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Postby Savory Griddles on Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:49 am

Lets Go Lakers wrote:McDermott looked pretty good in summer league. It looks like his stroke might be legit and he might be a lights out shooter. If he can be like a 15-17 ppg (which wouldn't surprise me one bit) and Gasol plays motivated and not to mention Rose returning healthy, they could be pretty darn good.


I think their pieces fit better together than Cleveland's. Love and Lebron are perfect for each other, but other than that, their parts aren't ideal. LBJ is so much better though than anyone not named Durant that eventually he'll figure it out. But I think for next season, they finish second overall, especially with the Pacers essentially losing their two best players from last year.
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Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:27 pm

it would be recycling but why not throw vet min offer at Sessions? can't hurt right? We all know we cant count on Nash and Clarkson is more of a combo guard. Sessions would do well to come here and play well on national spot light type team like ours if he wants another big contract.
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Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:36 pm

khmrP wrote:it would be recycling but why not throw vet min offer at Sessions? can't hurt right? We all know we cant count on Nash and Clarkson is more of a combo guard. Sessions would do well to come here and play well on national spot light type team like ours if he wants another big contract.


After shooting 47% from the field and 48% from 3PT during the regular season with us, he completely withered away in the playoffs shooting an abysmal 37% from the field and 18% from downtown. Drop 3 less ppg and apg as well.

Not really one for the spotlight.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:48 pm

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khmrP wrote:it would be recycling but why not throw vet min offer at Sessions? can't hurt right? We all know we cant count on Nash and Clarkson is more of a combo guard. Sessions would do well to come here and play well on national spot light type team like ours if he wants another big contract.


After shooting 47% from the field and 48% from 3PT during the regular season with us, he completely withered away in the playoffs shooting an abysmal 37% from the field and 18% from downtown. Drop 3 less ppg and apg as well.

Not really one for the spotlight.


he never been to the playoffs, gota give him a pass for that one and not like we had much of a chance anyways against Westbrook and OKC then, isn't that the year they got to the finals?
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:13 pm

I'd take Sessions for the min. if he wanted to come back, but I don't think that's realistic.
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Postby OX1947 on Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:22 pm

You do not trade a two way player like Wiggins, on a rookie contract for a guy who is known for great numbers and zero defense. Lebron will have to guard everyone again because Irving and Love are terrible defenders.

I think the Cavs are making a giant mistake and Minny is going to come away with a steal.
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Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:31 pm

therealdeal wrote:I'd take Sessions for the min. if he wanted to come back, but I don't think that's realistic.


if he was getting better offers he'd be sign by now....
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:47 pm

khmrP wrote:
therealdeal wrote:I'd take Sessions for the min. if he wanted to come back, but I don't think that's realistic.


if he was getting better offers he'd be sign by now....

Maybe and maybe not. Money is drying up quickly now so you could definitely be right. The thing is, why would he sign here for the minimum? He could sign with a team that'll be better than us and he could get just as much playing time or maybe more. The Rockets were interested in him a week ago. Here's a quote from him though on his free agency:

Sessions says he is exploring all of his possibilities during this free agency as he looks to sign a deal with one of the 32 NBA teams in need of a point guard.

"You wanna win, but the NBA is a business. You take the opportunity that is there and we're looking at all options. I like being on the rebuilding teams also. It's one of those things where those guys respect me and I can come in and show my leadership, because I've been around a little bit," Sessions said.

Sources close to the former University of Nevada star say he's had discussions with a few NBA teams, including the Houston Rockets.

We're a rebuilding team, but he's been here before and didn't have a great time. For whatever reason, I just don't see it happening. Maybe it does, but I just don't see it.
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Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:56 pm

As I said, just throw him an offer and see if it sticks...not gona be mad/sad or whatever if he says no. I thought he had a good experience till the playoffs and he might have stayed had it not been for the Nash deal.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:04 pm

I agree with that. I'd try, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to me for him to want to be here that's all.

The quote definitely seems to point to him not wanting to be in the playoff spotlight and that kind of tells me he wouldn't get along with Kobe well. Although I could be reading too much into that.
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:47 pm

sessions wants to be in a situation where he gets an opportunity/as much playing time as possible.

Even if all the teams offer him the same he will go were he gets to play the most. It's just reason that I'd be shocked if he signed with us. Yes we need a PG but the opportunity we would have for him is not going to be greater than most out there.
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Shawn Marion Could Pick Cavaliers Over Pacers

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Free agent forward Shawn Marion is leaning strongly toward signing with Cleveland over Indiana, league sources told Yahoo Sports.


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Postby Lets Go Lakers on Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:38 pm

OX1947 wrote:You do not trade a two way player like Wiggins, on a rookie contract for a guy who is known for great numbers and zero defense. Lebron will have to guard everyone again because Irving and Love are terrible defenders.

I think the Cavs are making a giant mistake and Minny is going to come away with a steal.


Agreed. No way would I trade away a guy with that much talent and potential. Even if his offense isn't solid, his D will be there from the get go. And so will be his athleticism, which means transition points, slashing to the hoop, put backs, and jumping passing lanes. He will impact the game even if his offense isn't there. Without him, Bron will have to expend more energy on both ends.
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Postby Roscoe on Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:03 pm

Lets Go Lakers wrote:
OX1947 wrote:You do not trade a two way player like Wiggins, on a rookie contract for a guy who is known for great numbers and zero defense. Lebron will have to guard everyone again because Irving and Love are terrible defenders.

I think the Cavs are making a giant mistake and Minny is going to come away with a steal.


Agreed. No way would I trade away a guy with that much talent and potential. Even if his offense isn't solid, his D will be there from the get go. And so will be his athleticism, which means transition points, slashing to the hoop, put backs, and jumping passing lanes. He will impact the game even if his offense isn't there. Without him, Bron will have to expend more energy on both ends.


100% agree with you both. The Cavs will not win anything with Kyrie, LBJ, and KLove. That's literally Miami Heat 2.0 minus the experience and defense. LBJ will have to do everything (defensively and offensively) yet again, which will shorten his career and the Cavs' championship window. I would argue that the big 3 of Westbrook, Durant, and Ibaka are overall way better than those three because they play hard on both sides of the ball.

When you have the most hyped prospect since Lebron and the opportunity groom him under the wing of the man himself you do not pass that up under any circumstance. That's like the Lakers having the opportunity to draft Lebron as a rookie when Kobe was in his prime. Things like this never happen. The Cavs are very stupid if they go through with this trade giving up Wiggins for Love.
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Postby LOSLAKERS on Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:28 pm

I somewhat agree. I think Love, Kyrie and James is certainly better than Miami's 3, at least how they were as of last year. Even if they aren't as good, what they do have is like every free agent wanting to go over there cheap and the advantage of being in the East and not having to battle through a series of worthy opponents. There's also the chance that they get into the Finals and while they are playing the "best" team of the West, it's a good match up for them.
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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:40 am

Omer is an unrestricked FA next year; having watched a few of the Rockets games, I'm starting to find him more and more appeasing. Would be a decent pickup, IMO...wonder how much he'll go for next year on the open market...
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Postby khmrP on Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:23 pm

Lets Go Lakers wrote:
OX1947 wrote:You do not trade a two way player like Wiggins, on a rookie contract for a guy who is known for great numbers and zero defense. Lebron will have to guard everyone again because Irving and Love are terrible defenders.

I think the Cavs are making a giant mistake and Minny is going to come away with a steal.


Agreed. No way would I trade away a guy with that much talent and potential. Even if his offense isn't solid, his D will be there from the get go. And so will be his athleticism, which means transition points, slashing to the hoop, put backs, and jumping passing lanes. He will impact the game even if his offense isn't there. Without him, Bron will have to expend more energy on both ends.


its alright 6 years from now Wiggins will be asking out just like Love, KG, etc. :man10:
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Postby khmrP on Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:24 pm

LOSLAKERS wrote:I somewhat agree. I think Love, Kyrie and James is certainly better than Miami's 3, at least how they were as of last year. Even if they aren't as good, what they do have is like every free agent wanting to go over there cheap and the advantage of being in the East and not having to battle through a series of worthy opponents. There's also the chance that they get into the Finals and while they are playing the "best" team of the West, it's a good match up for them.


I think the Clev 3 is better individually then Mia's 3 but wonder how much Love/Irving will suck up their pride and be James side kick the way Bosh/Wade had to tone down their game.
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Postby LakerFanIam on Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:57 pm

^^^ The difference is… Wade & LeBron had to adapt to being on the floor together because they played a similar type of game… Bosh had to become a stretch 4 in order to open up the lane for the other two..

Kyrie, Love & Lebron are a much more balanced line up..
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Postby khmrP on Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:23 pm

^^^Irving dominates the ball as much as Wade does, so not sure what you talking bout "balanced" only advantage is Love is already a stretch 4 but his D on PnR wont be anything like Bosh lvl.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:28 pm

LakerFanIam wrote:^^^ The difference is… Wade & LeBron had to adapt to being on the floor together because they played a similar type of game… Bosh had to become a stretch 4 in order to open up the lane for the other two..

Kyrie, Love & Lebron are a much more balanced line up..

How so? Kyrie needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Love has never played with a player of Kyrie's caliber before in the NBA let alone LeBron. None of them were good defenders last year.

Bosh and Wade had to adjust their games at first... because they were better than Love and Kyrie. Wade, for all the hate I shower on that douche, is a 3-time NBA Champion and a Finals MVP winner. Kyrie has absolutely no idea what that means or feels like. There was a time when Wade was a very good defender. Kyrie has no idea what that means. Bosh was absolutely crucial to Miami's wins in the Finals. His ability to score under pressure, put the ball on the floor and get to the rim, and just get timely baskets was what set them apart. Love doesn't know the first thing about that.

Everyone wants to say they go well together, but I don't see it. Especially not at first. They're going to have a tough time for a while figuring each other out.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby LakerJack on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:36 pm

So Love is gone for 2015. Who do the Lakers go after to go with Klay Thompson?
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Postby Rooscooter on Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:41 pm

LakerJack wrote:So Love is gone for 2015. Who do the Lakers go after to go with Klay Thompson?


Why would GS let him walk for nothing?

Why would he come here if he was FA?

I just don't see us attracting good players unless we way over pay.....
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Postby LakersN4 on Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:59 pm

Klay said he wants the max & GS still wasn't willing to trade him for Love.. Don't think he's going anywhere.. I expect Marc Gasol to be our #1 target, might go after Rondo too unless Lin has a great season.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby earvinfr on Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:26 am

Stupid Wolves. Trading Love for 2 players having yet to prove they can play at a high level, while they could get Nash, 2 time MVP and future HOF. :man2:
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