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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby laker911 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:58 am

This guy has been awesome for us. Hope he can keep it up. :jam2:
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:01 am

Doc Brown wrote:His passes are funny because they are textbook on how to throw them. Thumbs down, two hands, perfect form every time. Rarity in the league these days.

And besides Nash, Kobe, he's the only person on the team that can get from the 3 point line to the rim in 1-2 dribbles and finish, which is always a plus.


You hit upon his biggest impact on the offensive end IMO. We have so few people that can even get to the rim much less finish. He puts pressure on the defense in three ways when he has the ball 20 feet from the hoop... shoot, pass, drive. He's taken opposing teams by surprise. It will be interesting to see if his success changes how teams play us and how he adjusts if they do.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:15 am

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Doc Brown wrote:His passes are funny because they are textbook on how to throw them. Thumbs down, two hands, perfect form every time. Rarity in the league these days.

And besides Nash, Kobe, he's the only person on the team that can get from the 3 point line to the rim in 1-2 dribbles and finish, which is always a plus.


You hit upon his biggest impact on the offensive end IMO. We have so few people that can even get to the rim much less finish. He puts pressure on the defense in three ways when he has the ball 20 feet from the hoop... shoot, pass, drive. He's taken opposing teams by surprise. It will be interesting to see if his success changes how teams play us and how he adjusts if they do.

To be fair to him, teams CAN'T adjust to him. :man10:

He's been doing this now for a while and teams still haven't really given him any thought and I think it's because they can't really afford to. They can leave him open because if they don't, they're leaving Kobe or Artest or Steve or Dwight open and Clark is easily the best option to have the ball in his hands.

All he needs to do is make the right decisions and he's been doing it so far this season.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby Ice-Fire on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:36 am

I still do not get why we have not yet traded Ebanks for a 2nd round pick or just cut him. I'm sure a young team is craving for some athleticism at the 3 spot and Ebanks provides that.

Get this cancer off our team ASAP.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:39 am

Man if we still had Hill available to bring his energy and game into this new offensive and defensive mix......

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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:40 am

Ice-Fire wrote:I still do not get why we have not yet traded Ebanks for a 2nd round pick or just cut him. I'm sure a young team is craving for some athleticism at the 3 spot and Ebanks provides that.

Get this cancer off our team ASAP.


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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:47 am

Yeah what? :man10:

The guy made one comment a week ago about being invisible in the locker room but since when does that make him a cancer? Idiot? Sure. Cancer? I don't see it.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:49 am

bruddahmanmatt wrote:Incredibly underrated dive man. He's a lot like Matt Barnes in the way he knows precisely when and where to make his cuts only he actually finishes, can hit from three consistently and is a superior athlete.


He really is. That's one of the reasons he can play well alongside D12 or Pau. Not disparaging Hill in anyway because I love the guy's play, but Clark is more versatile, IMO. Clark is a true starting PF in this league and I think Hill is a phenomenal guy off the bench.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby The Rock on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:52 am

I wonder if we could make him defend Point Guards to save Kobe's legs?? Kobe can probably go back to guarding these guys in the 4th but this would be huge. I think the problem with that is where would we hide Nash

LIke for example tonight...Dwight vs Gortat, Ron or Pau vs Scola, Kobe vs Dudley/PJ Tucker, Clark vs Dragic and Nash vs Shannon Brown
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:02 am

therealdeal wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:His passes are funny because they are textbook on how to throw them. Thumbs down, two hands, perfect form every time. Rarity in the league these days.

And besides Nash, Kobe, he's the only person on the team that can get from the 3 point line to the rim in 1-2 dribbles and finish, which is always a plus.


You hit upon his biggest impact on the offensive end IMO. We have so few people that can even get to the rim much less finish. He puts pressure on the defense in three ways when he has the ball 20 feet from the hoop... shoot, pass, drive. He's taken opposing teams by surprise. It will be interesting to see if his success changes how teams play us and how he adjusts if they do.

To be fair to him, teams CAN'T adjust to him. :man10:

He's been doing this now for a while and teams still haven't really given him any thought and I think it's because they can't really afford to. They can leave him open because if they don't, they're leaving Kobe or Artest or Steve or Dwight open and Clark is easily the best option to have the ball in his hands.

All he needs to do is make the right decisions and he's been doing it so far this season.


It's a little like what happened last year with Sessions. He came here, added a new dynamic to our team.... had success. Then the league got some tape.... adjusted to him and he became a little less effective. He was put in pick and roll situations every time he was on the floor because he had issues (being kind) on defense. They began to play us differently on offense as well.

Clark is in a little better situation than Sessions was in that he's fairly well rounded as a player. His defense is pretty good and his outside shooting and playing off the ball in combination makes hard to defend..... especially as the 5th "option".

WTS.... he won't be an afterthought in opposing teams game plans long if he keeps being a "difference maker" in this league. We'll see if they start playing Kobe differently as well now that he's in "facilitator" mode.

He looks like a decent player that fell through the cracks..... two years and we find two of them.... lucky or good?
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby gcclaker on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:12 am

^Lucky. Sometimes other teams where these diamonds in the rough come from NEVER figured out how to use them in their sets, not placed in situations to succeed or were buried behind more established players.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:16 am

Well the difference is Sessions shied away as soon as Kobe said a word to him, he didn't stand up tall when it counted. Clark almost doesn't have to worry about that because he's not the PG. Clark just has to play well off the ball and he seems so far to be able to do that quite well.

And if teams start staying home on him, then we're talking about teams leaving either Nash, Artest (corner), Howard, or Kobe one-on-one. I like the odds.

I would say Mitch does an excellent job of finding players that seem like they need a shot. Guys hungry to show they're worth something. Then we milk them, let them go find a big contract, and get another one from some other team. :man10:
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:17 am

gcclaker wrote:^Lucky. Sometimes other teams where these diamonds in the rough come from NEVER figured out how to use them in their sets, not placed in situations to succeed or were buried behind more established players.


Yeah, why play Clark when you have GLEN DAVIS AND Q-RICH? :man10:
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby gcclaker on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:20 am

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gcclaker wrote:^Lucky. Sometimes other teams where these diamonds in the rough come from NEVER figured out how to use them in their sets, not placed in situations to succeed or were buried behind more established players.


Yeah, why play Clark when you have GLEN DAVIS AND Q-RICH? :man10:

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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:21 am

therealdeal wrote:Well the difference is Sessions shied away as soon as Kobe said a word to him, he didn't stand up tall when it counted. Clark almost doesn't have to worry about that because he's not the PG. Clark just has to play well off the ball and he seems so far to be able to do that quite well.

And if teams start staying home on him, then we're talking about teams leaving either Nash, Artest (corner), Howard, or Kobe one-on-one. I like the odds.

I would say Mitch does an excellent job of finding players that seem like they need a shot. Guys hungry to show they're worth something. Then we milk them, let them go find a big contract, and get another one from some other team. :man10:


Agreed, Clark is not being asked to be a playmaker the way Ramon was, all he has to do is have his hands up, be ready for the pass and make the right decision (shoot or slash). Ramon on the other hand was asked to orchestrate the offense and find a way to co-exist with an extremely ball dominant player. Being a terrific off-ball player is what ultimately makes things for Clark way easier than they ever were for Ramon.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:23 am

gcclaker wrote:
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gcclaker wrote:^Lucky. Sometimes other teams where these diamonds in the rough come from NEVER figured out how to use them in their sets, not placed in situations to succeed or were buried behind more established players.


Yeah, why play Clark when you have GLEN DAVIS AND Q-RICH? :man10:

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I mean I can understand not getting run with us to start the season given the names on our roster (MWP, Jamison, Hill, Gasol etc...), but to not even get a little bit of PT alongside those two...SVG F'ed up, at least a little bit anyway. Ryan Anderson broke out last season but there were times when Turkoglu made you go "WTF?"
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby charvin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:23 am

Roo - I think the difference between Clark and Session's situations is that they play different positions. It is much easier to isolate a PG because they are the smallest players and while fast, they can't defend outside the PG/SG position for the most part (Delonte West being an exception because he loves to play physical) due to their size.

You noted that Clark is a fairly well rounded player in that he is somewhat quick enough to defend against the guards, and because he grew up playing the guard spot, he possesses guard skills and is better at it than most players for his spot.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby gcclaker on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:29 am

bruddahmanmatt wrote:
gcclaker wrote:
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gcclaker wrote:^Lucky. Sometimes other teams where these diamonds in the rough come from NEVER figured out how to use them in their sets, not placed in situations to succeed or were buried behind more established players.

Yeah, why play Clark when you have GLEN DAVIS AND Q-RICH? :man10:

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I mean I can understand not getting run with us to start the season given the names on our roster (MWP, Jamison, Hill, Gasol etc...), but to not even get a little bit of PT alongside those two...SVG F'ed up.

Now that you bring that up. Davis was established...at the buffet table. Richardson? With pop singer Brandy I suppose. I do give the latter mad props for calling out Pierce and Garnett as "actresses'...

Clark for a player his size is fluid out there and has a motor on him. He doesn't have to plays run for him but makes it on his own. There was a telling Magic footage on Clark earlier on this thread where there he showed what he was capable of. Maybe he could not sustain it after that burst then was relegated to the bench. Healthy minutes is helping him figure out what to do on the floor. Now, if he can only remember the game is in quarters and not halves...he'll be fine. LOL.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:30 am

bruddahmanmatt wrote:
gcclaker wrote:
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gcclaker wrote:^Lucky. Sometimes other teams where these diamonds in the rough come from NEVER figured out how to use them in their sets, not placed in situations to succeed or were buried behind more established players.


Yeah, why play Clark when you have GLEN DAVIS AND Q-RICH? :man10:

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I mean I can understand not getting run with us to start the season given the names on our roster (MWP, Jamison, Hill, Gasol etc...), but to not even get a little bit of PT alongside those two...SVG F'ed up, at least a little bit anyway. Ryan Anderson broke out last season but there were times when Turkoglu made you go "WTF?"

To be fair, Clark is different here than he's been anywhere else. He's more confident, he's shooting better and with better form. He's slashing better. His defense is a little better but he's always been an alright defender.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:37 am

gcclaker wrote:
bruddahmanmatt wrote:
gcclaker wrote:
bruddahmanmatt wrote:
gcclaker wrote:^Lucky. Sometimes other teams where these diamonds in the rough come from NEVER figured out how to use them in their sets, not placed in situations to succeed or were buried behind more established players.

Yeah, why play Clark when you have GLEN DAVIS AND Q-RICH? :man10:

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I mean I can understand not getting run with us to start the season given the names on our roster (MWP, Jamison, Hill, Gasol etc...), but to not even get a little bit of PT alongside those two...SVG F'ed up.

Now that you bring that up. Davis was established...at the buffet table. Richardson? With pop singer Brandy I suppose. I do give the latter mad props for calling out Pierce and Garnett as "actresses'...

Clark for a player his size is fluid out there and has a motor on him. He doesn't have to plays run for him but makes it on his own. There was a telling Magic footage on Clark earlier on this thread where there he showed what he was capable of. Maybe he could not sustain it after that burst then was relegated to the bench. Healthy minutes is helping him figure out what to do on the floor. Now, if he can only remember the game is in quarters and not halves...he'll be fine. LOL.


I think the biggest thing that Clark has here in LA that he didn't have in Orlando is an all-star caliber wing player to draw attention away from him...check that...TWO all-star caliber wing players.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:45 am

:bang: :bang: I wasn't comparing Sessions to Clark......

I was comparing how the league changed how they played us because of how they changed our dynamic on the court.....

Clark's success right now is a surprise to just about everyone who's honest..... If he keeps being a "difference maker" you can bet your last dollar that the league will adjust to him come playoff time ....... if we make it that far.

Tonight I'll get to see him live..... I hope to get an even better look at what he can do.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby gcclaker on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:53 am

^I think it cuts both ways. When teams adjust to Clark's play which is constant movement which I agree WILL happen, it should alleviate the pressure off others then. Less eyes on 24, Howard, Nash and Gasol [if they were on the same floor]. The only other player on the squad that I dont believe will affect an opponent's defensive gameplan is World Peace.
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby pound4pound1 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:07 pm

when Hill went out for the year, i was really worried about not having an energy guy that makes things happen...Clark has nicely filled that void....i really like him in the starting lineup
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby gcclaker on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:12 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:when Hill went out for the year, i was really worried about not having an energy guy that makes things happen...Clark has nicely filled that void....i really like him in the starting lineup

Imagine if BOTH were available? It could be a nice PROBLEM next season. We might be saying Adios to someone. Sigh...
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Re: Earl Clark Discussion: "they call me Easy"

Postby pound4pound1 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:14 pm

gcclaker wrote:
pound4pound1 wrote:when Hill went out for the year, i was really worried about not having an energy guy that makes things happen...Clark has nicely filled that void....i really like him in the starting lineup

Imagine if BOTH were available? It could be a nice PROBLEM next season. We might be saying Adios to someone. Sigh...



healthy Dwight and Hill with Clark crashing the boards and swatting shots? oh man...
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