I think this is a pretty ridiculous, and almost angering thread to be honest. Not because of the question asked at all, it's a legit question to ask when looking to our future form here on out, but because of the OP's clear agenda. You make a thread asking which player we take going forward, but you want only one answer coming into it, and if that answer isn't given you accuse the poster of being a Kobe first fan, not all about the Lakers, having their loyalty in the wrong place. Why ask the question if you only want one answer? To prove some point to yourself that you know how everyone here thinks or what type of fan they are and that only you are the one above it all and in the right, and/or to split the board into "fanboy" groups as Roos brought up obviously. Pretty sad if you ask me, and it's not like I'm pulling this out of thin air, you pretty much said it yourself
Lets Go Lakers wrote:If you are a fan of the team before a fan of Kobe, i don't see how you can logically stick with Kobe if you had to pick one.
Lets Go Lakers wrote:I'm pretty surprised at some of the replies and how offended some of you are. I thought the answer is a no brainer (in favor of Dwight) when you look at what's best for the franchise moving forward but i guess loyalty runs deep.
So if we pick Kobe we're not a fan of the Lakers first, we're not logical, and only your answer if the correct one and best for the franchise, but we're blinded by loyalty to Kobe. Nice try man. And as for this
Lets Go Lakers wrote:Howard is a franchise player. Just as Bynum is a franchise player when healthy. You don't need to be an all time great to be a franchise player, just a dominant player. Yeah, he lacks an offensive game but his fortay is defense, rebounding and putbacks. You pair him with a great PG and he would thrive.
When healthy, Dwight is a top 3 player IMO. Top 5 at worst.
Howard IS a franchise player, if you don't really care about your franchise winning a championship. Howard the way he is now is never going to be the number one star on a championship team, you put a guy like LeBron next to him sure, but then he's not the number one guy. He can't make free throws, his offense is extremely limited, he never puts up even 20 PPG, and has to me shown he can't be a THE go-to guy. You show me another guy that has those same flaws that has won a championship as the franchise player and I will agree that Howard can do the same. Same goes for Bynum, show me proof of him being a franchise player that can actually win anything and I'll agree.
If Howard is top 5, Kobe's still ahead of him on that list, so I still take Kobe going forward. This year it's LeBron, Durant, Melo, Kobe, and you can 'pick em' from there, but I'm not sure Dwight has played well enough to earn that 5th spot, might go to Chris Paul right now. You say when healthy, ok well, we have no idea if Dwight will ever be the same again, and if him being great depends that much on athleticism, well then once again you're in trouble going forward choosing him as your franchise player because eventually he's gonna lose that anyway. Kobe lost that a while ago and his game hasn't suffered a bit, even his post game is better than Howard's, the best center in the NBA. Give me 2 seasons of Kobe Bryant, proven winner, proven champion, still playing at an elite level, over a 4 year max contract of Dwight Howard, who may or may not lead you to anything. So go ahead and tell me I'm still wrong, I know you won't be swayed by anyone's opinion here, your agenda is clear. I'll take the guy who has proven he can win, you take the guy who might be able to win if he has enough of the right players around him, players to cover for all his weaknesses and flaws. I'll roll with Kobe for 2 seasons and always have that chance to win that he gives you and then take my chances in free agency over choosing Dwight and most likely not winning a thing. So few players really and truly have what it takes to be champions, it's why the same players and franchises are almost always the ones that win it, and I'm just not seeing what it takes in Dwight to get the job done in the end.