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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby thkthebest on Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:54 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:Honestly do we really want to replace a coach that gets.constantly ridiculed for being associated with a potato with a coach associated with a potato chip?

We need a coach that will be respected, not a made a mockery of

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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby pound4pound1 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:08 pm

therealdeal wrote:^ gcc is killing this thread.

We don't need Sloan. We don't need Jackson. We don't need _____.

We have the coaching pieces here in our own staff.




so how long does the FO wait..if you have qualified replacements on the staff?

0-10?
5-20?
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:13 pm

I'd say if we have a losing record in 3 weeks. Or even a .500 record in 3 weeks.

That'd be more than ample time for Brown to have gotten this team going in the right direction. If it's not done by then, we don't have enough time to reconcile things before the All-Star break and the home stretch.

Then again, you never know. The FO might be looking at this week and thinking "a team of this caliber cannot start 0-3". Brown is certainly on the hotseat.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:14 pm

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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby John3:16 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:18 pm

Del Harris once said every coach is on the hot seat after losing 3 straight.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby kray28 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:42 pm

John3:16 wrote:Del Harris once said every coach is on the hot seat after losing 3 straight.


Delmer was very prescient.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby GinoDB on Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:49 pm

we need to keep things as simple as possible, Pringles will make that happen.

Heat are keeping it simple and look awesome
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby lakersyunowin on Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:01 pm

or we could bring in pringles AND jvg ...offense/defense.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby Center Court on Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:25 pm

Can we create a list of active coaches actually worse than Brown?

Worse:
Marc Jackson
Jacque Vaughn
Keith Smart
Casey
Stotts

About the same:
Woodson
Johnson
Spo

Better:
Karl
Pop
Adleman
Brooks
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby CarFlagChris on Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:45 pm

Weezy wrote:
CarFlagChris wrote:Rudy T was fired after 41 games, but the season already was lost.
We should not make this mistake again.
Fire him now.


I don't think he was actually fired, he resigned if I remember right, health issues, stress. I believe we were on pace to make the playoffs when he resigned too, it just fell apart for many reasons after that. We weren't gong to win anything of note that season, but I don't think it was Rudy T, it was the roster, ancient Brian Grant, ancient and injured Vlade Divac, bad PG's.


True, "resignation" was the official statement. However, he "resigned" after they lost at home to a team which only suited up about 9 nine players.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby CarFlagChris on Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:55 pm

therealdeal wrote:I'd say if we have a losing record in 3 weeks. Or even a .500 record in 3 weeks.

That'd be more than ample time for Brown to have gotten this team going in the right direction. If it's not done by then, we don't have enough time to reconcile things before the All-Star break and the home stretch.

Then again, you never know. The FO might be looking at this week and thinking "a team of this caliber cannot start 0-3". Brown is certainly on the hotseat.


By Friday night, the Lakers will be 0-3, unfortunately. There is little likelihood that they will be able to beat the Clippers.

The following games are easier. Even with Mike Brown, the Lakers should be able to beat Detroit and Utah, to go to 2-3, which might buy him some time. Of course, I thought the Lakers would have won at least one preseason game.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby JTM-Lakers on Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:58 pm

I have no idea for replacement now. I just feel we saw it coming :bang:
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby Lakerjones on Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:29 pm

gcclaker wrote:...if not D'Antoni, why not let Eddie Jordan take over and have Bickerstaff oversee the defense? Person and Ham will do the player shooting tweaks and pre-game preps respectively.


^^ I would be fine with this. I don't want D'Antoni at all. He won't get this team over the hump - his teams lack any kind of defensive commitment and discipline.

Jordan and Bickerstaff would be ok in my book.

It's not my first choice, though. I've already mentioned my preference for Jerry Sloan. He's a hall of fame coach who is currently unemployed but as of this summer he had been interested in the Bobcats head coaching job.

I would think he would jump at the chance to coach a world class veteran team such as this. The players, especially Nash and Kobe already respect this guy a great deal. Howard and Artest would have no choice but to fall in line. Pau would play harder for Sloan as well. He'd have to. Sloan doesn't take any crap. Veteran teams need veteran coaches, guys who speak the same language so to speak and won't waste their time.

Larry Brown is already coaching again so he's off the table. Sloan's the best candidate if you go outside. If you stay inside I still think Jordan and Bickerstaff will do a better job than Brown.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby lotus on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:01 pm

Lakerjones wrote:
gcclaker wrote:...if not D'Antoni, why not let Eddie Jordan take over and have Bickerstaff oversee the defense? Person and Ham will do the player shooting tweaks and pre-game preps respectively.


If you stay inside I still think Jordan and Bickerstaff will do a better job than Brown.

I was wondering if that's why Jordan and Bickerstaff were brought in, to step into the head coaching position should Brown be fired. It's not like it would he a difficult transition since it's Jordan's offense.

In fact it makes more sense if Jordan were the head coach. If you were to dump Brown, bring in an outsider now, then what was the point of bringing in Jordan? Plus he's a former Laker.

Also, thinking about 3 head coaches on staff, surely there are some "too many chefs in the kitchen" issues. If not now, then soon after more losses.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby Phil XI on Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:43 pm

We're effed.
Get 17!!
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby CarFlagChris on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:28 pm

CarFlagChris wrote:
Alleyhoops wrote:I don't see Brown getting his squad to put maximum effort out for him. I really don't think the players believe Brown can lead them to a championship and they feel like they are on their own. I think their confidence in him is shaky -- and has been since he arrived here.


Potential coaches Mitch should be calling:
B. Shaw
Phil Jackson
Mike D'Antonio
Larry Brown
Nate McMillan
Jerry Sloan

I would also call the lawyers, to determine if we can hire away Brian Scott or Coach K.

While the Lakers owe Brown $14 mil, lets not forget that Mitch pulled the trigger on Rudy T when his team had quit on him and lost a home game to some team's JV. In my opinion, opening night's dismal performance was worse.


I want D'Antonio for showtime or McMillan as a possible turn-around specialist.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:44 pm

I'm for McMillan as well. He's good on the defensive end, and he'd let Nash run the show without cluttering his head over too many set plays. And he'd call set plays when it's needed, like at the end of quarters.

D'Antoni won't get us to the finals, but the offense would be exciting.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby escobar8 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:57 am

i am so disapointed in brown...so i just want to see him geting fired...when i see roster and when i see what he is doing...i even think he would be improvement...

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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby XXIV on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:39 pm

^ I know that would be an improvement.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby CarFlagChris on Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:28 pm

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:I'm for McMillan as well. He's good on the defensive end, and he'd let Nash run the show without cluttering his head over too many set plays. And he'd call set plays when it's needed, like at the end of quarters.

D'Antoni won't get us to the finals, but the offense would be exciting.


Does anyone remember Phil Jackson's last year?
Getting to the finals is not a guarantee.

I don't care is the Lakers can beat an 0-2 team like Detroit. That is not a test.
The Lakers are still terrible and Brown cannot coach.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby DarthRekal on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:09 pm

we need that article about sloan coming here in here :jam2:
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby The Rock on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:25 pm

DarthRekal wrote:we need that article about sloan coming here in here :jam2:



this one?
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The 2012-13 season is only one week old, but Los Angeles Lakers head coach Mike Brown is already on the hot seat. Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol and Steve Nash are four of the best players in the NBA, future Hall-of-Famers who complement each other well. This star-studded group shouldn’t lose to depleted Dallas Mavericks or rebuilding Portland Trail Blazers. Wins aren’t celebrated, they’re expected. That’s the downside of coaching a juggernaut, just ask Erik Spoelstra.

When the Lakers lose, the finger of blame will be pointed at Brown. The Lakers defeated the Detroit Pistons on Sunday for their first win of the season, snapping a three-game losing streak and ending a five-and-a-half month drought. While the timely win kept Brown from losing his job, it doesn’t change the fact that his days in Los Angeles could be numbered. After the win, the always-blunt Bryant said that the players “were good,” but acknowledged that Brown really needed the win.

“I think it’s more of a relief for Mike than it is for anybody else,” Bryant said.

Fans have already started calling for Brown’s job and many of his players have started wondering if he’s the right person to lead the team. Behind closed doors, they’ve questioned Brown’s rotation and how players have been utilized through four games.

While the three-game losing streak increased the amount of frustration in the locker room, it first surfaced several months ago. After the Lakers acquired Howard and Nash, several veteran free agents wanted to sign for the minimum so that they could compete for a championship in Los Angeles. However, Brown made it clear that he wasn’t going to expand his rotation regardless of who signed. This scared away the free agents and kept the Lakers from further bolstering their roster, which frustrated many players.

Many within NBA circles believe it’s only a matter of time before Brown is fired. Jerry Sloan and Mike D’Antoni are two names that have surfaced as possible replacements for Brown.

“Jerry Sloan to L.A. by December 1,” one league source predicted. “Nash and Howard are the new Stockton and Malone. He wants a ring, not to mention the money. He didn’t seriously consider Orlando, Charlotte or Portland [openings] over the summer because he knew Los Angeles would open up.”

Brown has one of the toughest jobs in basketball. He’ll be blamed when the Lakers lose. His decisions will be second-guessed and he’ll have to answer question after question: Why is Bryant playing so many minutes? Why isn’t Howard getting more touches? Why isn’t Nash handling the ball more? Why did Jodie Meeks fall out of the rotation? Why is this team running the Princeton offense?

Having four future Hall of Famers in your rotation is every head coach’s dream, but only when things are going well. If the team struggles, as the Lakers have through four games, it can be nightmare. Fair or not, Brown will be on the hot seat and under the microscope all season long.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby XXIV on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:29 pm

I will be beyond happy if Sloan comes to coach this team. He's definitely the type of coach we need for this team, someone the players will actually respect and someone who knows what he's doing.
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

Postby JGC on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:49 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:Honestly do we really want to replace a coach that gets.constantly ridiculed for being associated with a potato with a coach associated with a potato chip?

We need a coach that will be respected, not a made a mockery of


To be fair, Phil was associated with fried chicken around here (Colonel Sanders).
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Re: Get a new Head Coach Discussion

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