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Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:20 pm

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therealdeal wrote:What is with this ridiculous need for him to commit in the middle of the season?

Trade him? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Unless Dwight Howard says "I'm not staying" you don't trade him. Plain and simple.


yea i don't get it. i think it was kobe himself who told dwight to not even think about the business side of stuff until the season is over, just to focus on winning basketball games. that's probably why he's answering that way.

Right? I mean what's wrong with him being focused on the game instead of the contract? Shouldn't we all be happy about that?
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby abeer3 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:41 pm

therealdeal wrote:What is with this ridiculous need for him to commit in the middle of the season?

Trade him? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Unless Dwight Howard says "I'm not staying" you don't trade him. Plain and simple.



ridiculous? hardly. like every player in his situation, if you want the questions to stop, give an answer. a non-answer is, in its way, an answer to that question anyway. and you don't have to sign anything: just say that your first choice would be to stay here. it's simple. it's not fully commital (as nothing can be until things are signed), but it's not non-commital, which is what he's been here and was in orlando.

as i said: i don't like a single thing he's said all year long. unless he's telling management different things behind closed doors, you'd have to consider offers at this point. his value is probably low right now, though, so you just have to cross your fingers.

as for his complaints: roo's right. he gets touches. maybe more than he should given how he's produced on offense this year. and the rock is right, too: if anything, you avoid the subject entirely because you know the media is after the "kobe shoots too much" angle. why give it to them?

i know: because you want to be their friend. tell kobe he shoots too much. to his face. tell stephen a. smith that you've got to make yourself a more viable offensive option.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Center Court on Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:54 pm

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therealdeal wrote:What is with this ridiculous need for him to commit in the middle of the season?

Trade him? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Unless Dwight Howard says "I'm not staying" you don't trade him. Plain and simple.



ridiculous? hardly. like every player in his situation, if you want the questions to stop, give an answer. a non-answer is, in its way, an answer to that question anyway. and you don't have to sign anything: just say that your first choice would be to stay here. it's simple. it's not fully commital (as nothing can be until things are signed), but it's not non-commital, which is what he's been here and was in orlando.

as i said: i don't like a single thing he's said all year long. unless he's telling management different things behind closed doors, you'd have to consider offers at this point. his value is probably low right now, though, so you just have to cross your fingers.

as for his complaints: roo's right. he gets touches. maybe more than he should given how he's produced on offense this year. and the rock is right, too: if anything, you avoid the subject entirely because you know the media is after the "kobe shoots too much" angle. why give it to them?

i know: because you want to be their friend. tell kobe he shoots too much. to his face. tell stephen a. smith that you've got to make yourself a more viable offensive option.


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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Finwë on Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:38 pm

Yeah I agree with abeer3 too.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:00 pm

I can fully understand his "camp" not wanting to commit at this time. That's the game...... Get the players and coach I want etc...... Stars from Magic to Kobe have used leverage like this. I'm a little surprised that Howard has been this consistent quite frankly..... :man10: His past wouldn't foretell that.

Watching the last 17 years and hearing what Kobe told him last summer I'm not sure how he thought he'd be utilized more here than in Orlando......that's quite a jump in logic IMO.....

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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:03 pm

Not a fan of Dwight calling Kobe out.. You get plenty of touches, you just get stripped or fouled. The only person that can turn more of your touches into points is you. Step up instead of pointing fingers. Kobe has been.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby khmrP on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:41 pm

hard to agree with his indecisive comment when one day he's opt in and the next day he demands a trade out of Orl but dam people hate this guy even before leaves. I guess you guys gona regret it if/when he's on another team mashing on Pau in the post but whatevers I hated on Bynum every comment too :man10: I guess when one has a predetermined mindset on a player its hard to change it, I'm indifferent with Howard if he leaves he leaves I wouldn't hate on him for that, still better scenario then having to decide if we have to give Bynum a max contract this upcoming off-season.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby purp n gold on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:59 pm

He should not comment on anything regarding his contract.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby khmrP on Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:05 pm

Cp3 is in the same situation and he's winning but I dont see him saying anything of the sorts like some here want out of Howard but I dont see Clipps entertaining offers and/or their fans getting on his case for not "committing"
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:27 pm

Rooscooter wrote:I can fully understand his "camp" not wanting to commit at this time. That's the game...... Get the players and coach I want etc...... Stars from Magic to Kobe have used leverage like this. I'm a little surprised that Howard has been this consistent quite frankly..... :man10: His past wouldn't foretell that.

Watching the last 17 years and hearing what Kobe told him last summer I'm not sure how he thought he'd be utilized more here than in Orlando......that's quite a jump in logic IMO.....

His opportunity for the big spotlight will come in two years if he is still here...... The biggest spotlight in the league...... Just ask Kobe.... :man10:

Exactly.

As fans obviously we want commitment, but from his camp it's clearly the right choice not to say anything.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby dak22 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:28 pm

khmrP wrote:hard to agree with his indecisive comment when one day he's opt in and the next day he demands a trade out of Orl but dam people hate this guy even before leaves. I guess you guys gona regret it if/when he's on another team mashing on Pau in the post but whatevers I hated on Bynum every comment too :man10: I guess when one has a predetermined mindset on a player its hard to change it, I'm indifferent with Howard if he leaves he leaves I wouldn't hate on him for that, still better scenario then having to decide if we have to give Bynum a max contract this upcoming off-season.


And is giving Howard the max, with what he's shown so far, any better? Do you think he'd be able to lead to this franchise post kobe with his lack of skill? We'd still be looking for that number 1 option regardless of who we signed. Mediocrity is the worst position to be in and a Howard-led team is always going to fall short to a Durant-team for example.

Also Howard's back is problematic: it wouldn't be a big deal if he didn't rely on athleticism to be a great player. Who knows if regains enough of it back to be a superstar? Normally you'd compensate with skill, but 9 years in the league+a summer of hakeem still can't teach him how to hold the ball high. I worry if he can develop his game enough to truly become an all-time great.

Finally, on top of having to recover from back surgery, he still has to worry about shoulder surgery this offseason. It might be a while before we even see Howard something close to his old self, let alone improve as a player.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby khmrP on Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:37 pm

dak22 wrote:
khmrP wrote:hard to agree with his indecisive comment when one day he's opt in and the next day he demands a trade out of Orl but dam people hate this guy even before leaves. I guess you guys gona regret it if/when he's on another team mashing on Pau in the post but whatevers I hated on Bynum every comment too :man10: I guess when one has a predetermined mindset on a player its hard to change it, I'm indifferent with Howard if he leaves he leaves I wouldn't hate on him for that, still better scenario then having to decide if we have to give Bynum a max contract this upcoming off-season.


And is giving Howard the max, with what he's shown so far, any better? Do you think he'd be able to lead to this franchise post kobe with his lack of skill? We'd still be looking for that number 1 option regardless of who we signed. Mediocrity is the worst position to be in and a Howard-led team is always going to fall short to a Durant-team for example.

Also Howard's back is problematic: it wouldn't be a big deal if he didn't rely on athleticism to be a great player. Who knows if regains enough of it back to be a superstar? Normally you'd compensate with skill, but 9 years in the league+a summer of hakeem still can't teach him how to hold the ball high. I worry if he can develop his game enough to truly become an all-time great.

Finally, on top of having to recover from back surgery, he still has to worry about shoulder surgery this offseason. It might be a while before we even see Howard something close to his old self, let alone improve as a player.


so you'd rather give Bynum max?
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:15 am

Played right into "ESP"SIN"'s hands :man10:

But what if Dwight leaves? What the heck do we do? Try to solicit LeBron to come here? And then some young point guard? But that still wouldn't fix anything.

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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Nikez on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:23 am

It should first be stated that it's ridiculous to think of dwight as a crybaby, and a bad teammate. Can someone please show me where he called out kobe? This is all fabricated bs that was piled on when we were at our lowest point.

If every fan in the world can criticize the way we were playing a couple weeks ago, why can't dwight when he is simply answering questions from reporters? Everybody took that to be a direct shot at kobe, but I think he is upset with the team effort, not just kobe. If anything kobe is a mentor to dwight and he has nothing but respect for him.

I don't believe the reason he has not publicly come out and said "I WILL BE A LAKER FOR LIFE 10000%" is for one, an obvious tactical move by his reps to get him max money, for two like he said I really think the main reason he has been dodging this is because he doesn't want all the drama and crap that comes with it and just wants to focus on basketball and helping us not suck anymore. I mean who cares about these questions about the roster, and "committing", and all these questions if you are dwight? Look at it from his perspective, he clearly feels under attack by a majority of people out there who make character judgments about him, but the fact is he is committing to our team every practice and every game he's out there. He just wants to play and make us better, I'm surprised at how little time he has missed with the severity of his injuries, while he is still physically able to play the game what the fans and media cannot see is the pain he has with every move he makes.

He said when he signed with us that he wanted to be here for a long time and be one of the greatest bigs ever so why does he have to keep saying it? We have been sucking it up and fabricated articles have made us believe that a dwight trade is on the table because he suddenly hates playing for THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS. I don't buy it one bit.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby The Rock on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:25 am

Now Now, Dwight you shouldnt be talking especially when Pau has been outplaying you



Last 7 games: Pau's played 228 minutes. In those mins, Lakers OEff is 106.1, DEff is 97.3. Dwight in 146 mins OEff of 100.6, DEff of 100.7.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby khmrP on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:44 am

The Rock wrote:Now Now, Dwight you shouldnt be talking especially when Pau has been outplaying you



Last 7 games: Pau's played 228 minutes. In those mins, Lakers OEff is 106.1, DEff is 97.3. Dwight in 146 mins OEff of 100.6, DEff of 100.7.


so you gona run with that stat and say we're better off w/o Howard then?
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby The Rock on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:46 am

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The Rock wrote:Now Now, Dwight you shouldnt be talking especially when Pau has been outplaying you



Last 7 games: Pau's played 228 minutes. In those mins, Lakers OEff is 106.1, DEff is 97.3. Dwight in 146 mins OEff of 100.6, DEff of 100.7.


so you gona run with that stat and say we're better off w/o Howard then?



Not at all. I just dont like this interview thats all. He hasnt been playing well recently. He shouldnt be comin out pointing fingers at Kobe's shots or whatever his frustrations with the team are when he himself hasnt played well and part of the reason for the struggles.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby khmrP on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:54 am

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khmrP wrote:
The Rock wrote:Now Now, Dwight you shouldnt be talking especially when Pau has been outplaying you



Last 7 games: Pau's played 228 minutes. In those mins, Lakers OEff is 106.1, DEff is 97.3. Dwight in 146 mins OEff of 100.6, DEff of 100.7.


so you gona run with that stat and say we're better off w/o Howard then?



Not at all. I just dont like this interview thats all. He hasnt been playing well recently. He shouldnt be comin out pointing fingers at Kobe's shots or whatever his frustrations with the team are when he himself hasnt played well and part of the reason for the struggles.


its not like he brought up a new topic, he was just addressing the rumor situation, at least he's no ducking it and saying stuff didn't happen.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Maluco Beleza on Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:09 am

becuz if he says he's going to stay here then change his mind and leave he will look even worse.

nobody knows anything anyways til he signs or leaves in the summer so just wait.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Maluco Beleza on Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:15 am

The Rock wrote:WTF how can you be frustrated with shot attempts when you lead the league in free throw attempts the 1st 2 months of the season and you have a ridiculous high turnover rate for a big men. Do you see why you dont get the ball, Dwight? This is so ridiculous, Pau used to do it too when we were getting our [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] kicked in the Boston series when we went up there pointing to shot attempts...fact is despite passing the ball, our defense hasn't improved much and we're arent winning in a convincing manner either. So ridiculous these guys point to shot attempts to easily take the pressure off them because you know the media wants to beat hell out of the Kobe shoots narrative



i totally agree. and don't people realize including you d12 that they don't count getting fouled on a shot as a shot attempt. or do they have a stat on 'touches'... plus like you said he turns the ball over more than not or throws a hideous shot. and doesn't really know how to kick the ball out to perfection like shaq.

oh and i don't need to mention his free throws....worry about being a Defensive stopper and presence like Bill Russell. you're not that great of a freakin' scorer as you think d12.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby thkthebest on Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:54 am

Dwight shot 90% from the free throw line in high school? :man3: Can anyone confirm that?
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Finwë on Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:34 am

He's admitting that he's mentally weak. "It's all mental". He's missing because of outside pressure. WEAK. They kept track of his FT shooting in practice, dude shot like 80%. Mental midget.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby abeer3 on Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:19 am

straw man arguments being set up by the dwight defenders in this thread. nobody said he had to fully commit. just say you want to play here. that doesn't mean you will. not saying it should be taken as meaning he doesn't or isn't sure (neither is good). i bet i could find chris paul saying he wants to play for the clips.

and truth or not, continuing to even mention his touches or kobe's shot count is just plain immature and/or stupid. first, you're wrong: you touch the ball plenty. second, you should know better than to feed the trollz at espn.

it's garbage, imo, and i've been on dwight's side for much of the year (look up my posts). this is just too much of the same from him. gasol's been the same, btw: you can talk about other people when you start producing on a consistent basis. until then, i want to hear nothing but sunshine and rainbows out of your mouth in the press. kobe and nash have been much better about this, imo.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby khmrP on Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:49 am

abeer3 wrote: i bet i could find chris paul saying he wants to play for the clips.


find it then...i bet you you'll find the same vague comments from Paul as Howard of "playing for chip" and or "i'm not talking bout that right now, we're focused on the championship, I like playing with these guys, etc." but nothing concrete as some of you guys want Howard to say. As for the other stuff again he isn't stating he still feels that way, he is simply referring to the incidents that happened earlier during the extremely bad losing streaks.
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Re: Dwight Howard interview on Sports Center 3PM PST

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:50 am

Rooscooter wrote:I can fully understand his "camp" not wanting to commit at this time. That's the game...... Get the players and coach I want etc...... Stars from Magic to Kobe have used leverage like this. I'm a little surprised that Howard has been this consistent quite frankly..... :man10: His past wouldn't foretell that.

Watching the last 17 years and hearing what Kobe told him last summer I'm not sure how he thought he'd be utilized more here than in Orlando......that's quite a jump in logic IMO.....

His opportunity for the big spotlight will come in two years if he is still here...... The biggest spotlight in the league...... Just ask Kobe.... :man10:


^^ Me, too. I get it. But I'm not defending this guy, either. I don't like him doing this interview at this time. I find it incredibly distracting and as we can see, it's not exactly endearing him to LA fans to hear him whine about Kobe's touches and not give any inkling that he wants to stay here. The emphasis right now should be about winning games. That's it. That's all. Not next season, not what happened before the team meeting. Just focus on getting as healthy as possible and getting into the playoffs.
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