Dwight or Kobe?

Dwight or Kobe?

1) Dwight Howard
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2) Kobe Bryant
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby JGC on Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:18 pm

phoenixrisingla wrote:Given our situation, I would evaluate people based on who can help us win RIGHT NOW. I'm all for taking some chances on getting young legs in here... once we're back to being at least a playoff team.

IMO Nash gives us a better chance at turning this season around and (possibly :mhihi: ) next season than any of those other players by a fairly wide margin. I mean when I watched the games with him vs w/o him it seems to me that after improving our defense, the most important thing this needs is someone making good decisions and running the offence efficiently. Not only is nash head and shoulders above those other guys in terms of this, and his stats are better too.

Seems like a no brainer to fix this quickly to me.

Let's bring one in on Nash's 3rd year and have Steve mentor him, possibly even come off the bench.


So basically, if you think we have a championship core as currently constructed, we agree the vote is a no. But if you think we do NOT have a championship core as currently constructed, then we agree the vote is a yes? (At least, on Nash for Holiday).

I think that's fair. I'm leaning towards not a contending core though even though deep down, I'm still holding out hope.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby JGC on Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:19 pm

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lakers_09tv wrote:The only point guards that I would say are definitely better than Nash.

Westbrook
Rondo
Jrue Holiday
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Kyrie Irving

I can see some arguments for some other players as well, but I thinks its safe to say he is a top 10 point guard.

Deron is having an off year, but he is still averaging 17/8/3.


The only way Holiday or Irving are "better for the Lakers" is if the Lakers were a fantasy team and wins were the total of some obscure stats.....

Mentally untested, albeit talented players are not what THIS Lakers teams needs to get over the top. Remember his original premiss was THIS Lakers team..... not the next 8 years.

Westbrook is a mental midget that very talented. About the only way I would take him on the Lakers is as an obvious subordinate to Kobe.... otherwise a team with him leading goes nowhere.

For this Lakers team I don't think I'd trade Nash for Parker either....

Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


Oh. Was it THIS team? I guess I must have missed that. So we're not taking age or decline in to account then. Then I agree with you except I think I would only take CP3 for this team.

Rondo can't shoot. I'd only want Rondo if we're talking about another team, not this team.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:15 pm

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lakers_09tv wrote:The only point guards that I would say are definitely better than Nash.

Westbrook
Rondo
Jrue Holiday
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Kyrie Irving

I can see some arguments for some other players as well, but I thinks its safe to say he is a top 10 point guard.

Deron is having an off year, but he is still averaging 17/8/3.


The only way Holiday or Irving are "better for the Lakers" is if the Lakers were a fantasy team and wins were the total of some obscure stats.....

Mentally untested, albeit talented players are not what THIS Lakers teams needs to get over the top. Remember his original premiss was THIS Lakers team..... not the next 8 years.

Westbrook is a mental midget that very talented. About the only way I would take him on the Lakers is as an obvious subordinate to Kobe.... otherwise a team with him leading goes nowhere.

For this Lakers team I don't think I'd trade Nash for Parker either....

Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


Oh. Was it THIS team? I guess I must have missed that. So we're not taking age or decline in to account then. Then I agree with you except I think I would only take CP3 for this team.

Rondo can't shoot. I'd only want Rondo if we're talking about another team, not this team.


I put a lot of emphasis on performance under the bright lights..... that isn't where Paul has excelled at all.... Rondo on the other hand will probably challenge Magic's triple double totals in the playoffs if he stays on teams that make the playoffs. He noticeably raises his game in the post season. Paul?... he gets exposed a little IMO for what he is.... a ball dominant guard that can't carry a team scoring... so guys like Pop will make him a scorer like last year and the Clips will fail because he dominates the ball 80% of the time. Rondo can play off the ball, guard anyone from a Point guard to a small forward and can rebound...
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Congo Cash on Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:28 am

Deron is a Sloan product, without him he's trash... I'll take an old Nash over Deron without hesitation, and no he is not one of the best PG in the league... :man10:

And you are considering Jennings and Bledsoe over him... :man3:
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:35 am

Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


this might be the worst opinion i have ever heard
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby phoenixrisingla on Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:10 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


this might be the worst opinion i have ever heard


They say all opinions are equally valuable, but Rondo > CP3?? :man3:
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:01 pm

Roscoe

Have even seen CP3 play because if you did, you would not say what you said above. The guy doesn't dominate the ball. He facilitates. And he can't score? Lol. He can get his shot anytime he wants. He's just too unselfish. The guy is a complete pg and there is not one thing he can't do. And i honestly consider him the 2nd greatest pure pg ever outside of Magic. He's that good, u should watch him sometime.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:07 pm

Congo Cash wrote:Deron is a Sloan product, without him he's trash... I'll take an old Nash over Deron without hesitation, and no he is not one of the best PG in the league... :man10:

And you are considering Jennings and Bledsoe over him... :man3:

He wanted 12 names so that's what i gave him. Jennings was easily my last pick. And Nash is probably better for this team over Bled given Bled's youth but i can guarantee you he would have a HUGE impact for this team on defense and mnufacturing easy poonts off the break. I don't know if anyone has the numbers but on a per minute basis, he has to be right up there in steals. The guy is a monster on d and his athleticism is off the charts. Laker fans would love this mini Lebron like Clip fans do.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:16 pm

Lets Go Lakers wrote:
Congo Cash wrote:Deron is a Sloan product, without him he's trash... I'll take an old Nash over Deron without hesitation, and no he is not one of the best PG in the league... :man10:

And you are considering Jennings and Bledsoe over him... :man3:

He wanted 12 names so that's what i gave him. Jennings was easily my last pick. And Nash is probably better for this team over Bled given Bled's youth but i can guarantee you he would have a HUGE impact for this team on defense and mnufacturing easy poonts off the break. I don't know if anyone has the numbers but on a per minute basis, he has to be right up there in steals. The guy is a monster on d and his athleticism is off the charts. Laker fans would love this mini Lebron like Clip fans do.

You think Jennings and Bledsoe would be better for this team than Nash, yes or no?
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:44 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Lets Go Lakers wrote:
Congo Cash wrote:Deron is a Sloan product, without him he's trash... I'll take an old Nash over Deron without hesitation, and no he is not one of the best PG in the league... :man10:

And you are considering Jennings and Bledsoe over him... :man3:

He wanted 12 names so that's what i gave him. Jennings was easily my last pick. And Nash is probably better for this team over Bled given Bled's youth but i can guarantee you he would have a HUGE impact for this team on defense and mnufacturing easy poonts off the break. I don't know if anyone has the numbers but on a per minute basis, he has to be right up there in steals. The guy is a monster on d and his athleticism is off the charts. Laker fans would love this mini Lebron like Clip fans do.

You think Jennings and Bledsoe would be better for this team than Nash, yes or no?


Given Nash's ability to facilitate and make everyone better along with his ability to shoot, i would have to say no for both, even despite Nash's defensive woes.

But as I said before, Bled would bring an athleticism, energy and defensive element that this team sorely lacks. He would be all over the place, causing havoc for opposing PGs. He would be exciting the crowd with his energy and transition baskets.

But still, it's not enough to overcome Nash's amazing offensive abilities. Maybe next year, when Nash slows down even more and Bled continues to improve.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby JGC on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:47 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Lets Go Lakers wrote:
Congo Cash wrote:Deron is a Sloan product, without him he's trash... I'll take an old Nash over Deron without hesitation, and no he is not one of the best PG in the league... :man10:

And you are considering Jennings and Bledsoe over him... :man3:

He wanted 12 names so that's what i gave him. Jennings was easily my last pick. And Nash is probably better for this team over Bled given Bled's youth but i can guarantee you he would have a HUGE impact for this team on defense and mnufacturing easy poonts off the break. I don't know if anyone has the numbers but on a per minute basis, he has to be right up there in steals. The guy is a monster on d and his athleticism is off the charts. Laker fans would love this mini Lebron like Clip fans do.

You think Jennings and Bledsoe would be better for this team than Nash, yes or no?


The answer is obvious if we freeze time. I think it's not quite as obvious when we factor in age, team performance, contracts, etc.

If we're going to miss the playoffs every year for the next 3 years, then I would definitely rather have a young PG with upside over Nash. Nash does nothing for us if we're a bubble playoff team every year.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:48 pm

Lets Go Lakers wrote:
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Lets Go Lakers wrote:
Congo Cash wrote:Deron is a Sloan product, without him he's trash... I'll take an old Nash over Deron without hesitation, and no he is not one of the best PG in the league... :man10:

And you are considering Jennings and Bledsoe over him... :man3:

He wanted 12 names so that's what i gave him. Jennings was easily my last pick. And Nash is probably better for this team over Bled given Bled's youth but i can guarantee you he would have a HUGE impact for this team on defense and mnufacturing easy poonts off the break. I don't know if anyone has the numbers but on a per minute basis, he has to be right up there in steals. The guy is a monster on d and his athleticism is off the charts. Laker fans would love this mini Lebron like Clip fans do.

You think Jennings and Bledsoe would be better for this team than Nash, yes or no?


Given Nash's ability to facilitate and make everyone better along with his ability to shoot, i would have to say no for both, even despite Nash's defensive woes.

Then what everyone is waiting for is for you to back down from your previous statement that there 12 guys better than Nash or that are better fits for this team.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:50 pm

JGC wrote:
therealdeal wrote:You think Jennings and Bledsoe would be better for this team than Nash, yes or no?


The answer is obvious if we freeze time. I think it's not quite as obvious when we factor in age, team performance, contracts, etc.

If we're going to miss the playoffs every year for the next 3 years, then I would definitely rather have a young PG with upside over Nash. Nash does nothing for us if we're a bubble playoff team every year.

We're not going to miss the playoffs every year with this roster, c'mon. We're going to move Pau at some point and that'll help. And I still think there's a chance we make the playoffs this season.

But if we're looking into the future, you don't think a full training camp and a healthier roster would give this team a greater shot at making the playoffs and making a hard push in them? C'mon now.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:51 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Lets Go Lakers wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Lets Go Lakers wrote:
Congo Cash wrote:Deron is a Sloan product, without him he's trash... I'll take an old Nash over Deron without hesitation, and no he is not one of the best PG in the league... :man10:

And you are considering Jennings and Bledsoe over him... :man3:

He wanted 12 names so that's what i gave him. Jennings was easily my last pick. And Nash is probably better for this team over Bled given Bled's youth but i can guarantee you he would have a HUGE impact for this team on defense and mnufacturing easy poonts off the break. I don't know if anyone has the numbers but on a per minute basis, he has to be right up there in steals. The guy is a monster on d and his athleticism is off the charts. Laker fans would love this mini Lebron like Clip fans do.

You think Jennings and Bledsoe would be better for this team than Nash, yes or no?


Given Nash's ability to facilitate and make everyone better along with his ability to shoot, i would have to say no for both, even despite Nash's defensive woes.

Then what everyone is waiting for is for you to back down from your previous statement that there 12 guys better than Nash or that are better fits for this team.


The number 12 is the first number that popped into my head. It was a generalization. The actual number is closer to 6-8. So yeah, i back down if that's what you want me to say.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:00 pm

I don't necessarily care, but I know that a lot of people argued with you because of that number. I'm sure they appreciate you backing down. It takes humility. Props to you sir.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby phoenixrisingla on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:05 pm

Lets Go Lakers wrote:
The number 12 is the first number that popped into my head. It was a generalization. The actual number is closer to 6-8. So yeah, i back down if that's what you want me to say.


RESPECT sucka. :bow:

I think you made some good points and at the end of the day we're all here to try to find the truth by talking it out with each other. :jam2:
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby JGC on Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:53 pm

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JGC wrote:
therealdeal wrote:You think Jennings and Bledsoe would be better for this team than Nash, yes or no?


The answer is obvious if we freeze time. I think it's not quite as obvious when we factor in age, team performance, contracts, etc.

If we're going to miss the playoffs every year for the next 3 years, then I would definitely rather have a young PG with upside over Nash. Nash does nothing for us if we're a bubble playoff team every year.

We're not going to miss the playoffs every year with this roster, c'mon. We're going to move Pau at some point and that'll help. And I still think there's a chance we make the playoffs this season.

But if we're looking into the future, you don't think a full training camp and a healthier roster would give this team a greater shot at making the playoffs and making a hard push in them? C'mon now.


I don't think we'll miss the playoffs all the time, but, I do think the window is likely closed. Do I think the difference with these guys being where they are and being a championship team a full training camp and health? No, I don't. I think the problems are much deeper than that.

If you tell me a championship hinges on play at PG, then I would say we need to keep Nash over anyone younger. But if you told me we're not winning championships, then I would more than happily move Nash for someone younger who can help us on the next go around.

My feeling is that if you are THIS bad, you need wholesale changes plus time to get back to contention and then you have to deal with the older players being a little bit less effective than they are now.

I think we've got a LONG, LONG way to go in spite of training camp and injuries and coaching. Maybe it's my loss of faith in this team that has me thinking younger is the way to go. But if you felt as I did, that this window has closed, wouldn't you prefer a younger player now in lieu of Nash?
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:57 pm

phoenixrisingla wrote:
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Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


this might be the worst opinion i have ever heard


They say all opinions are equally valuable, but Rondo > CP3?? :man3:
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Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


this might be the worst opinion i have ever heard



First, Sack.... it was written..... :man12:

Second, now that you two have chimed in I know I'm on the right track...... :man10:

Yes.... I'd take Rondo over CP3.... mainly because I'm more interested in overall value than stats and popularity.... CP3 is overrated in a lot of respects....... Rondo is vastly underrated by most Fantasy Stat guys because he "can't shoot".... Otherwise he just raises his game every post season, can play real defense on multiple positions is the best true facilitator in the league and doesn't always have to have the ball to be effective. Things Paul can't/doesn't do.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby phoenixrisingla on Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:19 pm

Rooscooter wrote:

First, Sack.... it was written..... :man12:

Second, now that you two have chimed in I know I'm on the right track...... :man10:

Yes.... I'd take Rondo over CP3.... mainly because I'm more interested in overall value than stats and popularity.... CP3 is overrated in a lot of respects....... Rondo is vastly underrated by most Fantasy Stat guys because he "can't shoot".... Otherwise he just raises his game every post season, can play real defense on multiple positions is the best true facilitator in the league and doesn't always have to have the ball to be effective. Things Paul can't/doesn't do.


Cute personal attack, really. :nono2:

Anyway, if you're going to be sensitive about getting called out, a good place to start is by not making ridiculous statements with no information.

As for the end of your post, although I agree that Rondo is underrated, he 100% IS ball dominant. Plus not as efficient scorer or facilitator (although his assist numbers are great this year), so wrong on ALL accounts.

CP3 > Rondo

Just because its obvious, doesnt mean its not true. :jam2:
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:40 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
phoenixrisingla wrote:
JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


this might be the worst opinion i have ever heard


They say all opinions are equally valuable, but Rondo > CP3?? :man3:
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Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


this might be the worst opinion i have ever heard



First, Sack.... it was written..... :man12:

Second, now that you two have chimed in I know I'm on the right track...... :man10:

Yes.... I'd take Rondo over CP3.... mainly because I'm more interested in overall value than stats and popularity.... CP3 is overrated in a lot of respects....... Rondo is vastly underrated by most Fantasy Stat guys because he "can't shoot".... Otherwise he just raises his game every post season, can play real defense on multiple positions is the best true facilitator in the league and doesn't always have to have the ball to be effective. Things Paul can't/doesn't do.


Please do elaborate on this supposed superior "overall value" that Rondo brings than Paul doesn't. Using vagaries like that won't fly.

I like how you to try to brush aside "can't shoot" like that doesn't matter. A PG that can't shoot and handles the ball the majority of the time is a huge detriment to his team because it allows the defense to play off him and makes things much harder on his teammates.

And no he doesn't raise his game "every" post season. He played decently in last years PS but he still wasn't even the best player on his team. He's routinely posts barely 50% TS year after year which you can't ignore.

And statements like this, "best true facilitator in the league"

Just make me LOL. Please explain to me what the hell that even means. Rondo is a PG who is a known stat padder that does a great job of passing up layups and getting his teammates contested long 2 pt jumpers. For the supposed "best facilitator" in the league he sure does a horrendous job of facilitating his team's offense by regularly leading them to a bottom tier offense in the league. If this is your definition of a "true facilitator" then I would hate to see your all time PG list.

If anything Rondo is overrated because people value his assists way too much. I honestly don't know how you come to your conclusions, some of your opinions are just so strange I feel like you create them out of a necessity to be different.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:00 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
phoenixrisingla wrote:
JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


this might be the worst opinion i have ever heard


They say all opinions are equally valuable, but Rondo > CP3?? :man3:
JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
Rondo and CP3 are the only ones who I would term "Better for this team"..... of those two I'd take Rondo everyday and any day over CP3.


this might be the worst opinion i have ever heard



First, Sack.... it was written..... :man12:

Second, now that you two have chimed in I know I'm on the right track...... :man10:

Yes.... I'd take Rondo over CP3.... mainly because I'm more interested in overall value than stats and popularity.... CP3 is overrated in a lot of respects....... Rondo is vastly underrated by most Fantasy Stat guys because he "can't shoot".... Otherwise he just raises his game every post season, can play real defense on multiple positions is the best true facilitator in the league and doesn't always have to have the ball to be effective. Things Paul can't/doesn't do.


Please do elaborate on this supposed superior "overall value" that Rondo brings than Paul doesn't. Using vagaries like that won't fly.

I like how you to try to brush aside "can't shoot" like that doesn't matter. A PG that can't shoot and handles the ball the majority of the time is a huge detriment to his team because it allows the defense to play off him and makes things much harder on his teammates.

And no he doesn't raise his game "every" post season. He played decently in last years PS but he still wasn't even the best player on his team. He's routinely posts barely 50% TS year after year which you can't ignore.

And statements like this, "best true facilitator in the league"

Just make me LOL. Please explain to me what the hell that even means. Rondo is a PG who is a known stat padder that does a great job of passing up layups and getting his teammates contested long 2 pt jumpers. For the supposed "best facilitator" in the league he sure does a horrendous job of facilitating his team's offense by regularly leading them to a bottom tier offense in the league. If this is your definition of a "true facilitator" then I would hate to see your all time PG list.

If anything Rondo is overrated because people value his assists way too much. I honestly don't know how you come to your conclusions, some of your opinions are just so strange I feel like you create them out of a necessity to be different.


Did you even read my posts?...... Chris Paul is a one way player.... he cannot defend a 2 or a 3.... As for "shooting" (which I put is quotes for a reason.... especially for a stat guy like you... :man12: ) you need to see who is shooting a higher percentage.... I know that means a lot to you because we have to read your constant crap flipped toward Kobe for shooting "efficiency" and percentages...

Rondo elevates his game when it counts.... he's proven it from his first couple years in the league. Paul is far more ball dominant and when he doesn't have the ball he doesn't do much to help his team. Rondo rebounds, is an extremely underrated player without the ball, sets great screens and can defend 3 positions.... I know there is no "stat" for that so if you can't run it through a Fantasy Filter you wont' believe it..... :man10:

Paul's is a horrible defender other than his off ball steals.... he is non existent without the ball.... he isn't a reliable rebounder even for his position and outside of the Pick and Roll (which is 90% of what he's done in his career) he has limited value in a multifaceted offense with other stars. You do remember that we are talking about a team with Howard and Kobe right?....

Paul is probably the best at running the pick and roll in the league (Nash is still pretty good) but beyond that he's not the best an any other facet of being a Point Guard. Rondo is much better on the break than Paul for example.... so are a number of other point guards for that matter.

As for how I come to my conclusions.... 40 years of playing the game at a competitive level, 45 years of watching the game and 18 years of coaching the game at various levels from High School to AAU. What you got?.......
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Armani on Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:45 pm

Rondo isn't the best player on Boston, and Celtics fans have seriously started debating if he's a franchise player... I have seen it on forums with sensible posters.

His main problem is that.... he can't shoot. It's easy to take him off his game. Remember Kobe's defense on Rondo in 2010 Finals? IT STILL HAPPENS. Defenders ROUTINELY sag off of him because his jumper isn't serviceable. So? Thing is... he's not good at shooting FT's either. So consistently attacking the basket won't do him much good. So, how's he going to score... at all?

His main value comes from his passing, and the thing is, he doesn't make players around him better. They perform at the same level when he's out and when he's in. Boston's offense doesn't see much of a difference. The majority of Celtics fans think that 36 year old Garnett has been more valuable to the team this year... and his on/off court impact backs it up.

Rondo's is a good big game performer, as stated before... and that's why he's arguably a Top 5 PG, but he's not the kind of superstar that Chris Paul is, nowhere close. They are two entirely different levels of players. His offensive weaknesses are so glaring that 38 year old Nash is actually having a far higher impact on court than Rondo is right now.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Armani on Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:47 pm

Oh, and this topic has gone way off topic... we're debating Point Guards now. :man10:
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Pig Miller on Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:00 pm

i'll take d12. even if he's not a franchise player, he's certainly would be the 2nd best player on any team and still a great defensive anchor in a league where guards tear through the lane.

if kobe is serious about hanging it up next year, i wouldn't sacrifice 6-8 years of dwight for one more season of kobe.
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Re: Dwight or Kobe?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:10 pm

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You really should stop talking about Paul because the more you do, the more you kill your credibility. You really have no idea. Paul is a great defender PERIOD. He can man up, he can roam and he can geneate steals better than anyone. The guy is 6'0", who cares if he can't guard 3's? Lol. Paul has no weakness in his game. Zero. Unless if you expect him to guard Durant. Lol. But in terms of what you expect from a pg, he has no weakness and excels at almost everything. He almost never turns the ball over and when he does, you are surprised. The guy can facilitate or take over offensively. He simply chooses what the team needs. Yes, he is that good in that he can get to the basket and get his own shot almost anytime he wants. Rhondo isn't on Paul's level. Rhondo is a jack of all traits type pg. He fills up the stat sheets but he ain't on Paul's level in terms of impact on your team. Just do me a favor and watch him play instead of looking at the stats. Stats don't tell the story of how he controls the game and keeps everyone in check and elevates everyone's game.
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