he and Kobe don't love eachother.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby GoldenKnight on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:32 pm

Read it again, he is clearly defining what alpha male means to him & not referring to Kobe at all. He is basically saying he can have fun while being an alpha male & he doesn't have to go about grunting, snarling, or pissing all over the place. He can smile & his teammates like it when he does.

Here's the context: Kobe spoke first today. We relayed his quotes to Dwight. Then asked him generally if he saw himself as an alpha male


I fear that some of you read that wrong and think they asked Kobe if he saw himself as an alpha male, which is not the case, they asked Dwight if he saw himself as an alpha male. The fact that the reporter mentioned Kobe spoke first was inserted there for the reader to assume the question or any conversation regarding being the alpha male was asked to Kobe, which it was not.

Like I said, read carefully, the media is trying their best to re-create the Shaq/Kobe feud...don't fall into their nonsense.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Weezy on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:35 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:Read it again, he is clearly defining what alpha male means to him & not referring to Kobe at all. He is basically saying he can have fun while being an alpha male & he doesn't have to go about grunting, snarling, or pissing all over the place. He can smile & his teammates like it when he does.

Here's the context: Kobe spoke first today. We relayed his quotes to Dwight. Then asked him generally if he saw himself as an alpha male


I fear that some of you read that wrong and think they asked Kobe if he saw himself as an alpha male, which is not the case, they asked Dwight if he saw himself as an alpha male. The fact that the reporter mentioned Kobe spoke first was inserted there for the reader to assume the question or any conversation regarding being the alpha male was asked to Kobe, which it was not.

Like I said, read carefully, the media is trying their best to re-create the Shaq/Kobe feud...don't fall into their nonsense.


I've read it like 20 times, I don't see how you can seriously read those quotes and not see him referring to Kobe in every single line.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby GoldenKnight on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:42 pm

Dwight: "If you're an alpha male, you don't have to always show that you're the alpha male. Just be who you are."


Be who you are, meaning he can be his own personality & smile.

Dwight: "It's not about making your mark or going around pissing everywhere. You don't have to do that."


Again, defending who he is & that he doesn't have to go out of his way.

Dwight: "My presence is felt every day and I don't have to come here and growl and snarl at people."


He can be effective being himself.

Dwight: "They [teammates] like when I come in, have fun, and enjoy myself. If they can't do it, it's not a great working environment."


They have to accept him for who he is and if they don't that's their problem.

B4 u freak out over Dwight's ''alpha male" quotes, he was speaking generally. Can't conclude he's talking about Kobe. Tho one has to wonder

Here's the context: Kobe spoke first today. We relayed his quotes to Dwight. Then asked him generally if he saw himself as an alpha male


Dwight simply responded to their GENERAL question about what an alpha male is to him, Kobe spoke first, but was never asked these questions. This is where the trick comes in, Kobe spoke first but that has zero to do with the question Dwight was just asked about being an alpha male HIMSELF.

Dwight asked me to define "alpha male" behavior. I said: "It's a dominant, everybody get out of my way, I'm the man attitude"

Dwight said: "That's not being an alpha male. If you're an alpha male, you don't have to always show that you're the alpha male."


To conclude, he doesn't show he is an alpha male with personality (grunting, growling, pissing all over) He does it on the court as he already stated.

Dissecting the media is all it takes to see their intentions, don't be so quick to jump the gun.
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Postby kenzo on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:43 pm

Denial is strong with this one. Come on bro, fun times are over in LA :man6:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby GoldenKnight on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:46 pm

kenzo wrote:Denial is strong with this one. Come on bro, fun times are over in LA :man6:


Because you as the readers are assuming Kobe is the alpha male & that the quotes are about Bryant or that Bryant was asked about being an alpha male.

They asked Dwight what alpha male means to him, Dwight has always been bothered about how he smiles too much and how he doesn't have it in him to be a leader (alpha male) & his responses are always aggressive about that. He always defends his personality, as he did just then.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Weezy on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:50 pm

Dude, I never want to accuse someone of trying to hard here, that's just not my thing, but come on man you're trying way too hard. You're making excuses for Dwight at an extreme level, his comments are clear, to see them the way you did takes a lot of effort. It is what it is man, Dwight's not happy, he and Kobe approach the game differently, and clearly they aren't best friends.
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Postby DHL on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:54 pm

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby GoldenKnight on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:55 pm

Weezy wrote:Dude, I never want to accuse someone of trying to hard here, that's just not my thing, but come on man you're trying way too hard. You're making excuses for Dwight at an extreme level, his comments are clear, to see them the way you did takes a lot of effort. It is what it is man, Dwight's not happy, he and Kobe approach the game differently, and clearly they aren't best friends.


Look at his past interviews about him smiling too much and you'll see. Media hype, the fact that Kobe spoke first had no business whatsoever in this.
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Postby Doc Brown on Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:22 pm

You mean he's mad about Kobe not giving him the "defib dance" when D12 is laying on the ground?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby last stand on Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:36 pm

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:40 pm

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Somebody doesn't like somebody and that problem needs to be fixed.


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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Helljumper on Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:52 pm

Eh, these comments aren't that big of a deal. Obviously referring to Kobe, but Dwight's comments are more in defense of himself than anything else. They'll work it out off the court, I just hope they can figure it out on the court.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion: FT stroke found! - pg768

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:55 pm

Helljumper wrote:Eh, these comments aren't that big of a deal. Obviously referring to Kobe, but Dwight's comments are more in defense of himself than anything else. They'll work it out off the court, I just hope they can figure it out on the court.


...... just like Howard figured it out "off the court" in Orlando.... :man12:

Get real... he's on a team that Kobe has played on for 17 season..... and starts this to defend his play?
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