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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Weezy on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:01 pm

JGC wrote:Seems like people only come in here to cast a hero vote for Kobe and then cop out when he has a poor effort. Oh well, like you said, no bug deal. Not trying to be a pest.


Oh brother, so people only vote for Kobe as the hero, and they never vote for him as the zero, which is a cop out. I really wish we had an eye-rolling emoticon here. More often than not Kobe is the hero, but plenty of other players get votes, Dwight, Metta,Nash the occasional role player like Clark. But if Kobe has a bad game he must be the zero I guess, no matter who hurt us most. You are right though, had Dwight not got ejected yesterday Kobe was my next in line for zero. The criteria is someone who played and hurt us the most, and to me that was Dwight by getting tossed when we needed him badly. Kobe was next with his awful shooting and for playing just as bad on d as anyone else. People saying everyone was the zero, no hero, this is not the first time.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Lakeshow24 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:07 pm

But Dwight getting tossed was pathetic. What did he do to deserve the tossing?
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Weezy on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:46 pm

Lakeshow24 wrote:But Dwight getting tossed was pathetic. What did he do to deserve the tossing?


Doesn't matter to me what he did, when you have one tech you act like a saint to stay out there. Had Kobe been tossed for screaming at the refs I'd say the same thing. He DID shut up after his first tech though, he even calmly went over and talked to the ref immediately after getting it.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Lakeshow24 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:49 pm

Weezy wrote:
Lakeshow24 wrote:But Dwight getting tossed was pathetic. What did he do to deserve the tossing?


Doesn't matter to me what he did, when you have one tech you act like a saint to stay out there. Had Kobe been tossed for screaming at the refs I'd say the same thing. He DID shut up after his first tech though, he even calmly went over and talked to the ref immediately after getting it.


But Dwight was tossed for...? He wasn't even interacting with an official when he was tossed. Dwight was simply playing basketball and was tossed for... playing basketball? That was ridiculous.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Weezy on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:51 pm

Lakeshow24 wrote:
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Lakeshow24 wrote:But Dwight getting tossed was pathetic. What did he do to deserve the tossing?


Doesn't matter to me what he did, when you have one tech you act like a saint to stay out there. Had Kobe been tossed for screaming at the refs I'd say the same thing. He DID shut up after his first tech though, he even calmly went over and talked to the ref immediately after getting it.


But Dwight was tossed for...? He wasn't even interacting with an official when he was tossed. Dwight was simply playing basketball and was tossed for... playing basketball? That was ridiculous.


From what I saw he did what he always does to get techs, needlessly had a little "extracurricular activity" with an opposing player after the play was over, showing signs of frustration in dumb ways that get him fouls and techs.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:57 pm

Weezy wrote:
Lakeshow24 wrote:But Dwight getting tossed was pathetic. What did he do to deserve the tossing?


Doesn't matter to me what he did, when you have one tech you act like a saint to stay out there. Had Kobe been tossed for screaming at the refs I'd say the same thing. He DID shut up after his first tech though, he even calmly went over and talked to the ref immediately after getting it.


I understand where you are coming from Weez but I can't agree on this particular occassion. On the double T you can see Dwight was being held, then the Toronto dude turned around and went at Dwight but Dwight didn't even react. In my opinion Dwight was totally faultless in that second tech. On most occassion I say don't say nothing to get the refs attention again and had he done I'd be slamming him. However, Dwight did none of that in my opinion.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Lakeshow24 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:58 pm

Weezy wrote:
Lakeshow24 wrote:
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Lakeshow24 wrote:But Dwight getting tossed was pathetic. What did he do to deserve the tossing?


Doesn't matter to me what he did, when you have one tech you act like a saint to stay out there. Had Kobe been tossed for screaming at the refs I'd say the same thing. He DID shut up after his first tech though, he even calmly went over and talked to the ref immediately after getting it.


But Dwight was tossed for...? He wasn't even interacting with an official when he was tossed. Dwight was simply playing basketball and was tossed for... playing basketball? That was ridiculous.


From what I saw he did what he always does to get techs, needlessly had a little "extracurricular activity" with an opposing player after the play was over, showing signs of frustration in dumb ways that get him fouls and techs.


I guess the replay is interpreted differently. All I saw was a flop artist holding onto Dwight's arm and whining while doing it and the gullible ref sucked at his job and made a bad call. And you want to blame Dwight for a bad call even after the NBA rescinded the bad call they made.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Weezy on Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:06 pm

I've watched the replay quite a few times now, and you guys are right, it was a terrible call the ref was fooled and blew the whistle too quick, the refs really don't seem to like Dwight. He gets a lot of free throws yes, but he's also reffed a lot like Shaq, guy are allowed to hang on him and hammer him and it's ok because he's big. I guess I'm just trying really hard not to blame the refs for our troubles right now. The league has rescinded that 2nd tech though so clearly Dwight did nothing wrong, that's my mistake. I guess Kobe was my zero after all. :man10:
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:19 pm

Weezy wrote:. I guess Kobe was my zero after all. :man10:


You just made a few posters here happy with this one man. :bow: :man1:
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:59 pm

hero - nash
zero - dwight
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby borri on Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:07 pm

H : Nash
Z : Kobe
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby JGC on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:19 pm

H: Nash
Z: Kobe, but Dwight gets honorable mention.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Lakeshow24 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:32 pm

HERO: Clark
ZERO: Dwight
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby SublimeAnarky on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:41 pm

Lakeshow24 wrote:HERO: Clark
ZERO: Dwight

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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Lakeshow24 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:45 pm

Although in Dwight's defense, there's no way the refs let him play the same style of basketball as Noah. All Joakim Noah does is run around basketball courts pushing people around, grabbing arms, flopping to the floor and the refs give him the benefit of the doubt all game. The minute Dwight grabs anybody's arm or pushing anybody it's a guaranteed foul. It's also a technical and an ejection apparently too.

So even though Dwight got a ZERO from me tonight, it's understandable if he's frustrated playing in the paint against Noah and those Bulls. They were hacking him left and right all game.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby odom1year on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:04 am

Hero: Nash, Pau
Zero: Kobe, D12 (5 shots only ? best center in the league ?)
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Lakeshow24 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:08 am

odom1year wrote:Hero: Nash, Pau
Zero: Kobe, D12 (5 shots only ? best center in the league ?)


He had the ball a lot in the post. Those possessions resulted in either embarrassing bricks, turnovers, or complete hacks that sent him to the line for more embarrassing bricks. Dwight was awful offensively tonight as Noah was completely outplaying him in the paint.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby odom1year on Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:44 pm

Lakeshow24 wrote:
odom1year wrote:Hero: Nash, Pau
Zero: Kobe, D12 (5 shots only ? best center in the league ?)


He had the ball a lot in the post. Those possessions resulted in either embarrassing bricks, turnovers, or complete hacks that sent him to the line for more embarrassing bricks. Dwight was awful offensively tonight as Noah was completely outplaying him in the paint.


He's complaining not enough touch now.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby odom1year on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:24 pm

Hero: Kobe
Zero: MDA
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby escobar8 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:27 pm

Hero ron
Zero nash
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:29 pm

this doesn't even matter anymore. :man6:
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Re: Hero/Zero

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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:41 pm

hero - kobe
zero - duhon
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby abeer3 on Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:44 pm

hero: mwp (really frustrated millsap on defense, kept the jazz honest on offense)
honorable mention to pau for looking alive for a night.

zero: duhon.
honorable mention to nash. not a strong game from him, imo.

given the zeros, the lakers were lucky not to see mo williams i this one. the tinsley/watson pg duo is rough.
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Re: Hero/Zero

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:44 pm

H: Pau..... :man3: .... yes Pau!
Z: Morris
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