HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Frank Dux on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:42 pm

1. LeBron James Latest Rumors Early Termination Option / Small Forward / 6-8 / Team: Miami 26.8 ppg, 8.0 rpg The four-time MVP and two-time NBA champion is already one of the top players of all time. His decision can potentially alter the landscape of the NBA. Would make a contender out of any NBA team.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
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2. Carmelo Anthony Latest Rumors Early Termination Option / Small Forward / 6-8 / Team: New York 28.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg With some years left in his prime, Melo will draw massive attention should he decide to leave New York – which is probably an unlikely scenario.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
Leon Rose $21,490,000 $113,457,801

3. Kobe Bryant Latest Rumors Unrestricted / Shooting Guard / 6-6 / Team: LA Lakers 27.3 ppg, 6.0 apg Will have to take the first pay cut of his NBA career next summer. Hard to envision Bryant wearing any other jersey, but you never know.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
Rob Pelinka $30,453,000 $249,284,257

4. Greg Monroe Latest Rumors Restricted / Center / 6-11 / Team: Detroit 16.0 ppg, 9.6 rpg Has quietly become one of the top centers in the NBA – although losing a lot of games in the process. Big surprise if he doesn't get the max.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
David Falk $4,086,453 $9,023,640

5. Dwyane Wade Latest Rumors Early Termination Option / Shooting Guard / 6-4 / Team: Miami 21.2 ppg, 5.1 apg Could become a free agent technically, but we pretty much know he's off limits for any team outside Miami. Star player if health permits.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
Henry Thomas $18,536,000 $102,648,666

6. Chris Bosh Latest Rumors Early Termination Option / Power Forward / 6-11 / Team: Miami 16.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg Has been a perfect No. 3 guy for the Heat so far. If the three-peat happens and LeBron decides to re-sign, he's not going anywhere.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
Henry Thomas $19,067,500 $104,337,253

7. Luol Deng Latest Rumors Unrestricted / Small Forward / 6-8 / Team: Chicago 16.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg Wanted an extension, but Bulls were not interested. Could be on his way out if Nikola Mirotic decides to relocate to Chicago.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
Herb Rudoy $14,312,125 $67,282,524

8. Dirk Nowitzki Latest Rumors Unrestricted / Power Forward / 7-0 / Team: Dallas 17.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg Missed the All-Star Game for the first time in 10 years last season, which may be a sign of things to come.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
$22,721,381 $181,342,604

9. Tim Duncan Latest Rumors Player Option / Power Forward / 6-11 / Team: San Antonio 17.8 ppg, 9.9 rpg Wheels have to fall off at some point, but he just keeps getting it done. Will retire a Spur.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
Jim Tanner $10,361,446 $214,347,709

10. Eric Bledsoe Latest Rumors Restricted / Point Guard / 6-1 / Team: Phoenix 8.5 ppg, 3.1 apg Gets green light for the first time in his career during a contract year. Good timing for a potential star.
Agent: 2013/14 Earnings: Career Earnings:
Rich Paul $2,626,473 $4,789,080


http://hoopshype.com/free_agency_2014.htm

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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:49 pm

Melo, Bledsoe, Deng, James, Bryant: 2 of these

Hawes, Gortat, Lowry, Gay: 1 of these

Farmar, Wes Johnson, Kaman, Hill, Henry, Young: Re-sign as many of these as we can on min deals in order to preserve cap space for Love or Rondo in 2015.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby themasterphil on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:52 pm

Lets say Kobe accept 15mil can we sing Monroe for 12-15, Deng 9 and Bledsoe for 7-9 mil...its 44 mil for these 4 players....is this possible from financial side of story
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Frank Dux on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:55 pm

therealdeal wrote:Melo, Bledsoe, Deng, James, Bryant: 2 of these

Hawes, Gortat, Lowry, Gay: 1 of these

Farmar, Wes Johnson, Kaman, Hill, Henry, Young: Re-sign as many of these as we can on min deals in order to preserve cap space for Love or Rondo in 2015.


Lovin' Bledsoe at the moment. Such a stud.

I like how you thought ahead to 2015 as well. I really hope management doesn't blow all of our cap just for the sake of spending in 2014. The contracts and players have to be right.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby abeer3 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:57 pm

bryant, lowry, gortat, use remaining cash to absorb an overpaid but talented player to round out the squad, employ mins effectively like they did this year.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Frank Dux on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:00 pm

themasterphil wrote:Lets say Kobe accept 15mil can we sing Monroe for 12-15, Deng 9 and Bledsoe for 7-9 mil...its 44 mil for these 4 players....is this possible from financial side of story



Monroe is a talented 7 footer. He's probably going to get the max. I don't like the idea of a 36 year old Kobe making 15 million. Deng is solid and will likely get 8-10 million a year over 3/4. Bledsoe is playing out of his mind is is going to get 12+

With that said. I like the players you listed, but I don't see how those guys make us contenders. Especially considering Bryant's injury. We desperately need a Durant/Lebron talent, or a deep 1-5 team like Indiana lead by a DPOY tier center, and a borderline superstar in George.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Frank Dux on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:07 pm

abeer3 wrote:bryant, lowry, gortat, use remaining cash to absorb an overpaid but talented player to round out the squad, employ mins effectively like they did this year.


Gortat is nice if we play on signing Love. Lowry is solid(but still a bottom tier starting PG). Without an elite player at a forward spot that might be a 40ish win team.

Also, sorry if this is a dumb question, but do we have a 1st rounder in 2014?
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:13 pm

Frank Dux wrote:
abeer3 wrote:bryant, lowry, gortat, use remaining cash to absorb an overpaid but talented player to round out the squad, employ mins effectively like they did this year.


Gortat is nice if we play on signing Love. Lowry is solid(but still a bottom tier starting PG). Without an elite player at a forward spot that might be a 40ish win team.

Also, sorry if this is a dumb question, but do we have a 1st rounder in 2014?

Yes we do have that pick.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:17 pm

Frank Dux wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Melo, Bledsoe, Deng, James, Bryant: 2 of these

Hawes, Gortat, Lowry, Gay: 1 of these

Farmar, Wes Johnson, Kaman, Hill, Henry, Young: Re-sign as many of these as we can on min deals in order to preserve cap space for Love or Rondo in 2015.


Lovin' Bledsoe at the moment. Such a stud.

I like how you thought ahead to 2015 as well. I really hope management doesn't blow all of our cap just for the sake of spending in 2014. The contracts and players have to be right.

I have complete faith in Mitch for this summer. This is what we've been building towards for the last few years, he's not going to screw it up. We'll get what we can with homeruns and the rest will be fill-ins for us to keep room next summer.

I wouldn't be surprised if it worked out to: Melo for 21, Bryant front loaded for 20, and Gortat/Hawes for 5-7 or so. That works out to about 48 million and then the rest would be shorter term contracts unless we could find a bargain. Probably the same thing we're doing now in fact where we sign a guy to a nice chunk, but only for a year (mini-MLE, MLE, etc.) Then the next season we'd see Melo's 21, Kobe's 8 or so, and Gortat's 7 or so for about 37 which leaves 21 million available and that could be enough to sign one more big name and one solid guy (Love and ???).

Any way the Lakers can do it so that there's about 15-16 million available to sign Love or Rondo the next season.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Frank Dux on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:24 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Frank Dux wrote:Also, sorry if this is a dumb question, but do we have a 1st rounder in 2014?

Yes we do have that pick.


That's promising. The way Pau's playing, and with Nash looking like his time is done, We could end up with a nice young player next season along with the crop of FA's. I'm not an advocate of tanking, but let's be real, Wiggins or Parker would be huge for us.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby themasterphil on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:25 pm

Frank Dux wrote:
themasterphil wrote:Lets say Kobe accept 15mil can we sing Monroe for 12-15, Deng 9 and Bledsoe for 7-9 mil...its 44 mil for these 4 players....is this possible from financial side of story



Monroe is a talented 7 footer. He's probably going to get the max. I don't like the idea of a 36 year old Kobe making 15 million. Deng is solid and will likely get 8-10 million a year over 3/4. Bledsoe is playing out of his mind is is going to get 12+

With that said. I like the players you listed, but I don't see how those guys make us contenders. Especially considering Bryant's injury. We desperately need a Durant/Lebron talent, or a deep 1-5 team like Indiana lead by a DPOY tier center, and a borderline superstar in George.

i agree about Monroe , it will be 15 mil , Kobe hmm maybe he can accept 10 mil but i am not sure and lets say Dend is 9 and Bledsoe 12....if its possible by financial side to put Farmar, Bayless, Young, Johnson, Hill, Hawes and our 1st rounder.....in that case you have that deep team IMO....lets say a top10 pick....its a really good team...Ok i know we dont have Durant or Lebron type player but this team can be great in defense and have a lots of offensive potential. I dont know its only my opinion but i like this team
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:27 pm

I hope we go with the 1st ever no PG on the roster look. That way, MDA will have no choice, but to play actual shooting guards at the SG spot and actual SF's at the SF spot.

He will probably quit due to severe confusion and we will get another coach who wouldn't do such silly things.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Frank Dux on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:34 pm

A couple of ex Lakers who are towards the bottom of the list include: Trevor Ariza, and Ramon Sessions. Both of those guys can still play, and I would love to have them back as reserves. I think they would be excellent role players for us. Watching Nick Young out there every night makes me miss a guy like Ariza. Brandon Rush would also be a great pickup as well(assuming he returns to his GSW form), he's a solid defender and a knockdown 3 guy. Perfect fit.

If we were looking something like:

Sessions/Farmar
Bryant/Rush/Meeks
Melo/Ariza/Johnson
Love/Hill/2014 draft pick?
Gortat/Kaman/

I'd be pretty happy.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby themasterphil on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:45 pm

Frank Dux wrote:A couple of ex Lakers who are towards the bottom of the list include: Trevor Ariza, and Ramon Sessions. Both of those guys can still play, and I would love to have them back as reserves. I think they would be excellent role players for us. Watching Nick Young out there every night makes me miss a guy like Ariza. Brandon Rush would also be a great pickup as well(assuming he returns to his GSW form), he's a solid defender and a knockdown 3 guy. Perfect fit.

If we were looking something like:

Sessions/Farmar
Bryant/Rush/Meeks
Melo/Ariza/Johnson
Love/Hill/2014 draft pick?
Gortat/Kaman/

I'd be pretty happy.

hm really nice team i must say...big like for Rush, i would be pleased to see him as Kobe back up, Love/Hill we can have 25 boards only from these 2 guys but only i dont like Gortat at all, he is just not the type of a player i would like to see in laker team...

beside this one Q is important in 2015....i like Rondo a lot, i think he is maybe the only true PG in this league right now but also he is injury prone, we need to think about that also.....
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:46 pm

Frank Dux wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Frank Dux wrote:Also, sorry if this is a dumb question, but do we have a 1st rounder in 2014?

Yes we do have that pick.


That's promising. The way Pau's playing, and with Nash looking like his time is done, We could end up with a nice young player next season along with the crop of FA's. I'm not an advocate of tanking, but let's be real, Wiggins or Parker would be huge for us.


Don't forget Julius Randle from Kentucky; he's a beast...can play the 3/4, strong, quick, great first step, decent post-game for his age; too strong for SF's, too quick for PF's...there are a ton of prospects in this draft.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:58 pm

The Lakers won't tank to get one of the higher level picks. They'll probably make the playoffs or close to it and end up with a pick somewhere in the late teens/20s area.

The cool thing is that this draft is supposed to be about that deep so we should end up with a solid player no matter what.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby karacha on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:06 pm

We sign Melo and Bledsoe or Melo and Deng... maybe Gortat. Does that sound realistic?
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:07 pm

Monroe, Bledsoe, Bryant.

Don't want anyone that isn't young unless they wore #8 & #24.

Hell no: Duncan, Dirk, Melo, Wade.

We can do better than: Deng, Gay (for the money). I'd take Deng on a cheaper deal.

LeBron and Bosh are resigning with the Heat.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby abeer3 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:30 pm

Frank Dux wrote:
abeer3 wrote:bryant, lowry, gortat, use remaining cash to absorb an overpaid but talented player to round out the squad, employ mins effectively like they did this year.


Gortat is nice if we play on signing Love. Lowry is solid(but still a bottom tier starting PG). Without an elite player at a forward spot that might be a 40ish win team.

Also, sorry if this is a dumb question, but do we have a 1st rounder in 2014?


I should have been clearer: I'm trying to be realistic. i'd be shocked if Bledsoe or Monroe left their teams; I think the big three will stay put in Miami, and i'd be fairly surprised if the lakers offered melo the max or the knicks wouldn't max him out.

I think my plan leaves room to nab an impact player in 2015 either via trade or FA.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:48 pm

Bledsoe is a RFA, he isn't going anywhere.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby abeer3 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:13 pm

is he or was he? regardless, I agree; he's not leaving phx unless they lowball him, which they won't.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Center Court on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:20 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Bledsoe is a RFA, he isn't going anywhere.



prob not, but I'm sure they bave a ceiling they'll offer up to. If it's the max, then we lose no matter what. But if they say $10M and we come in at $12 and don't match...

I agree, they are prob in a position to have to max him help fill seats but you never know.

As for the other free agents, I really don't want any outside Melo, Bron, and Bledsoe. The perfect play IMO would be to sign both Bled and Melo. EB at his max and Melo around $16. Then resign Kobe to a 1 year deal around $25. When Kobe expires next year we get him on board for a mMLE type level which allows us to sign Love to the max next year. From Kobe's perspective, instead of 2 years $30 Mil, he gets 1 year at $25 and 1 year at $5. Same thing except he's got a great shot at a ring. Oh and this off season we draft a defensive center or a young SG who can fill in for Kobe one day.

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Love
Melo
Kobe
Bledsoe or Rondo

If Bledsoe is resigned by Phx then we go for Rondo. If Melo opts to stay in NY, then we save that money for Marc Gasol. M.Gasol/Love/Kobe/Rondo

When I say perfect play, I mean anything outside Bron. The perfect summer is Bron and Melo. Some people, Frank Isola, keep on saying he thinks it's an option. Bron and Bledsoe would be insane to as it would allow us to still sign Love. Love/Bron/Bledsoe. Drool.

Either way, I don't see Bron leaving and I think Melo is more likely to stay in NY. If that is the case and we get outbid on Bledsoe, then so be. Sign guys to one year deals who can keep us competitive and then go all in for the Gasol/Love/Rondo plan as stated above.

I just want Love as a Laker and IMO that is very likely.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby noobiew on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:23 pm

Out of all the 2014 FA pool, only LBJ is worth the max,

I hope Lakers not wasting and handing out max contract to any other 2014 FA, the 2014 plan is doomed anyway. :man5:
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby Ras Algethi on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:30 pm

Still dont want Melo unless he comes for relatively cheap. He's a one dimensional player with over-rated impact.
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Re: HoopsHype top 100 FA 2014

Postby noobiew on Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:36 pm

^ yeah forget about 2014, Love in 2015 and Durant in 2016 would be great for us. :man1:
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