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Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:11 pm

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khmrP wrote:Could we afford BOTH Lance and Bledsoe? Say $12mill for Bled and $10 for Lance. Would it work if we did get Embiid? Thats really athletic, defensive trio...with that scenario is there any cap room left to keep 2 of the 3 we want back in Farmar, Young, Hill? This lineup isn't true championship lvl team but could be fun to watch
Bledsoe
Lance
Kobe
???
Embiid


Now that would be a team that could compete right away. Hill at the PF would round that team out perfectly. However, I do not think MDA would be the right coach for Embiid at Center.


oh should've noted that, I'm praying MDA is fired the very minute the last game is played :man10: Mitch should be like Chappel here sitting right next to MDA on the last game of the season

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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby kenzo on Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:14 pm

No way in hell i would give Deng what he is asking for (10+ mil a season). I would also look at Stephenson before i would look at Bledsoe/Monroe.
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Postby Savory Griddles on Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:15 pm

khmrP wrote:Could we afford BOTH Lance and Bledsoe? Say $12mill for Bled and $10 for Lance. Would it work if we did get Embiid? Thats really athletic, defensive trio...with that scenario is there any cap room left to keep 2 of the 3 we want back in Farmar, Young, Hill? This lineup isn't true championship lvl team but could be fun to watch
Bledsoe
Lance
Kobe
???
Embiid


Someone told me about Bledsoe having questionable knees so I did some research. His long term prognosis doesn't look good. Not sure if it would be bad over the next 4 years which is all the Lakers can sign him for.

I would rather go after Stephenson and Lowry. The advantage of Stephenson is you can slot him at the 2 or 3.
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:59 pm

Yeah I really like Bledsoe and I think he can be a good player, but he's got two knee injuries in 3 years or something like that. That's the only reason I'd be hesitant to out bid him.
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Postby Doc Brown on Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:51 am

Suns to trade picks for veteran help?

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The Phoenix Suns currently own three picks -- No. 14 (own), No. 18 (from Washington) and No. 27 (from Indiana) -- in the first round of the 2014 NBA draft. The Suns have enough youth on the team, so the plan is to use those picks to bring in some veteran help.

"I think it's unlikely we bring in three rookies to the Suns next year," general manager Ryan McDonough told ArizonaSports.com. "We obviously have Alex Len and Archie Goodwin ... it's tough to develop rookies and also try to win a lot of games."

McDonough added: "Our preference would be, as I said when I arrived, to trade for a star if we can do that. We feel like we've traded for some pretty good players in Eric Bledsoe and Miles Plumlee. Gerald Green also played a big role for us this year. But, we're going to continue to explore the trade market."

McDonough's biggest need is to upgrade the small forward position and that will be his focus in the draft and with trade scenarios. The Suns should also have plenty of salary cap room in July, so they can improve the roster via free agency, too.


Hopefully we can help facilitate something with the Suns because, unlike them, we sure could use another 1st round pick, even if it's a late round pick.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Savory Griddles on Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:41 am

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Suns to trade picks for veteran help?

By Nick Borges | ESPN.com
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The Phoenix Suns currently own three picks -- No. 14 (own), No. 18 (from Washington) and No. 27 (from Indiana) -- in the first round of the 2014 NBA draft. The Suns have enough youth on the team, so the plan is to use those picks to bring in some veteran help.

"I think it's unlikely we bring in three rookies to the Suns next year," general manager Ryan McDonough told ArizonaSports.com. "We obviously have Alex Len and Archie Goodwin ... it's tough to develop rookies and also try to win a lot of games."

McDonough added: "Our preference would be, as I said when I arrived, to trade for a star if we can do that. We feel like we've traded for some pretty good players in Eric Bledsoe and Miles Plumlee. Gerald Green also played a big role for us this year. But, we're going to continue to explore the trade market."

McDonough's biggest need is to upgrade the small forward position and that will be his focus in the draft and with trade scenarios. The Suns should also have plenty of salary cap room in July, so they can improve the roster via free agency, too.


Hopefully we can help facilitate something with the Suns because, unlike them, we sure could use another 1st round pick, even if it's a late round pick.


Pau in a sign and trade for the 27th and our 2015 first rounder back. But this begs the question: If this is what they're thinking now, why didn't Pau for Okafor and the 27th happen at the deadline?
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby trodgers on Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:04 pm

Cheap(ish) players who can contribute we could look to add? We're going to need bodies in that lineup...

PG
Shaun Livingston
Jerryd Bayless
Jimmer Fredette
Aaron Brooks

WING
Danny Granger
Thabo Sefolosha
Mike Miller

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Postby revgen on Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:43 pm

I like Sefolosha. But I think the Thunder will keep him. Granger may make more $$$ next season if he plays well for the Clips. I don't know if we'll match. Livingston would be a nice addition if we keep Pau and Kaman. He's tall enough to throw nice post-entry passes without the pass being picked off. Solid defender too.

As far as the cheap bigs go, I'm not interested. I'd rather get a young guy or keep Sacre.
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Postby karacha on Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:13 pm

I pretty much agree with revgen. :beer:
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Postby trodgers on Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:28 pm

We can't just roll with Love and Sacre though!
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:36 pm

It's a shame that we will already have a log jam at PG with Nash, Kendall, and more than likely Farmar coming back to the Lakers because I really love Shawn Livingston's game. He's an excellent defender with his long arms and has a great mid-range game with the ability to post opposing team's PG up as well.
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Postby trodgers on Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:50 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:It's a shame that we will already have a log jam at PG with Nash, Kendall, and more than likely Farmar coming back to the Lakers because I really love Shawn Livingston's game. He's an excellent defender with his long arms and has a great mid-range game with the ability to post opposing team's PG up as well.

Maybe Nash will come to his senses...
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Postby Center Court on Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:43 pm

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Battle Tested20 wrote:It's a shame that we will already have a log jam at PG with Nash, Kendall, and more than likely Farmar coming back to the Lakers because I really love Shawn Livingston's game. He's an excellent defender with his long arms and has a great mid-range game with the ability to post opposing team's PG up as well.

Maybe Nash will come to his senses...


Probably not. Can't blame him though.

Besides,(gut tells me) we're drafting Exum so it'd be a nice little university style education with Kobe and Nash
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Postby Doc Brown on Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:03 pm

trodgers wrote:Cheap(ish) players who can contribute we could look to add? We're going to need bodies in that lineup...

PG
Shaun Livingston
Jerryd Bayless
Jimmer Fredette
Aaron Brooks

WING
Danny Granger
Thabo Sefolosha
Mike Miller

BIG
Emeka Okafor
DeJuan Blair
Andray Blatche


Was it you that did a thread in past years looking at all the potential free agents team by team?
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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:03 pm

Pau for the 18th, and draft Napier.

They wouldn't offer squat when they thought we were desperate to unload Pau. Now if they're desperate to unload a pick, we can turnabout with fair play. :man12:
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Postby trodgers on Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:45 am

Doc Brown wrote:
trodgers wrote:Cheap(ish) players who can contribute we could look to add? We're going to need bodies in that lineup...

PG
Shaun Livingston
Jerryd Bayless
Jimmer Fredette
Aaron Brooks

WING
Danny Granger
Thabo Sefolosha
Mike Miller

BIG
Emeka Okafor
DeJuan Blair
Andray Blatche


Was it you that did a thread in past years looking at all the potential free agents team by team?

I don't know about that specifically. I've posted a lot of team by team lists and "best fit" lists over the years. What are your thoughts?
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Postby Doc Brown on Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:51 am

On free agents or the thread topic?
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Postby trodgers on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:55 am

Free agents. Or is this a subtle way of telling me to make another thread? :man10:
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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:49 pm

^^Hard to tell…. Doc is typically very subtle…..
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Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:08 pm

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Postby Doc Brown on Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:15 pm

trodgers wrote:Free agents. Or is this a subtle way of telling me to make another thread? :man10:


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I was talking about the free agents part I swear. :man12:

My pipe would be to sign Stephenson, Monroe and build there or use them as trading pieces for a superstar player.

Realistically, I think we need to get players 3-14 setup and leave a max spot open to add in if it comes available to us.

Aside from the guys I think we should bring back (Hill, Young, Farmar, Kelly), I like these players

PG - Sessions, Livingston
SG - Morrow (PO)
SF - CJ Miles, Miller, Rush, Beasley, Marvin Williams
PF - Jason Smith, Blair, James Johnson
C - Okafor, O'Neal, Gray

A couple things need to happen next season

1.) Kobe needs to work himself back
2.) We need to lock in our bench for multiple years to get continuity
3.) Nail our 1st rounder
4.) Keep a max spot open that can come to complete the team not start it

Taking a SAS approach and having a team 1-10, instead of top heavy with stars, will preserve Kobe throughout the season and maybe lengthen his career.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Barnstable on Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:45 pm

Doc Brown wrote:1.) Kobe needs to work himself back
2.) We need to lock in our bench for multiple years to get continuity
3.) Nail our 1st rounder
4.) Keep a max spot open that can come to complete the team not start it


Yes to all that and Monroe/Stephenson+ a good 1st rounder. That would be my ideal summer scenario right now.

But I think it might be Stephenson or Bledso depending on who we draft. Either way, we probably can't go wrong. Move Kobe to the 3 where he doesn't have to chase the quicker guards around as much and he'll be in much better shape for the season IMO.

Above all else, yes, lock in that bench for multiple years. we have a great selection of players. I don't however see us being able to afford anyone else is we get Monro/Stephenson/Bledso

Unfortunately in this scenario, I don't see us being able to keep Hill :man5:
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:26 am

Yea with that scenario it definitely puts the emphasis on a young trio (Monroe/Stephenson/1st) + Kobe and nothing else. But it gives us 3 trading chips for the future or a young core to build around. I wouldn't mind that, neither would I mind the approach to getting the bench intact as I outlined above.

What I don't want to see is us NOT doing anything and just sitting waiting for something to fall in our laps (I.E. waiting for the summer of whatever for big free agents). We'll lose our players from this year, we won't get any solid players in FA and we will end up signing 1 year deals every year which is counter-productive to what we should be doing right now (Rebuilding).
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