revgen wrote:1) Taunting has nothing to do with IQ on the basketball court. In fact has nothing to do with basketball at all. Not only that, it's illegal in today's game and will only bring a technical to Hill and a FT for the player who is being taunted. That's not smart. I'm not sure why you're even trying to argue this.
Charge/Block is one of the most difficult calls for referees to make. Engaging in trying to draw a charge as opposed to going for the shotblock/contest doesn't make a player smarter or indicate a higher basketball IQ. If anything you're gambling that the refs won't call a block against you. Since defenders that attempt to draw charges aren't contesting the shot, a block call can often turn into an and-1 opportunity. Hill's choice to contest/block is a more conservative approach, since if he picks up the foul, he's less likely to allow the and-1. Rodman is/was more of a gambler than Hill. That's his choice. It doesn't make him a smarter player than Hill.
2) Rodman was a SF/PF in the triangle offense with Chicago. The PF in our system doesn't distribute the ball, so your whole "passing" argument falls flat. We don't play in the triangle. Rodman was a superior physical specimen, I'll give you that.
3) Hill came off the bench last season and the season before that. He only started 9 games for us total before this season. If he was "doing it with Kobe" as you claim, it certainly wasn't for long periods. Most of the time, the people on the court with him were the likes of Blake, Goudelock, and Meeks. Once again, your argument falls flat.
4) Judging by the fact that you're mostly wrong about Hill as a shotblocker, Hill's IQ, Hill's superior postgame, and Faried's so-called superior athleticism, I don't really care about what judgement you make in the future. You're wasting my time and yours.
5) No. It's not wrong. Hill's IQ is high enough to perform his role to highest level. Nobody's asking him to be Steve Nash. Ditto with Rodman during his time with the Pistons and Bulls.
You obviously love Rodman, and can't stand the idea of another player being compared to him. Fine. I don't intend to change your mind. But your arguments against Hill as a person who could potentially play a Rodman-like role on a championship team fall flat.
1. To truly appreciate Rodman's mental game, a person would have to watch a full game to understand. I'm using the taunting just as one example of his way to distract and annoy an opponent into committing foul and took the team out. When Rodman flopped, he made it looks as if the others did it even though he instigated the event.
Opponents hate it but if you are a teammate of his , you would love it because these are dirty works that don't show up in the boxscore. It's dirty but it's smart basketball. Basketball is a game not just about putting the ball in the hoop. There are dynamics and system that you run and Rodman is very good at it.
Yes, charge/block is difficult to call but the difference is when a player should go for charge and when a player should go for block. It's all about positioning and knowing your limitation. Rodman, Fisher, Battier all are very good at it because they know their limitation. That's nonsense. either choice of going for block and charge will lead to And-1 depending on the player maneuver. There are too many cases of player going for block, ending up missing the ball, hitting the arm and the player dunks or layup, and And-1. Likewise for charge. You don't close your eyes and go for charge every time. You MUST know where your feet is set and be at the right place in your anticipation which give you better possibility of a charging call, as opposed to blocking call.
2. Nonsense. Rodman is a PF/C in the triangle. His usefulness is to rebound, inbound very quickly, run the break, finish the break, pass on the high key, and give 2nd opportunity to reset the clock on each offensive rebound. He is like Ben Wallace but just a better passer, leading to better movement in the triangle. This is not mentioning Rodman's defensive versatility allows him to switch and rotation on the Bulls is like the Miami Heats. His passing and handle is better than Hill and that is useful for any system that want to execute a play.
3. Nonsense. Hill is the same player he was with the Rockets and even in college. It is his "game". The only thing really change is in the past few game, he got more minutes but we have to wait and see if he can keep up. He plays plenty of time with Kobe because he subs in for Dwight/Pau and MDA extensive use of Kobe's minute meaning Kobe plays with all kind of lineups. The 8-10min of Kobe rest is replaced by Jodi and Hill played around 16min, which mean half of it he played with Kobe on the court.
4. Pay close attention and observe his game. Hill will contest shot regardless of the situation, leading to foul. He averages close to 4 personal foul per game in the last 5 games in which he played extended minutes.
5. Like I said, Hill's basketball IQ is well-documented in his scouting draft report and with the Rockets and Knicks. His tendency to forget the play and execute poorly is detrimental against the good team. At best, he is average. And on a contender, that, my friend, is not good enough to be a core player from a starting lineup perspective. He is a bench player, role player.
I appreciate Rodman's game because I understand the game more than you. That's all. It's nothing personal. To be compare to someone, I assume you gain at least a sizable basketball fan that will pick Hill over Rodman and I'm sorry, bud, you won't find many in the world of basketball.