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Postby Toklat on Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:20 am

Gathering young talent with lots of upside is a good philosophy right now. Bring these young guys in and let them fight for spots.. Byron is not going to start anyone that doesn't buy into playing defense and being a team guy on offense. Bring in the best talent you can and let your coach figure it out. This player is 1/10 of him, we don't have anybody anyone would want, we aren't going anywhere.. good grief. This is going to be an exciting young athletic team that works hard and we have a coach that will see to it. Get off the gloom and doom juice and enjoy. This is the time of year for optimism and supporting what we are doing. All of our players are hard working good team guys. Defense is about hustle, smarts and system. I would love coaching this team and I'm going to enjoy watching them. All these interviews with Byron were him helping hand pick players that will work hard and fit in. This team will be closer to 69 wins than 69 losses.
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Postby syl on Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:51 am

Agreed ^^^^ for the most part, we in store for exciting season, lets enjoy
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Postby tigerjeterkobe on Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:59 am

"This team will be closer to 69 wins than 69 losses."

What if they finish 41-41???? :man1:
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Postby DanielBeltz24 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:15 am

Getting Beasley is a no brainer. What do we have to lose this year? If he could stay away from the weed and put a little more effort on D he would be a great pick up.
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Postby Alcindor on Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:08 am

Beasley and the words "no brainer" sure do go together easily.
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Postby ElginTheGreat on Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:37 am

If Beasley is willing to come for what we can pay him, I definitely think its a good move. As others have said, he would instantly be our best SF. I still wouldn't pencil us in to the playoffs, but him along with the other moves we have made would definitely be an improved roster.
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Postby Congo Cash on Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:56 am

Alcindor wrote:Beasley and the words "no brainer" sure do go together easily.

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Postby Amoray on Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:02 am

He is better than the rest of the roster!!!
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Postby wolfpaclaker on Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:41 am

Do the Lakers have no faith in Randle playing at all? :bang:
Beasley would be competing for minutes with Randle. He like Julius can play 4 or 3. So you consider that we also have Boozer, Kelly, Wesley, Young all competing for the F minutes, I don't get the Beasley interest.

I mean Randle shouldn't be handed minutes he isn't deserving, but 22-24 mpg is about right. Anything less wouldn't be wise IMO. He isn't Bynum, he isn't that raw or unable to handle minutes like that.
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Postby JJack on Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:56 am

this guy is risky. should put a term in the contract put him through toxic screen weekly plus 0 tolerance policy.
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Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:29 am

Amoray wrote:He is better than the rest of the roster!!!


What's CL without the bi-weekly lunatic posts from you? :man10: :jam2:
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Postby bltkmt on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:01 am

DanielBeltz24 wrote:If he could stay away from the weed and put a little more effort on D he would be a great pick up.



Two VERY big 'Ifs" in my opinion...I would stay away. Seems like another JR Rider.
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Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:03 am

If we didn't pick up Wes, then Beasley would've been okay.

However, our more pressing need is a backup PG, unless they plan on running a corpse and a rookie behind Lin.
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Postby Lakers79 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:25 am

Toklat wrote:Gathering young talent with lots of upside is a good philosophy right now. Bring these young guys in and let them fight for spots.. Byron is not going to start anyone that doesn't buy into playing defense and being a team guy on offense. Bring in the best talent you can and let your coach figure it out. This player is 1/10 of him, we don't have anybody anyone would want, we aren't going anywhere.. good grief. This is going to be an exciting young athletic team that works hard and we have a coach that will see to it. Get off the gloom and doom juice and enjoy. This is the time of year for optimism and supporting what we are doing. All of our players are hard working good team guys. Defense is about hustle, smarts and system. I would love coaching this team and I'm going to enjoy watching them. All these interviews with Byron were him helping hand pick players that will work hard and fit in. This team will be closer to 69 wins than 69 losses.


Thanks for the dose of sanity. Let's develop young talent and have fun. Our team will continue to have injuries, and if Kobe goes down, I'd like to have a Beasley on the floor to pick up the scoring from the perimeter. This could be a very athletic team, and I'm all in for whatever gets us to the eventual dynasty, even if it means that we end up with another cheap, young, talented lottery pick. Would enjoy making the playoffs, even as a #8 seed but I'm not sure that this would be in the best long-term interest of the team, unless we develop future pieces or trade assets in the process. I'd take a top 5 lottery pick over a early playoff exit at this stage.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:57 am

wolfpaclaker wrote:Do the Lakers have no faith in Randle playing at all? :bang:
Beasley would be competing for minutes with Randle. He like Julius can play 4 or 3. So you consider that we also have Boozer, Kelly, Wesley, Young all competing for the F minutes, I don't get the Beasley interest.

I mean Randle shouldn't be handed minutes he isn't deserving, but 22-24 mpg is about right. Anything less wouldn't be wise IMO. He isn't Bynum, he isn't that raw or unable to handle minutes like that.


Who know's if Randle is going to deserve minutes or not? He's an unknown at this point. Odds are that he will but I'm not sure you can build a roster expecting him to be a heavy contributor. If he proves it by the first quarter of the season the F rotation will figure itself out.

Beasley is intriguing because he has a ton of talent and actually has had some level of success in using it. He also has a history of being less than diligent in his approach to the game. If Scott thinks he'd be a candidate for his more focused system then I'd be OK with giving him a shot. To alleviate the problem I'd let Wes go. He had a shot of a lifetime playing on the Lakers in a system designed to allow for just about anything offensively and he showed the same he's shown to this point.... no improvement at all. If Beasley shows the same then we move on with him too. If not then we've improved and we have a 25 year old who has some serious ability. I'm not sure how it's a losing situation on a one year Vet Min. contract.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby Center Court on Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:20 am

wolfpaclaker wrote:Do the Lakers have no faith in Randle playing at all? :bang:
Beasley would be competing for minutes with Randle. He like Julius can play 4 or 3. So you consider that we also have Boozer, Kelly, Wesley, Young all competing for the F minutes, I don't get the Beasley interest.

I mean Randle shouldn't be handed minutes he isn't deserving, but 22-24 mpg is about right. Anything less wouldn't be wise IMO. He isn't Bynum, he isn't that raw or unable to handle minutes like that.


Beasley can play the 4, but IMO should be a 3. Kelly is a 4/5 and Nick is SG who CAN slide to SF, though I hate seeing him there.

Hill (24)/Davis (16)/ Kelly (8)
Boozer (26)/Randle (20) /Kelly (2)
Beasley (20) Wes (18)/ Swaggy (10)
Kobe (28)/ Swaggy (16)/ X (4)
Lin (30)/Nash (12)/ X (6)

that's sort of how I'd play my rotations. If Nash can't give mins, more for Xavier.

I agree that we should go for a PG over a SF but Sessions is not taking the minimum. If we can have Beasley for it, then we've gained a guy who has the best shot to totally turn around his career out of all the others we've tried to re-establish.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:46 am

Center Court wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:Do the Lakers have no faith in Randle playing at all? :bang:
Beasley would be competing for minutes with Randle. He like Julius can play 4 or 3. So you consider that we also have Boozer, Kelly, Wesley, Young all competing for the F minutes, I don't get the Beasley interest.

I mean Randle shouldn't be handed minutes he isn't deserving, but 22-24 mpg is about right. Anything less wouldn't be wise IMO. He isn't Bynum, he isn't that raw or unable to handle minutes like that.


Beasley can play the 4, but IMO should be a 3. Kelly is a 4/5 and Nick is SG who CAN slide to SF, though I hate seeing him there.

Hill (24)/Davis (16)/ Kelly (8)
Boozer (26)/Randle (20) /Kelly (2)
Beasley (20) Wes (18)/ Swaggy (10)
Kobe (28)/ Swaggy (16)/ X (4)
Lin (30)/Nash (12)/ X (6)

that's sort of how I'd play my rotations. If Nash can't give mins, more for Xavier.

I agree that we should go for a PG over a SF but Sessions is not taking the minimum. If we can have Beasley for it, then we've gained a guy who has the best shot to totally turn around his career out of all the others we've tried to re-establish.


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Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:07 pm

Center Court wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:Do the Lakers have no faith in Randle playing at all? :bang:
Beasley would be competing for minutes with Randle. He like Julius can play 4 or 3. So you consider that we also have Boozer, Kelly, Wesley, Young all competing for the F minutes, I don't get the Beasley interest.

I mean Randle shouldn't be handed minutes he isn't deserving, but 22-24 mpg is about right. Anything less wouldn't be wise IMO. He isn't Bynum, he isn't that raw or unable to handle minutes like that.


Beasley can play the 4, but IMO should be a 3. Kelly is a 4/5 and Nick is SG who CAN slide to SF, though I hate seeing him there.

Hill (24)/Davis (16)/ Kelly (8)
Boozer (26)/Randle (20) /Kelly (2)
Beasley (20) Wes (18)/ Swaggy (10)
Kobe (28)/ Swaggy (16)/ X (4)
Lin (30)/Nash (12)/ X (6)

that's sort of how I'd play my rotations. If Nash can't give mins, more for Xavier.

I agree that we should go for a PG over a SF but Sessions is not taking the minimum. If we can have Beasley for it, then we've gained a guy who has the best shot to totally turn around his career out of all the others we've tried to re-establish.


26 Minutes for Young?.... This is Scott.... not MDA. Not sure he will get that many minutes. 18 to 22 is more like it.
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:22 pm

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wolfpaclaker wrote:Do the Lakers have no faith in Randle playing at all? :bang:
Beasley would be competing for minutes with Randle. He like Julius can play 4 or 3. So you consider that we also have Boozer, Kelly, Wesley, Young all competing for the F minutes, I don't get the Beasley interest.

I mean Randle shouldn't be handed minutes he isn't deserving, but 22-24 mpg is about right. Anything less wouldn't be wise IMO. He isn't Bynum, he isn't that raw or unable to handle minutes like that.


Beasley can play the 4, but IMO should be a 3. Kelly is a 4/5 and Nick is SG who CAN slide to SF, though I hate seeing him there.

Hill (24)/Davis (16)/ Kelly (8)
Boozer (26)/Randle (20) /Kelly (2)
Beasley (20) Wes (18)/ Swaggy (10)
Kobe (28)/ Swaggy (16)/ X (4)
Lin (30)/Nash (12)/ X (6)

that's sort of how I'd play my rotations. If Nash can't give mins, more for Xavier.

I agree that we should go for a PG over a SF but Sessions is not taking the minimum. If we can have Beasley for it, then we've gained a guy who has the best shot to totally turn around his career out of all the others we've tried to re-establish.


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Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:25 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
Center Court wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:Do the Lakers have no faith in Randle playing at all? :bang:
Beasley would be competing for minutes with Randle. He like Julius can play 4 or 3. So you consider that we also have Boozer, Kelly, Wesley, Young all competing for the F minutes, I don't get the Beasley interest.

I mean Randle shouldn't be handed minutes he isn't deserving, but 22-24 mpg is about right. Anything less wouldn't be wise IMO. He isn't Bynum, he isn't that raw or unable to handle minutes like that.


Beasley can play the 4, but IMO should be a 3. Kelly is a 4/5 and Nick is SG who CAN slide to SF, though I hate seeing him there.

Hill (24)/Davis (16)/ Kelly (8)
Boozer (26)/Randle (20) /Kelly (2)
Beasley (20) Wes (18)/ Swaggy (10)
Kobe (28)/ Swaggy (16)/ X (4)
Lin (30)/Nash (12)/ X (6)

that's sort of how I'd play my rotations. If Nash can't give mins, more for Xavier.

I agree that we should go for a PG over a SF but Sessions is not taking the minimum. If we can have Beasley for it, then we've gained a guy who has the best shot to totally turn around his career out of all the others we've tried to re-establish.


26 Minutes for Young?.... This is Scott.... not MDA. Not sure he will get that many minutes. 18 to 22 is more like it.


Young should play 26+. The one who should not be getting a lot of minutes is Wes.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby Savory Griddles on Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:25 pm

Center Court wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:Do the Lakers have no faith in Randle playing at all? :bang:
Beasley would be competing for minutes with Randle. He like Julius can play 4 or 3. So you consider that we also have Boozer, Kelly, Wesley, Young all competing for the F minutes, I don't get the Beasley interest.

I mean Randle shouldn't be handed minutes he isn't deserving, but 22-24 mpg is about right. Anything less wouldn't be wise IMO. He isn't Bynum, he isn't that raw or unable to handle minutes like that.


Beasley can play the 4, but IMO should be a 3. Kelly is a 4/5 and Nick is SG who CAN slide to SF, though I hate seeing him there.

Hill (24)/Davis (16)/ Kelly (8)
Boozer (26)/Randle (20) /Kelly (2)
Beasley (20) Wes (18)/ Swaggy (10)
Kobe (28)/ Swaggy (16)/ X (4)
Lin (30)/Nash (12)/ X (6)

that's sort of how I'd play my rotations. If Nash can't give mins, more for Xavier.

I agree that we should go for a PG over a SF but Sessions is not taking the minimum. If we can have Beasley for it, then we've gained a guy who has the best shot to totally turn around his career out of all the others we've tried to re-establish.


I think Swaggy would get more minutes at the 3 than Wes. Swaggy getting like 18 at the 3 and like 10 at the 2 with X getting more minutes at the 1. Also, people in the Laker org are talking about Boozer at the 5 which means some of those minutes (probably Kelly's) will be Boozer's.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:32 pm

Currently, it's more like:

Hill (24) / Davis (20) / Sacre (4)
Boozer (24) / Randle (20) / Kelly (4)
Johnson (20) / Young (28)
Kobe (26) / Henry (16) / Clarkson (4)
Lin (28) / Nash (12) / Clarkson (8)

with Beasley, things shift at the SF and PG position

Beasley (20) / Young (20) / Johnson (8)
Kobe (28) / Henry (16) / Young (6)
Lin (28) / Nash (10) / Clarkson (10)
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby LakersN4 on Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:55 pm

Not sure exactly how many minutes guys should get but Lin is probably the only starter that should go over 30 MPG.. we should start Lin/Kobe/Beasley/Boozer/Hill.. Young should get most of the backup minutes at both SG & SF.. I like Clarkson better in the backup PG minutes than Nash. Young & Beasley will probably be out there with the 2nd unit & they need the ball in their hands alot.. We won't get the most out of those guys if we have them next to a ball dominant player all the time (Kobe, Lin, Nash)
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby jhalp on Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:02 pm

My rotation:

Lin (30) Kobe (30) Young (24) Boozer (30) Hill (28)
Nash (12) Henry (14) Randle (14) Kelly (10) Davis (18)
Clark (6) Young (4) Wes (10) Randle (8) Kelly (2)


Kobe (30) Lets face it, he's playing at least 30.
Lin (30) Good for starting point guard
Young (28) Going to be second in scoring and will surprise on D like he did late last year.
Boozer (30) Redemption song
Hill (28) Injury prone, just enough to get his 10/10
Nash (12) will come in for shooting and quick stints
Henry (14) could avg more if he plays D
Randle (22) Wildcard
Kelly (12) I think another surprise on defense. Will stretch floor and earn more min.
Davis (18) Will either break out or break dance with Sacre on the sideline.
Clarkson (6) Really like this kid. May take Nash Minutes. Next Westbrook?
Wes (10) The Joker. He could fill in the holes or completely get benched giving up his minutes to the others.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby Damian Necronamous on Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:27 pm

Not sure why anyone would think that Kobe will play less than 34mpg...as long as he's healthy, he's still Kobe.

The thought of him only getting 28mpg when he himself says he's "100% healthy" is laughable, especially on this team.
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