ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby kblo247 on Sun May 26, 2013 5:54 am

Q: How his role in D'Antoni's staff changed:

- Under Phil Jackson first, and then Mike Brown, my primary role was defense. But when Mike D'Antoni took over, he wanted to implement his offense, which was his perogative to make the team better going forward. So there wasn't anything I could do with it, and I just had to fit in with whatever role was given to me.

Q: How his release came about:

- I got a call from Mike (D'Antoni) telling me he would me more comfortable bringing in his own coaching staff, which I understood, but I was a little surprised.

Story last season when Andrew Bynum shot a 3-pt and got benched, Kobe Bryant, as the Team Captain, didn't hold Bynum accountable and actually catered to Bynum's action. So Chuck Person got into Kobe's face in the locker room for not being accountable.

Q: What did he say to Kobe about being more accountable regarding that Bynum 3-pt:

- What makes a good assistant is loyalty. What was said, whatever goes in house stays in house.

Q: Why Mike D'Antoni's system didn't worked:

- D'Antoni said on his own accord "3-Pointer takes priority over a Post-up". He said that himself to the team. But eventually the ball has to go inside some, so then of course he made the adjustments, although it was a little late for everyone's liking. But he did it, and we benefited from it going 28-12. Does his system fit everyone? That's to be determined. If a guy doesn't like to play in his system then they'll leave, if they like it, they'll stay.

Q: D'Antoni's relationship with Dwight:

- Dwight Howard's relationship with Mike D'Antoni is... serviceable. When you have 4 superstars like we have last year, not everyone would be happy. You have Kobe who is always strong headed, etc. You have 4 dynamic guys that have been elites and you have a coach that comes in who wants to play with a system that doesn't fit with all the guys. So everyone's to blame, everyone has to comeback and sacrifice to achieve more.

Q: Describe Dwight as a player, and as a person:

- I have a good relationship with Dwight. Whoever gets Dwight will have a special special player in their hands. The guy came back 3 months early because he wanted to show Lakers fans he wanted to play for the Lakers. Once he got into shape we were a Top 5 defensive team in the league. When he's out of the game we are just ranked #26 in defensive efficiency, that's a big discrepancy. Whoever gets this guy, that team will be a championship team every year.

Q: Where do you guess Dwight will sign:

- Dwight loves LA. He loves the city. He knows being here is the creme of the crop. But I know this, he doesn't want to be in a place always fighting just to get into the next round. He's going to go to a team that has the best talent around, and he's going to weigh his options on which team gives him the best chance of winning. This is Dwight's first time in free agency, this is the biggest time in his life. He has the right to be selfish and do what's best for himself, what's best for his family.

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3 takes precedent over a post up, making the lead defensive assistant an offensive assistant to ssol which he never played in or ran before when we needed a defensive scheme, etc ... WTF Pringles
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Weezy on Sun May 26, 2013 6:25 am

- D'Antoni said on his own accord "3-Pointer takes priority over a Post-up". He said that himself to the team


'Antoni is a moron, "offensive genius" my ***.
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby karacha on Sun May 26, 2013 7:15 am

Weezy wrote:
- D'Antoni said on his own accord "3-Pointer takes priority over a Post-up". He said that himself to the team


'Antoni is a moron, "offensive genius" my ***.


I actually agree with him. It does. When you have a bunch of elite 3-point shooters on your teams and no post players.

Which is exactly what we have. :mhihi:

About Dwight... he knows what's up. And obviously, while he's not openly rebelling against MDA, he's not thrilled to play for him either. He doesn't know how to utilize Howard. And from #5 with healthy Dwight to #26 in defense... wow.
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby lakersin4 on Sun May 26, 2013 10:02 am

If we had the Warriors roster, D'antoni would look like a genius.
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Rooscooter on Sun May 26, 2013 10:21 am

karacha wrote:And from #5 with healthy Dwight to #26 in defense... wow.


This shows the fallacy of stats IMHO.... were were never a good defensive team at any point last year.... not even close. Statistics may say so but what we saw on the court was atrocious 90% of the time.
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Postby karacha on Sun May 26, 2013 11:06 am

Perhaps. But I think we can agree, we're better defensively with him on the floor.
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby bigdog2013 on Sun May 26, 2013 12:44 pm

I wish they gave Head coaching job to Chuck Person. What happen to the days where the Lakers gave a chance to young coaches like when they hired Pat Riley from the broadcast booth.
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Battle Tested20 on Sun May 26, 2013 2:38 pm

Biggest thing that stuck out to me in that interview as this:

Story last season when Andrew Bynum shot a 3-pt and got benched, Kobe Bryant, as the Team Captain, didn't hold Bynum accountable and actually catered to Bynum's action. So Chuck Person got into Kobe's face in the locker room for not being accountable.

Q: What did he say to Kobe about being more accountable regarding that Bynum 3-pt:

- What makes a good assistant is loyalty. What was said, whatever goes in house stays in house.


Good for Chuck, I like that he did that and I'm sure even Kobe was surprised that Chuck stood up to him.
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Finwë on Sun May 26, 2013 2:40 pm

Once he got into shape we were a Top 5 defensive team in the league. When he's out of the game we are just ranked #26 in defensive efficiency, that's a big discrepancy.

I don't really go to advanced stats sites.. Is this true?
I of course noticed that Howard's presence helped our D a lot, but even when he was healthy and on the floor I still thought our D had a LOT of problems... Certainly didn't look like a "top 5 defensive team" to me...
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Finwë on Sun May 26, 2013 2:43 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
karacha wrote:And from #5 with healthy Dwight to #26 in defense... wow.


This shows the fallacy of stats IMHO.... were were never a good defensive team at any point last year.... not even close. Statistics may say so but what we saw on the court was atrocious 90% of the time.

Just saw this, this is what I meant in my post
Thing is, I don't know if what Chuck said (from 5 to 26) was even true...
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Battle Tested20 on Sun May 26, 2013 3:02 pm

Finwë wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
karacha wrote:And from #5 with healthy Dwight to #26 in defense... wow.


This shows the fallacy of stats IMHO.... were were never a good defensive team at any point last year.... not even close. Statistics may say so but what we saw on the court was atrocious 90% of the time.

Just saw this, this is what I meant in my post
Thing is, I don't know if what Chuck said (from 5 to 26) was even true...

Has anyone ever considered that he was just generally saying a Top 5 defense team and not actually implying it/backing it up with stats. I read it has if he was merely trying to say that when Howard was out we were really bad and when he was in we were roughly or close to a top 5 defensive team.
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Savory Griddles on Sun May 26, 2013 3:19 pm

Finwë wrote:
Once he got into shape we were a Top 5 defensive team in the league. When he's out of the game we are just ranked #26 in defensive efficiency, that's a big discrepancy.

I don't really go to advanced stats sites.. Is this true?
I of course noticed that Howard's presence helped our D a lot, but even when he was healthy and on the floor I still thought our D had a LOT of problems... Certainly didn't look like a "top 5 defensive team" to me...


I noticed a huge difference with and without him on the floor. This is why I firmly believe that losing him for nothing will set this team back 5-6 years. I do like the scenario where we do a sign and trade for Harrison Barnes, Klay Thompson and filler (likely Bogut) for him. I honestly like that a bit more than the keeping him because we then have two young solid players (both with star potential) that fit Dantoni's system like a glove with Barnes playing PF, and then in 2014, we have two good players signed for around 8 million as opposed to Dwight at 20.
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Postby DHL on Sun May 26, 2013 4:02 pm

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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Rooscooter on Sun May 26, 2013 5:12 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:
Finwë wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
karacha wrote:And from #5 with healthy Dwight to #26 in defense... wow.


This shows the fallacy of stats IMHO.... were were never a good defensive team at any point last year.... not even close. Statistics may say so but what we saw on the court was atrocious 90% of the time.

Just saw this, this is what I meant in my post
Thing is, I don't know if what Chuck said (from 5 to 26) was even true...

Has anyone ever considered that he was just generally saying a Top 5 defense team and not actually implying it/backing it up with stats. I read it has if he was merely trying to say that when Howard was out we were really bad and when he was in we were roughly or close to a top 5 defensive team.


That makes it worse.... The coach is then lying.... Bald faced....
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Postby Tobias Funke on Sun May 26, 2013 5:42 pm

Does his system fit everyone? That's to be determined. If a guy doesn't like to play in his system then they'll leave, if they like it, they'll stay.


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Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun May 26, 2013 8:43 pm

No need in getting frustrated anymore; I'm done with that. He's our coach next year. According to Mitch, MDA is going to be evaluated on "wins and losses." With MDA's pattern, he'll be fired by 2014/15.
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Postby 432J on Sun May 26, 2013 10:42 pm

lakersin4 wrote:If we had the Warriors roster, D'antoni would look like a genius.

give us jackson and they can have dantoni

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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon May 27, 2013 2:35 am

We never were a top 10 defensive team with D12 on the floor both stats and "eyes" test wise ... top 5 ? :man10:

To accept you suck at something is the 1st step towards improving ...another example of Lakers assessment of this season's failures not being on point
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Postby revgen on Mon May 27, 2013 7:50 am

^IMO, the Lakers FO and possibly the coaching staff probably believed that acquiring D12 would "cure all" the Lakers' defensive issues. Bad rotations, going under the P&R on shooters, going over the P&R on drivers, etc, etc would all be "cure alled" by trading for D12. D12 was coached by Stan Van Gundy. D12 may have gotten the credit, just as Marc Gasol does in Memphis, but it's the team defense that does it. D12 played his part as the anchor.
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Postby karacha on Mon May 27, 2013 8:45 am

^
Maybe they got confused and thought that Dwight is really Superman?
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Finwë on Mon May 27, 2013 2:03 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:We never were a top 10 defensive team with D12 on the floor both stats and "eyes" test wise ... top 5 ? :man10:

To accept you suck at something is the 1st step towards improving ...another example of Lakers assessment of this season's failures not being on point

Exactly


Battle tested, that could be the case, but that would be troubling to me because it'd suggest that he felt that with D12 on the floor we pretty much had no issues on the defensive end, which is laughable.
Howard improved our D, but didn't fix it, not at all.
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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby Cleansed on Mon May 27, 2013 10:11 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:Biggest thing that stuck out to me in that interview as this:

Story last season when Andrew Bynum shot a 3-pt and got benched, Kobe Bryant, as the Team Captain, didn't hold Bynum accountable and actually catered to Bynum's action. So Chuck Person got into Kobe's face in the locker room for not being accountable.

Q: What did he say to Kobe about being more accountable regarding that Bynum 3-pt:

- What makes a good assistant is loyalty. What was said, whatever goes in house stays in house.


Good for Chuck, I like that he did that and I'm sure even Kobe was surprised that Chuck stood up to him.



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Re: ESPN Radio - Chuck Persons interview on Dantoni and Dwight

Postby revgen on Mon May 27, 2013 10:47 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:Biggest thing that stuck out to me in that interview as this:

Story last season when Andrew Bynum shot a 3-pt and got benched, Kobe Bryant, as the Team Captain, didn't hold Bynum accountable and actually catered to Bynum's action. So Chuck Person got into Kobe's face in the locker room for not being accountable.

Q: What did he say to Kobe about being more accountable regarding that Bynum 3-pt:

- What makes a good assistant is loyalty. What was said, whatever goes in house stays in house.


Good for Chuck, I like that he did that and I'm sure even Kobe was surprised that Chuck stood up to him.


Chuck is implying that Kobe did not have Mike Brown's back. He's also implying that he stood by MB when the players did not.

The question was selective and IMO was done to try to help Person get another job, and also to suggest why he was let go.
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