Kobe8Fan wrote:BRYANT: He is not my quote unquote "big brother." A big brother would have called to lend his support this summer. I heard absolutely nothing from him. I spoke to Devean [George], Rick [Fox], Mitch [Kupchak], Phil, and our owner Jerry Buss. And Shaq's own Uncle Jerome called and left three messages. Other teammates like Derek [Fisher], Mark [Madsen], and [Stanislav Medvedenko] left messages as well. Opponents called like [Chris] Webber, [Mike] Bibby, and many others. So did a lot of coaches. Michael Jordan, who didn't have my home phone, tracked it down to lend his support. So did Tiger Woods. But yet from my so-called big brother, I heard nothing.
Aonex wrote:No, Kobe is not blameless. But he's pretty much right on with his description of Shaq.
EMC wrote:If Shaq's selfishness hurt the team in 2003, where were those comments. Bryant doesn't say "I tried to talk to him." He says: "I tried to get Phil to talk to him."
EMC wrote:Well, my point is the description shouldn't have been made. And did you feel that way on June 1 of this year?
Riled-up Stackhouse: Hill is 'soft'
While on caravan, Piston rips quotes of former teammate
September 20, 2000
By Chris McCosky / The Detroit News
TRAVERSE CITY -- It is, technically, a goodwill promotional mission the Pistons are on. But things got a little chilly when the topic of ex-Piston Grant Hill came up.
A caravan, which included Jerry Stackhouse and Chucky Atkins, Coach George Irvine and team president Joe Dumars, barnstormed its way through the state Tuesday. They greeted legislators at the State Capitol in Lansing. They thrilled some 4,500 screaming and stomping elementary school kids at Rockford High School outside of Grand Rapids. And they won new friends at the casinos and resorts in Traverse City.
But there was some tension early in the day.
"Did you see what he said?" Stackhouse asked, referring to quotes attributed to Hill and published in the Orlando Sentinel late last week.
Hill, commenting on the Magic's large turnout for nonmandatory workouts, was quoted as saying: "To have everyone here this time of year is amazing to me. It's a rarity in this league. In Detroit, we'd get maybe four-five guys come in. And then two days before camp, everyone would show up."
Stackhouse couldn't believe it. First of all, last summer the Pistons had nearly 20 players working out at the practice facility nearly every day, and usually twice a day. Again this year, except for Jud Buechler and newly acquired Billy Owens, every Pistons player under contract has been in working out.
Second, Hill rarely if ever was among the Pistons participating in precamp workouts. He usually chose to work out on his own.
"He's soft, and I just look at those comments as soft," Stackhouse said. "He just wants to pacify whoever he is speaking with. That's why a lot of people I meet in the city never could relate to him. He's not a straight shooter."
Hill also angered Stackhouse when he said, "I know I can play better, and I'm ready to do that now. This is the first time since my rookie year that I am genuinely excited about the start of training camp."
Said Stackhouse: "Those comments right there tell a lot of the people in the city just where he really stands and how he feels about the time he was here."
Said a fan in Lansing who approached Stackhouse for an autograph: "Can you do me a favor, Stack? Put a dunk on Grant Hill for me."
"That's what I'm going to try to do," Stackhouse said, laughing.
Stackhouse left the caravan Tuesday night. He will be filming an ESPN SportsCenter commercial today, then a public-service announcement Thursday for the National Diabetes Education Program.
Hill did not return telephone messages seeking comment on Stackhouse's views.
purple_and_gold_fever wrote:i didnt know kobe said somethin like that about shaq.... and im glad he did...
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