Earl Clark Discussion: Cavs sign Clark 2 yrs 9 mil (p. 54)

Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:54 am

He needs to cut down on the rushed long 2s. They are terrible shots that should be taken only as a last resort
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby lakersin4 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:17 pm

Hope he improves his drive in the offseason. If he can start beating more guys off the dribble & finishing he'd be an even better fit.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby Weezy on Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:22 pm

The Laker Link wrote:Was the title of the post supposed to make me think of Simpsons Treehouse of Horror V?


That's how I read it, made me laugh. As long as we never see it finished, "fading.. fading.. gone", I'm good. :mhihi:
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby trodgers on Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:04 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:He needs to cut down on the rushed long 2s. They are terrible shots that should be taken only as a last resort

I agree. He can take it to the rim or slow it down. He comes up with sweet hustle plays and then immediately launches sometimes, resulting in transition the other way.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby therealdeal on Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:05 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:
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therealdeal wrote:I liked watching him take that little pump fake- pull up jumper. It was really smooth and since he's a set shooter, it'll help him adapt to guys flying at him. He doesn't get a whole lot of air on his jump shot, but his release is quicker than it's ever been and that'll help.

I also like the way he drives. I think he's athletic enough to throw down on guys, but most of the time he finds the angle and maneuvers around the pressure. He had that excellent rebound and put back through three Mavs for the and-one.


What Earl needs to get a "handle" of is his ball control. If can develop his dribbling skills enough to drive with his head up, he can be another Lamar.


Well I don't know about that. Lamar had great court vision too. I think Earl could be a very solid player though if he could just do a couple more things. As he is he's a great bench piece and a border-line starter. He just has to get his conditioning in the right place.


I think Earl is an underrated passer. He doesn't throw dimes like Lamar, but he makes the right pass. With improved handles, his head up, his vision would be much improved.

So far, hopin this kid stays.

I don't know. I just feel like Earl's a different player. Odom was never the shooter that Earl has apparently become. And he was a much better driver/passer. Defensively Earl is better than Odom.

I think Earl can become a really nice piece, just a different type of player is all. Definitely a keeper.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby trodgers on Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:10 pm

Clark reminds me a bit more of a poor man's Ibaka than Odom.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby therealdeal on Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:05 pm

trodgers wrote:Clark reminds me a bit more of a poor man's Ibaka than Odom.

Probably a better comparison. I was trying to think of a particular person, but he's really just a throw back kind of player. Works hard on the boards and on defense and just makes his open shots (when he's healthy).

Real solid type of guy.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby karacha on Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:48 pm

Yes, except he would definitely need to put on some weight to be closer to Ibaka. He shoots better though. To me, Easy looks like a player who somehow got transplanted here from the 1980's. Tall, lean, hustles, plays tough... I don't know, maybe it's a totally random observation, but you don't see too many players like that anymore.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:03 pm

I thought they had a good call re: Clark on 710 today. Not sure who said it but they mentioned he was kind of like AC Green, and I definitely agree with that. A hustle, effort, kind of PF with some skill. Gets boards, plays D, hits the open shot, and able to move without the ball.

I think the AC Green comparison is way more apt for Clark than Odom (HIGHLY skilled and talented player) or Chewbacca (not so skilled but athletically outstanding, shot blocker extraordinaire). Clark is more of an all around type, not so specialized in skill set or advanced in athleticism as those guys.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby JSM on Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:10 pm

Ridiculously productive game against the Mavs -- hit some big shots, played Dirk extremely well, and ripped rebound after rebound out of the air (he even stole a few boards from Dwight). He doesn't have to put up those numbers, but that's the effort and energy we HAVE to get out of him going forward. Him pulling a Casper (or an Odom) out there really hurts us, especially when you know what he's capable of with such a great motor. I hope this was a return to form and not false hope.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby Psychobroker on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:06 pm

^ The one thing I noticed most last night was his mobility.. He was moving around a lot better and getting more lift in general. I'm thinking the ankle sprain took more out of him than we knew, so hopefully he's back to form.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby karacha on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:09 pm

I agree. His injury obviously slowed him down considerably.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby JSM on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:15 pm

Pincus: Earl Clark is adjusting to return to the bench


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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby noobiew on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:57 pm

trodgers wrote:Clark reminds me a bit more of a poor man's Ibaka than Odom.


No, he is a hybrid and mixture of Odom and Ariza. :man5:
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:58 pm

I bet our defense would be pretty ridiculous if we had the luxury of Clark/Hill/D12 on the court at the same time. They could cover for Kobe and Nash, while all patrolling the paint.

At least we can look forward to it next year. :man1:
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:18 pm

hill clark dwight combo will be unreal after a full training camp together. i think its important to keep them 3 with kobe and nash. the rest are probably expendable. although id like to see jamison and meeks back
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby karacha on Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:20 pm

Jamison should absolutely stay -- if he wants to stay. For that money, you can't find anyone better in this league.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby Battle Tested20 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:01 pm

Nuggets taking that game by the throat and squeezing now

Good job Nuggets, its not over yet but they are playing great. Up by 18 points now
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:05 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:Nuggets taking that game by the throat and squeezing now

Good job Nuggets, its not over yet but they are playing great. Up by 18 points now


I can see Earl being happy about this. :man1:
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby Battle Tested20 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:08 pm

Now we just have to do our part and keep winning.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby karacha on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:29 pm

Yeah, I'm not sure if you are posting in the right thread...
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby lakersin4 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:25 pm

Doc Brown wrote:I bet our defense would be pretty ridiculous if we had the luxury of Clark/Hill/D12 on the court at the same time. They could cover for Kobe and Nash, while all patrolling the paint.

At least we can look forward to it next year. :man1:

Our transition D wouldn't improve any that's for sure. Next season I'd like to see Hill playing the type of role Pau has off the bench.. Taking all of the backup C minutes + some PF. Eark & another young athletic tweener that's quick enough to guard SF's & get back in transition. We have the Allstar core we just need to get with the trend & have a good small lineup that can run teams out of the gym while still playing D & rebounding. We can be really good next year with the right Pau trade.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:21 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:Now we just have to do our part and keep winning.


Earl approves this post...Now Clark will keep winning
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby purp n gold on Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:25 am

Odom had guard-caliber handles & passing. Clark can throw a sound pass, but I think his ball handling might be sub-par, even for his position. Clark has far better perimeter defense, but Odom defended the post better. If anything, I think Clark has more hustle than Odom. Odom continually tried to let the game come to him naturally, at times to the team's detriment. Clark creates 2-3 plays a game through hustle & 2nd chance effort.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: Fading... RISING!

Postby trodgers on Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:50 am

I don't know what about Clark's game reminds people of Odom. Odom had a decent post game (Clark doesn't have inside moves). Odom could dribble (Clark can't). Odom could pass and had vision (Clark doesn't have those things). He's a better defender than Odom ever was.

I think I mostly agree with purp n gold's assessment of Odom.
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