Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby Kobe8Fan on Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:54 pm

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Lakers community misses you. Happy birthday, big man. Rest in peace.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:23 pm

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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:34 pm

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Wilt in 4th grade. :man4:
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:09 pm

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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby jlkr on Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:03 pm

He wasn't just a physical force of nature, he had mad skills to combine with his athleticism. Shooting range on the fallaway to 12 feet, could hit it out to 15. Notice how often he used the backboard. That finger roll was successful because he set it up with the fallaway. Look at his footwork, very good there. He was an excellent passer, still remains the only center ever to win an assists title. Not to mention he was a terror on defense. He was getting old by the time Kareem faced him and it was still a contest, as great as Kareem was. Too bad there is so little film of his early years when he routinely ran up and down the court as quickly as most guards did. He did, after all, win the conference quarter mile during his college days.

RIP, Wilt.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby 432J on Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:58 am

Rooscooter wrote:20,000+ women miss you.....

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i forgot about that
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby Sirron on Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:39 pm

best footage I've ever seen. Very skilled, and huge hands. Wow.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:23 am

Can't imagine seeing a big like that in todays game.. The dominance of Shaq with the playmaking ability & freakish athleticism of Lebron. Much better handles than most of the other great C's.. It's impossible to know for sure how any player would to do in another era, but Wilt would be my #1 choice if we could stick 1 player in a time machine & see how they do today.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby jlkr on Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:47 pm

Bill Russell was said to be one of the greatest defensive players ever ... but he couldn't hold Wilt below 40 most of the time during Wilt's early years. Believe Wilt set the single game rebound record against Russell too. Russell won the championships because he almost always had the better teammates than Wilt did. Wilt wouldn't get 50ppg over a season anymore, but that is mainly due to the slower pace of the game. He would still dominate the middle at both ends and run the floor in between as well as Lebron does. There is just nobody like that in today's game, period. Shaq comes closest for domination in the modern era but he didn't have Wilt's mobility. Of all the star players from the 60's, I think Wilt would come closest in replicating his dominance in the modern game.
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And that has made all the difference.

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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby gcclaker on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:50 pm

Chamberlain also never fouled out of a single game. I will never forget the story of how he told Jordan that to be considered truly dominant is having The League change the rules to stop you.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby LTLakerFan on Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:05 pm

Sirron wrote:best footage I've ever seen. Very skilled, and huge hands. Wow.


Meh :man1: .....not bad for having no left hand :man12:

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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby jlkr on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:31 pm

gcclaker wrote:Chamberlain also never fouled out of a single game. I will never forget the story of how he told Jordan that to be considered truly dominant is having The League change the rules to stop you.

I can think of a few rule changes that were aimed at him:

- the NCAA widened the lane from 6 to 12 feet in 1956. That was Russell's influence, but they saw Wilt coming.

- the NCAA banned offensive goaltending in 1957. Wilt again. Teams inbounding the ball under their own basket could throw the ball over the backboard and Wilt would outjump everyone to dunk it. That was a favorite play at Kansas, where Wilt went to college. Kansas had other plays designed to funnel the ball to be stuffed by Wilt at the rim.

- the NCAA banned grabbing the rim in 1957. Yep, that was Wilt too. He'd use the rim to help himself to easy baskets and blocks.

- the NBA widened the lane from 12 to 16 feet in 1964. Wilt's mobility had made a mockery of the 12 foot lane to that point. At both ends of the floor.

- I can't find a reference to this, but Wilt once took free throws by getting a running start from midcourt, taking off from behind the line and dunking the ball. Easy for an athlete like him and yes that was legal. Now have to stay behind the line until the ball hits the rim.

And along those lines, the NCAA banned the dunk due to Kareem's proficiency at getting to the rim. Recall they did it following his freshman year when he had to play with the freshman team.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby gcclaker on Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:18 pm

^I was aware only of the widening of the key but not the others. I wonder if the 3 second call was instituted because of him as well.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby jlkr on Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:53 pm

gcclaker wrote:^I was aware only of the widening of the key but not the others. I wonder if the 3 second call was instituted because of him as well.

The offensive 3 second rule predates George Mikan. The first version of the rule we know today was set in 1936 and revised in 1944, before Mikan entered college. But Mikan did influence the NBA to widen the lane from 6 to 12 feet in 1951. Later widened to 16 feet in 1964 due to Wilt as I cited above.

Another NBA rule change due to Mikan's dominance: there was an attempt in 1950 to deal with the intentional fouling and roughness in the last 3 minutes of a game by having a jump ball after the free throw between the player committing the foul and the player fouled rather than simply awarding possession to the fouled player's team. Well Mikan abused that rule by being the one fouling shorter players so as to gain the advantage for the jump ball. So in 1952, they changed the jump ball participants to the player fouled and the player guarding him. Remember zone defenses were already illegal at this time.

Of course they would change the rules later to eliminate the jump ball after free throws and have the team retain possession until the penalty phase when they go to bonus free throws like 1+1 and 3 to make 2 when in the penalty. Now that is just 2 free throws period. Will have to see if they tweak that again...

Useful lessons in seeing how big man domination can influence the rules. Getting away from Wilt here, but interesting to see how the defensive rule changes (3 rules actually: legalizing zone defenses, restricting use of the hands and arms on defense, defensive 3 seconds) for guarding perimeter players has had the side effect of changing the kind of big men who make it onto the floor. I think it's not a coincidence that we have fewer dominant big men than at any time in the league's history. And if those remaining are dominant, it's almost always at the defensive end of the floor.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby Lakeshow24 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:37 pm

Tell me more grandpa, more pops! ^jlkr :man10:
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Re: Happy Birthday, Wilt Chamberlain

Postby jlkr on Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:38 am

Lakeshow24 wrote:Tell me more grandpa, more pops! ^jlkr :man10:

Well you young whippersnapper, go grab us a couple of beers from the fridge and pull up a chair while I sit in my old rocking chair stroking my old white beard wondering where the rest of my hair went trying to remember whether my bowels moved this morning. So let me see now, how bout the story of the time I saw ......

And you'll be answering, but pops, you already told that one! :man10:
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