Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby Bilbao-LakerMagic on Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:56 pm

After watching NBA "Magic Johnson" career, and I recognize that more from a fan perspective point of view, as maybe I am not totally objective in my comments but... "Magic" reached 9 NBA Finals in his first 12 years in the NBA, and he won 5 Championships, and I think that he could even won more Championships if injuries wouldn´t have appeared.

I remember 1989 Finals, "Magic" and Byron got injured, we had a very good team: "Magic", Byron, Worthy, A.C., Kareem, Coop and the addition of a 30 years old Orlando Woolridge. We lost the Finals, but with "Magic" and Byron available... maybe the Final result would have been different. 1989 Roster:

Byron Scott Guard 6'4" 200 lbs. Mar. 28, 1961 Arizona State, 1983
David Rivers Guard 6'0" 175 lbs. Jan. 20, 1965 Notre Dame, 1988
Jeff Lamp Guard 6'6" 195 lbs. Mar. 9, 1959 Virginia, 1981
Magic Johnson Guard 6'9" 220 lbs. Aug. 14, 1959 Michigan State, 1979
Michael Cooper Guard/Forward 6'7" 170 lbs. Apr. 15, 1956 New Mexico, 1978
A.C. Green Forward 6'9" 230 lbs. Oct. 4, 1963 Oregon State, 1985
James Worthy Forward 6'9" 225 lbs. Feb. 27, 1961 North Carolina, 1982
Orlando Woolridge Forward 6'9" 215 lbs. Dec. 16, 1959 Notre Dame, 1981
Tony Campbell Forward 6'7" 215 lbs. May 7, 1962 Ohio St, 1984
Mychal Thompson Forward/Center 6'10" 235 lbs. Jan. 10, 1955 Minnesota, 1978
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Center 7'2" 267 lbs. Aug. 16, 1947 UCLA, 1969
Mark McNamara Center 6'11" 235 lbs. June 8, 1959 California, 1982

I remember the 1991 NBA Finals, Worthy had ankle problems in the Series against Portland, and after winning first match of the Series against Chicago, he couldn´t play any more in the Series. Worthy and Byron got injured. It´s a pity, because we had the Sam Perkins addition and Vlade Divac was playing very well the Series against Chicago. Without Worthy, all it was easier to Chicago, and Scottie could defend "Magic" (because of Worthy absence).

Byron Scott Guard 6'4" 200 lbs. Mar. 28, 1961 Arizona State, 1983
Larry Drew Guard 6'1" 175 lbs. Apr. 2, 1958 Missouri, 1980
Magic Johnson Guard 6'9" 220 lbs. Aug. 14, 1959 Michigan State, 1979
Terry Teagle Guard 6'5" 195 lbs. Apr. 10, 1960 Baylor, 1982
Tony Smith Guard 6'4" 205 lbs. June 14, 1968 Marquette, 1990
A.C. Green Forward 6'9" 230 lbs. Oct. 4, 1963 Oregon State, 1985
Irving Thomas Forward 6'9" 230 lbs. Jan. 2, 1966 Florida State
James Worthy Forward 6'9" 225 lbs. Feb. 27, 1961 North Carolina, 1982
Tony Brown Forward 6'6" 200 lbs. July 29, 1960 Arkansas, 1982
Elden Campbell Forward/Center 7'0" 279 lbs. July 23, 1968 Clemson, 1990
Mychal Thompson Forward/Center 6'10" 235 lbs. Jan. 10, 1955 Minnesota, 1978
Sam Perkins Forward/Center 6'9" 255 lbs. June 14, 1961 North Carolina, 1984
Vlade Divac Center 7'1" 260 lbs. Feb. 3, 1968 None

Talking about 1992 Season, in this case, it is not an injury, it was MUCH worse, because of the HIV we lost "Magic". We had the same team who reached the Finals plus the addition of Sedale Threatt, but... without "Magic" we couldn´t compete at the same level never more...

I know that who knows... and that I am talking from a Fan perspective, but after winning the NCAA Finals with Michigan (State!!) and being the MVP of the Finals in his rookie Season!! we are talking about an unique player, a player capable of reaching the NBA Finals nearly every Season. "Magic" is a great player who won 5 Championships but... maybe without injuries, he would have won 7-8 Championships (not easily, but yes possibly). This is not an excuse, beause I know that Boston had even worse problems (Len Bias, Reggie Lewis). But injuries were terrible in our NBA Finals History.

Even talking about 2008 Finals (in this case without "Magic"), not talking about "Magic" era, we had important health problems/injuries in Bynum and Ariza. So I hope in 2009... we will reach the NBA Finals again looking for a new opportunity. I think that we are a better team than last year.

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Re: Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby Sirron on Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:50 pm

Magic was a once in a lifetime talent. A true winner on the court and made countless fans fall in love with basketball. At the end of the day there are always coulda wouldas, but even with those, Magic is still in an elite circle of all time greats.
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Re: Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby Choson1 on Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:50 pm

why do you put magic in quotes?
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Re: Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby gcclaker on Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:57 pm

That 1989 Showtime team won three straight series without a loss on the way to The Finals. Scott went down on a rebounding drill during one of Riley's demanding practices. Johnson then pulled his hamstring during Game 2. Without both the Lakers did not stand a chance against a fully healthy Piston squad. Abdul-Jabbar commented that without Johnson it was like driving a car without an engine. I have no doubt the Lakers would have beaten the Pistons in the Finals that year.

That 1991 Laker team probably could have won the series against a younger, athletic Bulls team but they were older and played a slower tempo game. Dunleavy pulled the plug on the running game relying instead on the inside game of Perkins, Worthy and in some respect Divac as well.
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Re: Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby lakeshow2k4 on Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:23 pm

NO question 89 could've given the Pistons a run for their money. I think the Bulls of 91 still would've beat the Lakers only because of Dunleavy's coaching..

Don't forget '04.. Malone's knee, Fisher wasn't 100% going into the finals. And Phil even mentioned in his book not having Horace Grant for the playoffs hurt the team because we only had Slava and Brian Cook backing up Shaq and Malone..
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Re: Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby Kush327 on Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:43 am

Choson1 wrote:why do you put magic in quotes?

Probably because it's a nickname.
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Re: Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby therealdeal on Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:50 am

Kush327 wrote:
Choson1 wrote:why do you put magic in quotes?

Probably because it's a nickname.


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Re: Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby Bilbao-LakerMagic on Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:30 pm

You are right, I forgot 2004 Finals, Malone got injured, we had a great team.

I put in "" because is a nickname, like "the Dream", "Sleepy", "Air", etc. I usually do that, but for sure, for me MAGIC was the number 1, I think that I like/love basket and the L.A. Lakers because of him. After all, L.A. Lakers (in Basketball) and Athletic Club de Bilbao (in Soccer) are my two and unique teams, I don´t change every year depending on the moment, and a lot of people in Europe do that.

Many thanks "Magic" or Magic... Go Lakers !!
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Re: Historical Injuries - NBA Finals

Postby Gilbert(beto) on Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:26 pm

Funny thing is I was thinking about this same thing. First I was looking back at last year with Bynum. And then I rememberd that Malone's Knee injury cost us 2 world titles. :bang: :mad1: :bang: . Even with them its not a garentee , but still goes to show you that Injuries play a huge part of it. Lets Pray we stay healthy all year. GO LAKERS BABY!!!! :jam2: :boxing1:
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