Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup? (Nope its MWP! Pg. 5)

Re: Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup? (Nope its MWP! Pg. 5)

Postby Vasashi17 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:34 pm

I agree with moving Metta to the bench, but put him at the back up 3. Move Ebanks to the starting 3 or move Kobe to the starting 3 and put Jodie in at the starting 2.

Bench would be Blake, Jodie/Ebanks, Metta, Jamison, Hill\\

And if he really wants to play Metta at the 2 and involve Pau/Howard at the 5, to move Jamison to the 3 then go with: Blake, Metta, Jamison, Hill, Howard/Pau

Instead of burying Jodie, I would try to put Jodie in as a starter, cause his inadequate D (according to Mike) could be covered up by the talent of our starters. Plus you want the starting unit to blitz the other team and build an early lead.

If the matchups don't make sense for any given opponent, then you can put Kob back at the 2 and put Ebanks at the 3.

Either way, bring Metta off the bench and roll out a more consistent rotation rather than having a daily lineup change :bang:
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Postby purp n gold on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:36 pm

Hey Brown I got an idea, try playing Sacre at the 1. Think about his length on defense, coach!

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Postby JLaker17 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:41 pm

I really don't get how a head coach can be this dumb.
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Postby Punk-101 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:42 pm

I'm sorry, Meeks is not Bruce Bowen, but his defense is not inadequate. Even if it's just average, it's not worth the dropoff in points and better spacing that Meeks would provide on offense.
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Postby raviator on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:44 pm

Am I reading this right? He's gonna bring Metta off the bench at the two no less? Didn't that fail miserably before and he's gonna try it again? :disagree: I know defense wins games, but unless you're gonna hold the other team scoreless, you gotta score as well.
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Re: Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup? (Nope its MWP! Pg. 5)

Postby karacha on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:51 pm

Jodie's defense is a problem so he doesn't get minutes. Yet, we are one of the worst defensive teams in the league right now. What's up with that?
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:53 pm

Wait.... so Metta isn't going to start anymore? Or is he just going to be subbed out earlier so that he is Kobe's backup??
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Postby GoldHammish on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:56 pm

Why did we even sign Meeks?
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Postby Doc Brown on Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:00 pm

karacha wrote:Jodie's defense is a problem so he doesn't get minutes. Yet, we are one of the worst defensive teams in the league right now. What's up with that?


Meeks isn't even a bad defender. Someone posted a stat here about how his defense was actually pretty solid...

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Postby lakersin4 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:43 pm

So we're going to have Metta & Ebanks out there at the same time? Or Metta & Jamison? Being the oldest team in the league isn't enough, he needs to cripple us with the slowest rotations possible? I just don't understand how this guy still has a job.
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Postby Rooscooter on Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:49 pm

karacha wrote:Jodie's defense is a problem so he doesn't get minutes. Yet, we are one of the worst defensive teams in the league right now. What's up with that?


Judging from our perimeter defense this season I'd say Meeks is having the same impact on the bench as MWP, Kobe and Pau are having on help defense while on the floor.........

Facetious of course but I can't believe he is "tinkering" with the line ups and none of that "tinkering" includes the guy we made a "Need Signing" in the offseason.....

I'm not sure it would make a huge difference as Meeks was available for a reason but he can at least shoot and is somewhat athletic.... that's a combination no one else on the bench can boast of....
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Re: Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup? (Nope its MWP! Pg. 5)

Postby Finwë on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:18 pm

Just plain dumb.
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Postby revgen on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:23 pm

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karacha wrote:Jodie's defense is a problem so he doesn't get minutes. Yet, we are one of the worst defensive teams in the league right now. What's up with that?


Meeks isn't even a bad defender. Someone posted a stat here about how his defense was actually pretty solid...


I posted them. He's a good defender when he's part of a team defense environment like he was under Skiles in Milwaukee and Collins in Philly. But since Mike Brown wants "length" to be his defense instead of actual rotations, Jodie doesn't fit in apparently.
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Postby DHL on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:40 pm

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Postby nolQQkpass on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:44 pm

relax cl. remember artest in sac, or in houston? him and aaron brookes gave us a scare in the playoffs. mike brown needs a playmaker off the bench. it isnt going to be jamison, blakes hill or meeks.. theres enough playmakers in the starting line up. and i here ebanks has developed a pretty good 3 point shot. we need that with nash. u notice when rons playing with the big 4, he doesnt get the ball much, so when he does, he tries to hoist one up a shot, good or bad. jamisons also a good cutter, ron will draw defenses and find a slashing jamison.
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Postby Alcindor on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:01 pm

nolQQkpass wrote:relax cl. remember artest in sac, or in houston? him and aaron brookes gave us a scare in the playoffs. mike brown needs a playmaker off the bench. it isnt going to be jamison, blakes hill or meeks.. theres enough playmakers in the starting line up. and i here ebanks has developed a pretty good 3 point shot. we need that with nash. u notice when rons playing with the big 4, he doesnt get the ball much, so when he does, he tries to hoist one up a shot, good or bad. jamisons also a good cutter, ron will draw defenses and find a slashing jamison.


Ron draws defenses if he penetrates only, and he gets stripped a good % of the time.

Ebanks has made 1 three pointer on 4 tries this season and is .167 career. I wouldn't get too excited.
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Postby nolQQkpass on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:15 pm

im not that excited. but i rather have artest trying to create and make something happen rather than standing behind the arc shooting a low 30 percent..
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Postby Ras Algethi on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:19 pm

I'm late to this but WTF? Metta has no SG skills - ball handling, outside shooting. :bang:
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:16 am

Now I have the confirmation Mike Brown is posting here ... because that's not the 1st time I read there weren't differences between the 2 and the 3 positions
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Postby lakersin4 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:24 am

I like the scoring Ron can give us off the bench.. But I would like it alot more from SF next to Meeks. I just don't understand this obsession with length. & the no different between the wing positions thing comes from the triangle days, when there was no difference between them in offensive sets. Defense is a whole other story.
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Postby kenzo on Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:29 am

Either Brown knows he's untouchable and he can do whatever the f he wants... or he just lost it :freak2:
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Postby kray28 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:38 am

DHL wrote:


This so perfectly captures my reaction.
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Postby tigerjeterkobe on Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:42 am

Length, length, length..... Sigh. Sigh. Sigh.

The last two championships were won with mostly versions of small ball -- speed, athleticism, and guys who get into the paint and cause havoc with all that "length."

See what little Bynum from Det was doing to Gasol and Hill the other night? JJ Barea - remember him? Bosh at 5 and LBJ at 4?

Having Ron play out of position and try to do too much will make that unit the worst in league history -- clanks from long rebounds and TOs beacuse of no spacing and playmaking will lead to transition points and fouls galore.

Please fire this idiot. How can he be the coach of the LA Lakers??? This is a nightmare.
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Postby GoldenKnight on Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:59 am

Just when you think it can't get any worse with the rotations...
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Re: Ebanks might be Kobe's primary backup? (Nope its MWP! Pg. 5)

Postby Center Court on Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:02 am

to me this has gotten to the point complete embarrassment with how poor of a coach he is.

Brown is potentially great lead assistant. Dude works hard, preaches D, and communicates well. But as far has having a feel for chemistry, managing egos/players body limits, instilling confidence, making adjustments on the fly/in game, and creating balanced rotations, this idiot is a complete moron. Unfortunately, those are the characteristics of a good head coach. Some guys make the transition from assistant to HC well, Brown didn't.

Imagine Brown trying to coach 2005-2007 Kobe, he'd be crying 2 weeks in.

He's overplayed Kobe to injury, never found a consistent rotation and seemingly experiments daily, struggles to have vision as to what can work and what is working around the NBA, and projects a strong ineptitude to other coaches. They say you are only as strong as your weakest link, well within this franchise, Brown is easily the weak link- which is unfortunate because he's in command.

MWP is not a backup 2 Heck, he is not even a good fit at small forward (despite his strong start). Ebanks is not a backup 2. Blake sure as hell aint a sg. we signed Meeks to play 14-18mpg. In that time, his role was very well defined, spot up shooter. Clear space and keep defenders honest. Seeing as we are the worst spaced team, you'd think Brown would understand that. Hopefully, Mitch and Buss are taking notice of the things I am.

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