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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:19 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:It's mind blowing a guy could experience a 20% drop in FT%. Really don't care how good is defense is, dude should be banned from the league for shooting like this.


Didn't Shaq have his best free throw shooting year in his first year as well?....

We will have to win in spite of this.... Orlando did....
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby easyguy on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:20 pm

[Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] at least Shaq made his fts when it counted.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:20 pm

Rooscooter wrote:MDA just said that 9-21 wasn't the problem tonight.... that Howard's free throw shooting hasn't been an issue.... Orly.....


it is a pb but by the time there is a hack a Dwight by the Magic , we should be up 20 ...

D12 FTs will make the headlines but our team pbs start with another non fixable issue : DEFENSE ... well unless we trade for quicker players
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby 432J on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:20 pm

why is there no rule against the hack-a-shaq defense or in this case hack-a-dwight?

shouldn't the league be doing something about this to prevent the game from slowing down and sucking all the energy out of it?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby gill on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:22 pm

432J wrote:why is there no rule against the hack-a-shaq defense or in this case hack-a-dwight?

shouldn't the league be doing something about this to prevent the game from slowing down and sucking all the energy out of it?


They already did. You can only do it to the 2:00 minute mark (IIRC, you could do it all game long). They should extend it to the 4:00 minute mark... or you know, force the damn coach to actually make a change? :man2:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby trodgers on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:22 pm

432J wrote:why is there no rule against the hack-a-shaq defense or in this case hack-a-dwight?

shouldn't the league be doing something about this to prevent the game from slowing down and sucking all the energy out of it?

This sounds a bit like sour grapes. I agree that it slows it down and makes it suck a bit, but I also think dude needs to hit the FTs.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby JLaker17 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:23 pm

50% is horrible, but there is simply no excuse to hit below that. I can not believe a professional is this bad.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby 432J on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:24 pm

trodgers wrote:
432J wrote:why is there no rule against the hack-a-shaq defense or in this case hack-a-dwight?

shouldn't the league be doing something about this to prevent the game from slowing down and sucking all the energy out of it?

This sounds a bit like sour grapes. I agree that it slows it down and makes it suck a bit, but I also think dude needs to hit the FTs.

obviously there is no excuse for how poorly he's been shooting FT's

it's downright pathetic
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:25 pm

432J wrote:why is there no rule against the hack-a-shaq defense or in this case hack-a-dwight?

shouldn't the league be doing something about this to prevent the game from slowing down and sucking all the energy out of it?


Actually the rules WERE changed a few years ago to not allow fouls away from the ball with under 2:00 left. I'm against that from a competitive standpoint personally.... if you can do it for 46 minutes why not 48?
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:43 pm

I hate to say it but we have to start saving Pau for the 4th quarter. When teams break out the hack a Dwight we need Pau closing out games. If he's hitting his ft's leave him out there, if not we need a legit scorer in he post to close. MDA is a smart coach, especially on that end.. Let's see if he tries it out.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:44 pm

D12 should just bring the ball up the floor and shoot it every time he's about to get fouled. At least his half court shot will be closer than his free throws.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby Armani on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:46 pm

@docrostov: w... what. RT @conradkaczmarek: Whoops. Dwight-Jamison shared court for 19 minutes and allowed 57 points (132.7 per 100 poss.) That's a lot


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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby last stand on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:49 pm

saw this coming. dwight looked sluggish tonight. it's going to be on and off until his stamina gets back.

FTs well that's staying the same :man10:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:55 pm

I'm telling you.. Benching Dwight when they start hacking him & bringing in Pau is the answer. He's been steadily declining but he's not as much of a disadvantage as Dwight is when he's missing FT's.. Teams can completely take us out of games with Dwight out there. Once Nash is back, Nash, Kobe, Gasol with Jamison, Metta, Meeks, Hill depending on who else earns the closing role. There's no reason we can't have Dwight dominate for 3 quarters & then have those guys close the game. It worked with Shaq with far weaker role players. If Dwight wants to close games he can earn it by hitting his FT's. No more games.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby trodgers on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:55 pm

^ Agree on the solution.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:57 pm

i said it in gameday, i'll say it again

dwight should stay after every game and shoot three throws until he makes (in a row) the total number he missed in the game.

12 in a row, then you can go home big guy.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby easyguy on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:57 pm

Too much shoulder exercise :man9:
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:58 pm

I think the rationale is that you keep Dwight out there and force him to endure the embarrassment of being intentionally fouled so that he breaks through it and also because of his defense, but I don't think it's worth it.

His defense suffers when things don't go well on offense and when he starts missing his FTs it's just rolling the dice on whether he will start making them eventually. He needs to go out as soon as Hack-a-Dwight starts.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby Lakerjones on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:58 pm

trodgers wrote:^ Agree on the solution.


Me, too. I think it's sadly a necessity. Until the guy starts showing that he can hit his free throws down the stretch they need to take him out. Sucks, but I don't see any other solution unless they are fine with just losing what these close games (it was close until Hack a Dwight happened).
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby Lakerfantilidie on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:05 pm

last stand wrote:saw this coming. dwight looked sluggish tonight. it's going to be on and off until his stamina gets back.

FTs well that's staying the same :man10:
why? He should've been amped to play his former team and ddetermined to score 40 on them. Someone needs to tell him and this team this isnt the characteristics of a championship team
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby Lakerfantilidie on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:05 pm

last stand wrote:saw this coming. dwight looked sluggish tonight. it's going to be on and off until his stamina gets back.

FTs well that's staying the same :man10:
why? He should've been amped to play his former team and ddetermined to score 40 on them. Someone needs to tell him and this team this isnt the characteristics of a championship team
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby gill on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:07 pm

fkmikebrown wrote:i said it in gameday, i'll say it again

dwight should stay after every game and shoot three throws until he makes (in a row) the total number he missed in the game.

12 in a row, then you can go home big guy.


He better take some caffeine pills to keep him awake while he's at it. He's gon' be there for a looong time.
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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby Scnottaken on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:11 pm

432J wrote:
trodgers wrote:
432J wrote:why is there no rule against the hack-a-shaq defense or in this case hack-a-dwight?

shouldn't the league be doing something about this to prevent the game from slowing down and sucking all the energy out of it?

This sounds a bit like sour grapes. I agree that it slows it down and makes it suck a bit, but I also think dude needs to hit the FTs.

obviously there is no excuse for how poorly he's been shooting FT's

it's downdwight pathetic

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Re: Dwight Howard Discussion (And so it begins...)

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:11 pm

gill wrote:
fkmikebrown wrote:i said it in gameday, i'll say it again

dwight should stay after every game and shoot three throws until he makes (in a row) the total number he missed in the game.

12 in a row, then you can go home big guy.


He better take some caffeine pills to keep him awake while he's at it. He's gon' be there for a looong time.

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