Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

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Postby borri on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:13 pm

There's no need to ask Hakeem. Just train with Kobe.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby trodgers on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:15 pm

I've given in. I'm on board with Howard. I accept that he is our Center of the future, and he's probably our marquee name of the future. I just want him to refine his post game a bit.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby jbiggs on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:09 pm

in regards to howard training with kareem i know they have at least discussed it... whether it will happen remains to be seen...

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2012/09/dwight-howard-to-work-out-with-kareem-abdul-jabbar/

Dwight Howard to Work Out With Kareem Abdul-Jabbar


by Eldon Khorshidi | @eldonadam

Lakers center Dwight Howard has never been shy to reach out to former players, in an effort to gain some insight and work on his game. A few summers ago, Howard seeked out, and then trained with, Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon, to improve his footwork and expand his offensive repertoire.

And now, after only a few weeks in Hollywood, Howard will yet again get in the gym with a storied big man. This time, it’s Laker legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. After Howard mentioned on Twitter that he’d like to work out with Abdul-Jabbar, things came together quickly. On Monday, merely a day later, Howard and Abdul-Jabbar met face to face, and began to forge what is expected to be a long-standing relationship.

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“Just sat down with @kaj33,” Howard tweeted after the meeting. “Man God is so good. Was in tears. What a blessing. This is like a dream come true. Go Lakers.” Howard then tweeted a picture of the two of them together with the caption, “Me and @kaj33 together. For many years to come.” The “many years to come” will surely come as music to the ears of Lakers fans worried that Howard might leave after this season when he becomes an unrestricted free agent. Howard said he has not talked about an extension with the Lakers and won’t do so until this season is over. After the meeting, Abdul-Jabbar tweeted the same picture of the two centers and wrote, “#Dwight Howard Great meeting you today – Laker Nation is in great hands for years to come. Now lets WIN a championship.” Abdul-Jabbar added, “#DwightHoward thankful to impart my knowledge to a highly-motivated, gifted, athlete with integrity and focus on the prize – a championship!” The meeting occurred thanks to a simple question asked of Howard by a fan on Twitter. Howard was asked if he was going to work out with Abdul-Jabbar. “I am,” Howard responded. “When I am released.” Howard was referring to getting clearance from his doctors to return to the court after undergoing back surgery in April. The six-time All-Star hopes to be back some time in October. Abdul-Jabbar responded to Howard’s tweet with a tweet of his own on Monday. “Lots of news about me and DH – would be great to coach him but as of now still haven’t met him,” Abdul-Jabbar worked with Andrew Bynum, who was traded to the Philadelphia 76ers last month in the four-team deal that brought Howard to Los Angeles, as a special assistant coach from 2005-09. The two fell out of favor in 2009, when Bynum reportedly told Phil Jackson and the Lakers’ coaching staff that he no longer wanted to work with the NBA’s all-time scoring leader.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby therealdeal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:15 pm

He ought to get Shaq, Hakeem, and Kareem all in one gym and just rotate between the three of them all summer.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby Lakerjones on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:16 pm

He needs the work. Man, he's a brick around the rim. Just awful for the most part.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby therealdeal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:17 pm

Lakerjones wrote:He needs the work. Man, he's a brick around the rim. Just awful for the most part.

His feet looked nice today, but every shot looked like it was flung out of some kind of medieval device.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby Lakerjones on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:24 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:He needs the work. Man, he's a brick around the rim. Just awful for the most part.

His feet looked nice today, but every shot looked like it was flung out of some kind of medieval device.


He might actually have the worst touch I've ever seen. Especially with his right. At least with the left he seems to be able to do that running hook pretty well.

BTW you cracked me the heck up with that line!! :man10:
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:25 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:He needs the work. Man, he's a brick around the rim. Just awful for the most part.

His feet looked nice today, but every shot looked like it was flung out of some kind of medieval device.

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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby therealdeal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:30 pm

Lakerjones wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:He needs the work. Man, he's a brick around the rim. Just awful for the most part.

His feet looked nice today, but every shot looked like it was flung out of some kind of medieval device.


He might actually have the worst touch I've ever seen. Especially with his right. At least with the left he seems to be able to do that running hook pretty well.

BTW you cracked me the heck up with that line!! :man10:

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Yeah I mean it's weird because sometimes he'll make this good move and have a pretty clean look and it'll just airball or it'll smash off the glass... It's really strange. I guess there's good progress in that he's actually moving well around the rim now?

yunowin- :man10: nice.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby last stand on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:35 pm

I'm not so sure about shaq. He was skilled but let's be real. He wasn't as skilled as Kareem or Hakeem or even Duncan

His greatest skill will always be that he was 7-1 350lbs. Unless his job is to get Dwight to 320lbs I'm not sure hes really that beneficial compared to Kareem and Hakeem
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:37 pm

shaq was a sharpshooter in the post compared to dwight. yea he was a behemoth, but he actually had skill. he could still teach howard a lot. but that would never happen because i don't think either guy would be comfortable with that
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby therealdeal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:45 pm

lakersyunowin wrote:shaq was a sharpshooter in the post compared to dwight. yea he was a behemoth, but he actually had skill. he could still teach howard a lot. but that would never happen because i don't think either guy would be comfortable with that

Shaq could teach him about body placement. About how and when to use his amazing strength and power in the post. Dwight is not Shaq, but he's the closest thing in this era.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby hollywood swinger on Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:02 am

too bad hakeem can't teach him soft shooting touch around the rim. D12 is horrible with bank shoots and simple 2 ft shots.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby JSM on Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:05 am

Fantastic news. Even if it's only for a very limited amount of time, I think it will help him regain confidence in his game.


As far as the Shaq suggestions: Does anyone actually believe Shaq would help him do anything, ever? He's never given back to the league as a teacher or mentor, he's not about to assist the person he hates more than anyone to ever play in the NBA. He wants Dwight to fail, not succeed. If Shaq told him anything, Dwight would be best off to do the polar opposite.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby khmrP on Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:45 pm

might want to reach out to Pau as well, outside of getting pushed around on the block I'd say Pau has some of the best post games for any bigs right now.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:53 pm

This is exactly what I wanted to here. I am all for this. Good for him.

Since the injury he probably realizes he is susceptible to injury. Maybe the injury will make him actually practice what he learns so he can rely on some fundamentals instead of athleticism.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:05 pm

I agree he should work with Shaq too.. When Dwight's 100% he's the biggest force in the paint since Shaq. Who better to learn how to use that power from.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby Center Court on Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:01 pm

like realdeal said, rotate between Shaq, Hakeem, and Cap.

Hakeem teaches him footwork, skilled moves, and smarts

Karreem teaches him how to read the game and shot control

Shaq teaches him brute strength, using his body, establishing low positioning,
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:37 pm

If you watch his shots carefully he launches the ball off his palm instead of his finger tips. You can't learn touch shot putting the ball which is kind of what he is doing.

Actually it reminds me of a lot of heavy weightlifters as their wrists become very inflexible due to gripping heavy bars. Gaining flexibility in his wrists and fingers would go a long way to improving his game. He's able to create some space with the rudimentary moves he has now.... it's the shot making thats missing and anyone who's played the game knows the difference in making and missing shots is in the release.

Kareem's yoga and martial arts approach would help him with these aspects the most. I actually think a large physical player needs to learn the opposite approach and vice versa......

His positioning before he even gets the ball (another fundamental) is very poor as well. That is one thing Shaq was great at as well as Kareem and Hakeem. He really needs coaching from the ground up on how to approach the post game. His immense athleticism has gotten him a long way but as we can see..... even the slightest reversion in that athleticism has a huge effect on his overall effectiveness.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby LTLakerFan on Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:58 pm

Lakerjones wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:He needs the work. Man, he's a brick around the rim. Just awful for the most part.

His feet looked nice today, but every shot looked like it was flung out of some kind of medieval device.


He might actually have the worst touch I've ever seen. Especially with his right. At least with the left he seems to be able to do that running hook pretty well.

BTW you cracked me the heck up with that line!! :man10:


Well.....don't forget we had that hilarious GIF of Kwame shooting a layup..... not for no reason :man10:
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby gcclaker on Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:55 pm

lakersyunowin wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:He needs the work. Man, he's a brick around the rim. Just awful for the most part.

His feet looked nice today, but every shot looked like it was flung out of some kind of medieval device.

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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby karacha on Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:18 pm

JSM wrote:As far as the Shaq suggestions: Does anyone actually believe Shaq would help him do anything, ever? He's never given back to the league as a teacher or mentor, he's not about to assist the person he hates more than anyone to ever play in the NBA. He wants Dwight to fail, not succeed. If Shaq told him anything, Dwight would be best off to do the polar opposite.


Well, at least Shaq could help him with his free throws and...


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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:25 pm

LTLakerFan wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:He needs the work. Man, he's a brick around the rim. Just awful for the most part.

His feet looked nice today, but every shot looked like it was flung out of some kind of medieval device.


He might actually have the worst touch I've ever seen. Especially with his right. At least with the left he seems to be able to do that running hook pretty well.

BTW you cracked me the heck up with that line!! :man10:


Well.....don't forget we had that hilarious GIF of Kwame shooting a layup..... not for no reason :man10:


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Dwight does actually look pretty damn good comparatively. Mainly it's Dwight's right hand (which I did not know until talked about recently is his off hand, but the one he shoots with mostly because of that wrist injury he had early in his life) that is the issue. As Roo said, he has zero touch with that right. Just none at all. As mentioned he just shot puts that thing with his right. It's Clank Fu. But you know, he's pretty good with that left. I'm actually surprised that he doesn't try to relearn shooting with his left as it's his dominant hand and he's good with it. Could help his free throwing even maybe? He's still a young-ish player. Work more on that left Dwight! That should be his go to.
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby LakerFanIam on Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:36 pm

Maybe Hakeem can teach him not to dribble the ball three feet out in front of him & waist high when trying to make a post move...
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Re: Dwight To Train With Hakeem Again In Offseason

Postby Kit on Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:43 pm

What happened to training with the captain?
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