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Postby LakersN4 on Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:13 pm

Something CL posters probably never thought they'd see me type.. Maybe we should have went after Monroe.. It's looking like he's going to have to settle for 10-12M a year or play out the QO. Would definitely take Monroe over Hill in our current situation. Would be cool if he ends up playing out his QO & becoming a UFA.. Add him to the crop of available bigs.
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Postby Center Court on Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:25 pm

Doc Brown wrote:The NBA isn't going to do anything about this. This is their wet dream, a super team in a small market, lead by the face of the NBA.


The NBA's wet dream is LA vs NY with Kobe VS LeBron on opposite sides. I don't know why people think the NBA would prefer small markets to dominate. It took the Spurs 14 years and 5 titles to become a team people are excited to watch. The Cavs will be a must watch out the gate but still it's not of any benefit for LeBron to be in a small market.

Right now, superstars are bigger than the sport. Any time LeBron is in the finals it's a huge $ win. But the NBA has no allegiance to seeing the Cavs in the finals.
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Postby LakersN4 on Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:56 pm

Greg Monroe signed the QO & will be an unrestricted FA next summer. Monroe + Marc seems like a good use of that flexibility we created.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2014/08/12/greg-monroe-restricted-free-agent-pistons-qualifying-offer/12940893/
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:31 pm

LakersN4 wrote:Greg Monroe signed the QO & will be an unrestricted FA next summer. Monroe + Marc seems like a good use of that flexibility we created.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2014/08/12/greg-monroe-restricted-free-agent-pistons-qualifying-offer/12940893/

great news for us! Now gives us the possibility of signing him next when when we will have a lot of CAP room again
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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:43 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Greg Monroe signed the QO & will be an unrestricted FA next summer. Monroe + Marc seems like a good use of that flexibility we created.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2014/08/12/greg-monroe-restricted-free-agent-pistons-qualifying-offer/12940893/

great news for us! Now gives us the possibility of signing him next when when we will have a lot of CAP room again


Quite frankly, I'd rather go after a True Center...Go get me a Robin Lopez or an Omer Asik next year, and I'm good...
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:53 pm

lukewaltonsdad wrote:
Battle Tested20 wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Greg Monroe signed the QO & will be an unrestricted FA next summer. Monroe + Marc seems like a good use of that flexibility we created.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2014/08/12/greg-monroe-restricted-free-agent-pistons-qualifying-offer/12940893/

great news for us! Now gives us the possibility of signing him next when when we will have a lot of CAP room again


Quite frankly, I'd rather go after a True Center...Go get me a Robin Lopez or an Omer Asik next year, and I'm good...

yeah, I'm not completely against that but its nice that another option is available to us now that he signed his qualifying offer
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Postby LakersN4 on Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:28 pm

lukewaltonsdad wrote:
Battle Tested20 wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Greg Monroe signed the QO & will be an unrestricted FA next summer. Monroe + Marc seems like a good use of that flexibility we created.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2014/08/12/greg-monroe-restricted-free-agent-pistons-qualifying-offer/12940893/

great news for us! Now gives us the possibility of signing him next when when we will have a lot of CAP room again


Quite frankly, I'd rather go after a True Center...Go get me a Robin Lopez or an Omer Asik next year, and I'm good...

Depends on how good Randle is.. If he's good enough to start/be our best big, no doubt you focus on getting a guy like Asik or Marc that can provide the defense that I doubt Randle will.. Hopefully Randle is legit & we only have to get a big that can anchor the defense. I'd love to add a starting big (Marc/Asik/Monroe) & Rondo.. I love Lin & all but Rondo is such a competitor, I just think he'd mesh VERY well with Kobe.
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Postby Savory Griddles on Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:40 am

LakersN4 wrote:
lukewaltonsdad wrote:
Battle Tested20 wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Greg Monroe signed the QO & will be an unrestricted FA next summer. Monroe + Marc seems like a good use of that flexibility we created.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2014/08/12/greg-monroe-restricted-free-agent-pistons-qualifying-offer/12940893/

great news for us! Now gives us the possibility of signing him next when when we will have a lot of CAP room again


Quite frankly, I'd rather go after a True Center...Go get me a Robin Lopez or an Omer Asik next year, and I'm good...

Depends on how good Randle is.. If he's good enough to start/be our best big, no doubt you focus on getting a guy like Asik or Marc that can provide the defense that I doubt Randle will.. Hopefully Randle is legit & we only have to get a big that can anchor the defense. I'd love to add a starting big (Marc/Asik/Monroe) & Rondo.. I love Lin & all but Rondo is such a competitor, I just think he'd mesh VERY well with Kobe.


I'm not worried about signing someone who would mesh well with Kobe. I mean, next season may be his final season.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:04 am

And by the way Monroe is probably one of the few true offensive Centers left. Defensively he's not great and he's not a rim protector, so maybe not a great fit next to Randle.

I completely understand wanting a guy who is just a board eater and a defender next to Randle if/when Randle develops into the offensive weapon he CAN be, but that's not this year and it's probably not next year either.

Until then, I take the young version of Pau over any of the other Centers available next summer outside of Marc Gasol. Marc would be perfect fit next to Randle actually so I take him first, but Monroe would be the next Center on my list for sure.
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Postby lotus on Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:03 am

I thought Monroe's natural position was a point forward, or even point center coming out of high school. I don't see him as a true center, but the NBA has changed so maybe that is where he should play. Whatever is decided on him next year, I hope the Lakers don't interfere with Randle's development by crowding the interior.
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Postby SFGOLDRUSHER on Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:05 am

therealdeal wrote:And by the way Monroe is probably one of the few true offensive Centers left. Defensively he's not great and he's not a rim protector, so maybe not a great fit next to Randle.

I completely understand wanting a guy who is just a board eater and a defender next to Randle if/when Randle develops into the offensive weapon he CAN be, but that's not this year and it's probably not next year either.

Until then, I take the young version of Pau over any of the other Centers available next summer outside of Marc Gasol. Marc would be perfect fit next to Randle actually so I take him first, but Monroe would be the next Center on my list for sure.


I agree with what you said 100%. Do yall out there think(even though he said he wants to stay long term,but IMOPO to stay low key&make fans happy), we have a shot at Lamarcus Aldridge? because that would simply be a home run&I have no reason to believe why he wouldnt be able to play next to Randle. Definitely my 1A plan,1B)Marc Gasol,1C)Monroe IF theres VALUE there.

That would establish our bigs&set us up for Kobes successor etc... once again, IMOPO.
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Postby lotus on Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:13 am

Getting Marc Gasol is a pipe dream. Why on earth would he leave Memphis for L.A.? He was traded away from L.A., his brother lost interest in L.A. for Chicago and felt dissed by the organization, he will make more money in Memphis, he is on a much better team, he doesn't seem like the type that is looking to expand his brand like a D12, and he already plays well with Z-Bo. What is the incentive for him to come to the Lakers? To teach Randle to play like Z-Bo? Better cross Marc off of the 2015 plan.
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Postby SFGOLDRUSHER on Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:24 am

lotus wrote:Getting Marc Gasol is a pipe dream. Why on earth would he leave Memphis for L.A.? He was traded away from L.A., his brother lost interest in L.A. for Chicago and felt dissed by the organization, he will make more money in Memphis, he is on a much better team, he doesn't seem like the type that is looking to expand his brand like a D12, and he already plays well with Z-Bo. What is the incentive for him to come to the Lakers? To teach Randle to play like Z-Bo? Better cross Marc off of the 2015 plan.


I respect your thoughts&opinion but for you to say its a pipe dream is not a fair statement. Lets not get it twisted, the trade was a business decision&landed his brother 2 championships&also allowed him to be the man in Memphis. Why would he possibly want to come here? Kobe,Randle will be only 20 years old next year&cap flexibility to put pieces around him that could be greater than Z-bo&Conley. Time will tell, let the season begin already.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:53 pm

SFGOLDRUSHER wrote:
therealdeal wrote:And by the way Monroe is probably one of the few true offensive Centers left. Defensively he's not great and he's not a rim protector, so maybe not a great fit next to Randle.

I completely understand wanting a guy who is just a board eater and a defender next to Randle if/when Randle develops into the offensive weapon he CAN be, but that's not this year and it's probably not next year either.

Until then, I take the young version of Pau over any of the other Centers available next summer outside of Marc Gasol. Marc would be perfect fit next to Randle actually so I take him first, but Monroe would be the next Center on my list for sure.


I agree with what you said 100%. Do yall out there think(even though he said he wants to stay long term,but IMOPO to stay low key&make fans happy), we have a shot at BIG L.A.? because that would simply be a home run&I have no reason to believe why he wouldnt be able to play next to Randle. Definitely my 1A plan,1B)Marc Gasol,1C)Monroe IF theres VALUE there.

That would establish our bigs&set us up for Kobes successor etc... once again, IMOPO.

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Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:48 pm

lotus wrote:Getting Marc Gasol is a pipe dream. Why on earth would he leave Memphis for L.A.? He was traded away from L.A., his brother lost interest in L.A. for Chicago and felt dissed by the organization, he will make more money in Memphis, he is on a much better team, he doesn't seem like the type that is looking to expand his brand like a D12, and he already plays well with Z-Bo. What is the incentive for him to come to the Lakers? To teach Randle to play like Z-Bo? Better cross Marc off of the 2015 plan.


Why? Reason 1 - With Nash, Boozer, Lin expiring, Hill and Davis on team/player options, the Lakers will have cal space to sign him to a lucrative contract.

2. Marc plays 3rd option behind Conley and Zbo offensively, if he comes here, he'd easily be the 2nd option.

3. Memphis without Hollins coaching is not the same successful team you think they were. They lack a closer on that team.
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Postby Center Court on Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:37 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:
lotus wrote:Getting Marc Gasol is a pipe dream. Why on earth would he leave Memphis for L.A.? He was traded away from L.A., his brother lost interest in L.A. for Chicago and felt dissed by the organization, he will make more money in Memphis, he is on a much better team, he doesn't seem like the type that is looking to expand his brand like a D12, and he already plays well with Z-Bo. What is the incentive for him to come to the Lakers? To teach Randle to play like Z-Bo? Better cross Marc off of the 2015 plan.


Why? Reason 1 - With Nash, Boozer, Lin expiring, Hill and Davis on team/player options, the Lakers will have cal space to sign him to a lucrative contract.

2. Marc plays 3rd option behind Conley and Zbo offensively, if he comes here, he'd easily be the 2nd option.

3. Memphis without Hollins coaching is not the same successful team you think they were. They lack a closer on that team.


Personally, I ssee Marc in NY. He's a perfect triangle fit, has the Pau connection to Phil and triangle, and I think Melo will recruit him hard.
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Postby SFGOLDRUSHER on Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:43 pm

therealdeal wrote:
SFGOLDRUSHER wrote:
therealdeal wrote:And by the way Monroe is probably one of the few true offensive Centers left. Defensively he's not great and he's not a rim protector, so maybe not a great fit next to Randle.

I completely understand wanting a guy who is just a board eater and a defender next to Randle if/when Randle develops into the offensive weapon he CAN be, but that's not this year and it's probably not next year either.

Until then, I take the young version of Pau over any of the other Centers available next summer outside of Marc Gasol. Marc would be perfect fit next to Randle actually so I take him first, but Monroe would be the next Center on my list for sure.


I agree with what you said 100%. Do yall out there think(even though he said he wants to stay long term,but IMOPO to stay low key&make fans happy), we have a shot at Lamarcus Aldridge? because that would simply be a home run&I have no reason to believe why he wouldnt be able to play next to Randle. Definitely my 1A plan,1B)Marc Gasol,1C)Monroe IF theres VALUE there.

That would establish our bigs&set us up for Kobes successor etc... once again, IMOPO.

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BIG L.A.= Lamarcus Aldridge :)
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:07 pm

:man10:

My bad. That makes sense... I don't think there's any chance of that happening though. Aldridge has said he wants to go down as the greatest Blazer of all time and he's certainly got a chance at it.
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Postby LakersN4 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:42 pm

My plan for bigs with our cap space revolves around Randle.. If he's already a 15-16 PPG player that looks like he'll score 20, I forget Monroe & go after Marc & Asik as my #1 & 2 targets.. If Randle isn't ready to make an impact we really can't wait on him, he'll have to fight for minutes behind Monroe & whoever else we get.
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Postby SFGOLDRUSHER on Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:23 pm

LakersN4 wrote:My plan for bigs with our cap space revolves around Randle.. If he's already a 15-16 PPG player that looks like he'll score 20, I forget Monroe & go after Marc & Asik as my #1 & 2 targets.. If Randle isn't ready to make an impact we really can't wait on him, he'll have to fight for minutes behind Monroe & whoever else we get.


I agree but darn it I want Lamarcus with a passion..im guessing hes waiting for new TV deal to go through before cashing in. We have to go full force Marc Gasol. Another question, if we HAVE to give max money to Monroe/Asik, who would you rather have?
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Postby LakersN4 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:21 am

SFGOLDRUSHER wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:My plan for bigs with our cap space revolves around Randle.. If he's already a 15-16 PPG player that looks like he'll score 20, I forget Monroe & go after Marc & Asik as my #1 & 2 targets.. If Randle isn't ready to make an impact we really can't wait on him, he'll have to fight for minutes behind Monroe & whoever else we get.


I agree but darn it I want Lamarcus with a passion..im guessing hes waiting for new TV deal to go through before cashing in. We have to go full force Marc Gasol. Another question, if we HAVE to give max money to Monroe/Asik, who would you rather have?

If we have to give the max to 1 of Monroe or Asik I give it to Monroe, because there's 0 potential for Asik to give you max production.. Monroe has that potential to break out & be an allstar. But I wouldn't give either the max.. There are a ton of quality players that will be getting paid.

Love
Aldridge
Marc
Rondo
Kawhi
Dragic
Klay
Monroe
Kemba
Knight


A lot of big contracts are going to be given out next summer.

That still leaves guys like Asik, Jordan, Biyombo, Wesley Matthews, Millsap, Jimmy Butler..

I'd love to get Dragic for Curry money, Matthews for around 2M more than the MLE, & which ever of those rim protectors we can afford. Asik/Jordan/Biyombo, I'll take any of them.

Dragic
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I'll take that over chasing a single superstar.
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Postby LakersN4 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:30 pm

Would you guys take on Jennings contract & Will Bynum along with Monroe for Nash, Lin, Sacre, Hou 1st?
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:57 pm

LakersN4 wrote:Would you guys take on Jennings contract & Will Bynum along with Monroe for Nash, Lin, Sacre, Hou 1st?

No I'll pass.

I don't like Monroe enough to give up Lin/1st. I'm also not high on Jennings as well.
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Re: Free Agent Frenzy: Lakers Work Out Beasley (408)

Postby Savory Griddles on Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:14 pm

therealdeal wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Would you guys take on Jennings contract & Will Bynum along with Monroe for Nash, Lin, Sacre, Hou 1st?

No I'll pass.

I don't like Monroe enough to give up Lin/1st. I'm also not high on Jennings as well.


Although you'd have to be high to pay him that much. :man12:
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