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Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby West's Formula 44 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:56 pm

Please indulge my senior moment and allow me to reminisce for just a minute of your time.

I'm sure I'm older than most (if not all) of the posters here. I remember listening to the Lakers on radio. "And Happy blows the layup!" The immortal words of Chick Hearn still ring in my ears. Elgin Baylor and Jerry West took us so close to the Promised Land year after year, only to be met with defeat at the hands of those hated Bill Russell led Celtics. Oh, how I wished for a center worthy of a championship contender. How close we came even with the likes of Jim Krebs, Gene Wiley, Darrall Imhoff, Leroy Ellis and Mel Counts. Mel Counts? Really?

We didn't need a Wilt Chamberlain to beat the Celtics. We finally did win our first championship here in LA with Wilt in the middle. But you know who I thought could have changed our one-sided rivalry with the Celtics around? Nate Thurmond. For those of you too young to remember, Nate was a notch below both Russell and Chamberlain. But he was a rebound eating monster. A presence in the middle that even Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had to admit was his toughest defensive foe. He could drop 20 on you with regularity too.

As awesome as that championship we won in Boston on Magic's baby skyhook was, it couldn't completely wash away the memories of getting punked by the Celtics back in the 1960's. Jerry West should have won more championships as a player. Elgin Baylor didn't even get the one West had. He retired during that historic 1971-72 season. He was Dr. J before there was a Dr. J.

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Postby TIME on Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:26 pm

One of the great NBA sad stories was Elgin never winning a ring.
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Postby LakersN4 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:40 pm

Nate Thurmond aka Lebron's father.

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Postby Rooscooter on Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:00 pm

I don't know about oldest..... I got a half century and then some behind me.....and I'm younger than Time.... Who will be adding "Father" to his handle soon.... :man10:
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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:48 pm

TIME wrote:One of the great NBA sad stories was Elgin never winning a ring.


And then equally tragic….. spending his front office career working for Sterling and the Clippers. :man5:
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Postby West's Formula 44 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:57 am

That's an older picture of Nate with the Cavaliers. It didn't matter though. He always had a fivehead :)

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Postby showtime mamba on Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:11 pm

As a Lakers :jam2: fan who wasn't there for the West, Chamberlain, Robertson times etc, I just wanted to say it is fascinating to hear about these players as well as other N.B.A greats from the perspectives of those who saw some of the games. Youtube clips never do justice to living in an era regardless of how young you were. :jam2:
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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:57 pm

I've chimed in on Nate the Great before. An often overlooked all time great. His career was in the lost 60's and 70's. He was a force inside on both ends and one of the better post facilitators. He understood the fundamentals of the game at a very high level. My father who watched him over his entire career said he was a better player than Russell but played on sub-par teams.
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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby TIME on Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:27 pm

Rooscooter wrote:I've chimed in on Nate the Great before. An often overlooked all time great. His career was in the lost 60's and 70's. He was a force inside on both ends and one of the better post facilitators. He understood the fundamentals of the game at a very high level. My father who watched him over his entire career said he was a better player than Russell but played on sub-par teams.


Yeah, I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying he was better than Russell, but I'm 100% on board with saying that Nate is the most overlooked big in discussions of all time great fives.

Here's an interesting thing most don't remember. Wilt and Nate were on the same team one season early in their careers.
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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:25 pm

TIME wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:I've chimed in on Nate the Great before. An often overlooked all time great. His career was in the lost 60's and 70's. He was a force inside on both ends and one of the better post facilitators. He understood the fundamentals of the game at a very high level. My father who watched him over his entire career said he was a better player than Russell but played on sub-par teams.


Yeah, I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying he was better than Russell, but I'm 100% on board with saying that Nate is the most overlooked big in discussions of all time great fives.

Here's an interesting thing most don't remember. Wilt and Nate were on the same team one season early in their careers.


That was dad's opinion...... Keep in mind that he suffered through the 60's as a die hard Laker fan... :man12:

I saw him play toward the end of his career and he was still fantastic. I never saw Russell play live and don't really remember seeing him on TV.
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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby West's Formula 44 on Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:00 pm

Rooscooter wrote:That was dad's opinion...... Keep in mind that he suffered through the 60's as a die hard Laker fan... :man12:

I saw him play toward the end of his career and he was still fantastic. I never saw Russell play live and don't really remember seeing him on TV.


Since you posted in a thread I started, I read your reply. Thurmond was still a defensive monster to the end of his playing days in the NBA. Now add in what an offensive force he was in his prime, and you can tack on another two or three championships to the Lakers' banner parade. It sure would have been sweet for West and Baylor. Not to mention Nate himself.
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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:14 pm

West's Formula 44 wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:That was dad's opinion...... Keep in mind that he suffered through the 60's as a die hard Laker fan... :man12:

I saw him play toward the end of his career and he was still fantastic. I never saw Russell play live and don't really remember seeing him on TV.


Since you posted in a thread I started, I read your reply. Thurmond was still a defensive monster to the end of his playing days in the NBA. Now add in what an offensive force he was in his prime, and you can tack on another two or three championships to the Lakers' banner parade. It sure would have been sweet for West and Baylor. Not to mention Nate himself.


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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:52 am

:man10: :man10: I saw that too and just assumed he didn't mean it like it reads. Or maybe he did, have you been sending nasty PMs?
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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby West's Formula 44 on Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:23 pm

LTLakerFan wrote::man10: :man10: I saw that too and just assumed he didn't mean it like it reads. Or maybe he did, have you been sending nasty PMs?


Nope. He's on ignore. He knows that. But since I started this thread I was interested in his take. That's all. Let's not let that small remark sidetrack the thread.
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Re: Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside Missed the Postman

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:29 pm

:man10: Ignore....

Um... why would I know that? :man10:

did you send me "notice"?.... when did I get the 3rd strike?.....
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Postby Rooscooter on Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:35 pm

LTLakerFan wrote::man10: :man10: I saw that too and just assumed he didn't mean it like it reads. Or maybe he did, have you been sending nasty PMs?


.... naw... I do my best work in public. :man1:

Haven't a clue what he's talking about actually. Maybe it was the thread in OC where he/she was posting a bunch of incorrect stuff about Lever Guns.... and I corrected it. Who knows?
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