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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:34 pm

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Weezy wrote:Worthy needs to shut up about Dwight, we don't need anyone at all turning him off to LA, especially a guy that's going to be on tv talking about the Lakers all the time.


Worthy publicly supported keeping Bynum rather than getting Howard. He's not going to change his mind overnight.


He doesn't have to change his mind, I just said he should shut up about it. He can feel that way all he wants, but I see no need to be so critical of Howard now that he's here.

Yep. I had figured Worthy wouldn't be exactly happy about it. He had been bashing Howard/ touting Bynum for a good month at least so I knew he wouldn't feel necessarily happy. He's entitled to his opinion, but now that Dwight is here, it's time to support him.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby Juronimo on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:40 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:He's just trying to give Howard some tough love.

No more antics on court, no more unfocused nonsense.

If we're going to get the best out of Dwight, he's going to have to play on another level of focus.


I agree. I have no problems with what James Worthy said.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby SK8 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:43 pm

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:46 pm

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:56 pm

^^^^^ Have you ever heard her talk in an interview? Totally sounds like a dude.....deeep voice.

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby revgen on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:32 pm

therealdeal wrote:
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Weezy wrote:Worthy needs to shut up about Dwight, we don't need anyone at all turning him off to LA, especially a guy that's going to be on tv talking about the Lakers all the time.


Worthy publicly supported keeping Bynum rather than getting Howard. He's not going to change his mind overnight.


He doesn't have to change his mind, I just said he should shut up about it. He can feel that way all he wants, but I see no need to be so critical of Howard now that he's here.

Yep. I had figured Worthy wouldn't be exactly happy about it. He had been bashing Howard/ touting Bynum for a good month at least so I knew he wouldn't feel necessarily happy. He's entitled to his opinion, but now that Dwight is here, it's time to support him.


What do you expect Worthy to do? Lie to the reporter asking the question? Give a BS response?

Worthy isn't the kind of person who says "no comment" or "I've already spoken on this issue before". That's why I like him as an analyst.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:42 pm

I agree he should lighten up at this point a bit. A little more diplomatic with answers.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby OX1947 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:40 pm

99% of all break ups end badly. And 100% of the time, the break up is blamed on the prettiest girls. IE, Lebron, Dwight, etc. Worthy is truly one of the few old school guys. Worthy held his game his entire career for the sake of winning and team. Worthy is one of the few who had all world talent and allowed himself to be the 3rd guy, to win. So, whatever Worthy says, I'll accept. And whatever he says, wont matter anyway when it comes to this team winning and Howard playing. If Howard is 100%, he will win DOPY this year and if there arent major injuries to our big 4, this team is winning it all. At that point, it wont matter what happen in Orlando, only thing that will matter is the Lakers are officially the greatest basketball franchise ever.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby Helljumper on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:46 pm

Really? Worthy needs to lie to avoid hurting Dwight's feelings even though he's just saying what most of us (and pretty much every NBA fan who tuned in to the Dwightmare) were saying a few months ago?

I'm extremely happy we have Dwight and want him to stay a Laker for the rest of his career. But if he's so mentally weak as to be turned off from LA based off a couple of harmless comments from a professional sports analyst, then I wouldn't want him here. Luckily, unlike some of you guys, I'm pretty sure if Dwight heard those comments, he probably wouldn't care because he's already heard the same criticisms and he probably knows there's some truth to it.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:02 pm

revgen wrote:
What do you expect Worthy to do? Lie to the reporter asking the question? Give a BS response?

Worthy isn't the kind of person who says "no comment" or "I've already spoken on this issue before". That's why I like him as an analyst.

I just expect him to be more diplomatic. It's one thing to say "I was opposed to Dwight coming here before and I didn't like the way he acted while in Orlando, but now that he's here I'm glad he's here. He's a great fit blah blah blah." It's quite another to say something like "We already have a Superman."

That second statement sounds more like Shaq than a Laker fan. We've got a Mamba, we did't have a Superman.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:39 pm

Helljumper wrote:Really? Worthy needs to lie to avoid hurting Dwight's feelings even though he's just saying what most of us (and pretty much every NBA fan who tuned in to the Dwightmare) were saying a few months ago?

I'm extremely happy we have Dwight and want him to stay a Laker for the rest of his career. But if he's so mentally weak as to be turned off from LA based off a couple of harmless comments from a professional sports analyst, then I wouldn't want him here. Luckily, unlike some of you guys, I'm pretty sure if Dwight heard those comments, he probably wouldn't care because he's already heard the same criticisms and he probably knows there's some truth to it.


For those of us that watched Worthy's career the bolded part is the very definition of irony......
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:05 am

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revgen wrote:
Weezy wrote:Worthy needs to shut up about Dwight, we don't need anyone at all turning him off to LA, especially a guy that's going to be on tv talking about the Lakers all the time.


Worthy publicly supported keeping Bynum rather than getting Howard. He's not going to change his mind overnight.


He doesn't have to change his mind, I just said he should shut up about it. He can feel that way all he wants, but I see no need to be so critical of Howard now that he's here.

Umm why should he? Everyone has the right to express their own opinion. If Dwight is turned off by these comments than I don't want him here anyone. All that would show is that he's mentally weak. Some of you are way too sensitive. Not everyone is gonna be kissing our [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.].
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby revgen on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:27 am

therealdeal wrote:
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What do you expect Worthy to do? Lie to the reporter asking the question? Give a BS response?

Worthy isn't the kind of person who says "no comment" or "I've already spoken on this issue before". That's why I like him as an analyst.

I just expect him to be more diplomatic. It's one thing to say "I was opposed to Dwight coming here before and I didn't like the way he acted while in Orlando, but now that he's here I'm glad he's here. He's a great fit blah blah blah." It's quite another to say something like "We already have a Superman."

That second statement sounds more like Shaq than a Laker fan. We've got a Mamba, we did't have a Superman.


Bynum understood how to be a 2nd or 3rd guy on the team. Something Worthy knows a thing or two about since he was the 3rd guy on those Showtime teams even though he led his UNC squad to a championship when he was in college. One of the rumors floating about was that Dwight didn't want to come to LA because he wanted to be "the Man" in New Jersey. That's not going to happen here for awhile. Granted Bynum also wanted a larger role too, and hence why he's glad to have that chance in Philly, but at least Bynum knew how to play the 2nd or 3rd fiddle role. Dwight, not so much. All Worthy is inferring is that Dwight will have to find a way to understand his new role with a new team. His "Superman" days in Orlando are over until Kobe and Nash retire. He'll have to make a huge adjustment.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby GoldenKnight on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:35 am

All these bitter old ex Laker players are not doing anything positive to keep Dwight in L.A, they need to get over it already geeez.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby revgen on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:45 am

GoldenKnight wrote:All these bitter old ex Laker players are not doing anything positive to keep Dwight in L.A, they need to get over it already geeez.


Where's Dwight going to go? Dallas?

Are you guys really that scared that he's going to leave? :man10:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby bystander on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:45 am

GoldenKnight wrote:All these bitter old ex Laker players are not doing anything positive to keep Dwight in L.A, they need to get over it already geeez.


LOL They have the right to speak their mind. They are Lakers legends and they have won. Howard has acted like a stupid spoiled teenage girl this summer. He has a lot of redeeming to do.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby JSM on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:06 am

Here's what Bill Russell had to say about the addition...

John Hareas of NBA.com wrote:NBA.com: Dwight Howard is coming off of back surgery, if he's healthy, what will he add to the Lakers?

Russell: We'll have to see. In Orlando, some of his skills went underused. Now, playing in L.A., with a different group and a different emphasis, how will they use his skills in order to win? With the addition of Steve Nash as well, the Lakers can be very, very good. It's going to take them at least half a season -- at least -- before we know how good they can be.


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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby OX1947 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:14 am

GoldenKnight wrote:All these bitter old ex Laker players are not doing anything positive to keep Dwight in L.A, they need to get over it already geeez.


Every ex laker can talk until their blue in the face, Howard is not leaving 50 million on the table at the end of the year between his bird right year and shoe contract.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby dj vitus on Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:42 am

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:04 am

revgen wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:All these bitter old ex Laker players are not doing anything positive to keep Dwight in L.A, they need to get over it already geeez.


Where's Dwight going to go? Dallas?

Are you guys really that scared that he's going to leave? :man10:

Well the dude changes his mind like you and me change underwear so it really wouldn't surprise me. Problem for him is his options are very limited.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:08 am

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Well the dude changes his mind like you and me change underwear so it really wouldn't surprise me. Problem for him is his options are very limited.


How ironic. A guy criticizing another person because they constantly flip flop on their statements.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:26 am

revgen wrote:
Bynum understood how to be a 2nd or 3rd guy on the team. Something Worthy knows a thing or two about since he was the 3rd guy on those Showtime teams even though he led his UNC squad to a championship when he was in college. One of the rumors floating about was that Dwight didn't want to come to LA because he wanted to be "the Man" in New Jersey. That's not going to happen here for awhile. Granted Bynum also wanted a larger role too, and hence why he's glad to have that chance in Philly, but at least Bynum knew how to play the 2nd or 3rd fiddle role. Dwight, not so much. All Worthy is inferring is that Dwight will have to find a way to understand his new role with a new team. His "Superman" days in Orlando are over until Kobe and Nash retire. He'll have to make a huge adjustment.


Worthy can have any opinion he wants, I don't care what it is. But that doesn't mean he needs to express those thoughts and feelings in such a negative way.

And Howard will absolutely still need to be Superman. If Howard comes here and doesn't play as aggressively as he did in Orlando, we're going to be in trouble.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby v1n5anity on Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:32 am

Doc Brown wrote:
Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Well the dude changes his mind like you and me change underwear so it really wouldn't surprise me. Problem for him is his options are very limited.


How ironic. A guy criticizing another person because they constantly flip flop on their statements.


Glad I'm not the only one who noticed KeepBynum's flip-floppping.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby revgen on Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:18 pm

therealdeal wrote:
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Bynum understood how to be a 2nd or 3rd guy on the team. Something Worthy knows a thing or two about since he was the 3rd guy on those Showtime teams even though he led his UNC squad to a championship when he was in college. One of the rumors floating about was that Dwight didn't want to come to LA because he wanted to be "the Man" in New Jersey. That's not going to happen here for awhile. Granted Bynum also wanted a larger role too, and hence why he's glad to have that chance in Philly, but at least Bynum knew how to play the 2nd or 3rd fiddle role. Dwight, not so much. All Worthy is inferring is that Dwight will have to find a way to understand his new role with a new team. His "Superman" days in Orlando are over until Kobe and Nash retire. He'll have to make a huge adjustment.


Worthy can have any opinion he wants, I don't care what it is. But that doesn't mean he needs to express those thoughts and feelings in such a negative way.

And Howard will absolutely still need to be Superman. If Howard comes here and doesn't play as aggressively as he did in Orlando, we're going to be in trouble.


1) He's not being negative. He's just telling the truth.

2) It's not about aggressiveness. It's about his role on the team. He's not the #1 man here in LA. Kobe is "superman" on this team. It's something Dwight will need to adjust to.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:21 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Well the dude changes his mind like you and me change underwear so it really wouldn't surprise me. Problem for him is his options are very limited.


How ironic. A guy criticizing another person because they constantly flip flop on their statements.

Not ironic at all.
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