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Postby Chillbongo on Tue May 14, 2013 5:41 pm

Ok, was wondering how that flew under the radar here.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby The Rock on Tue May 14, 2013 5:52 pm

Chillbongo wrote:Ok, was wondering how that flew under the radar here.



Found it...it was Mason who said it and neither Willard or Mychal Thompson refuted it & both believe the Cap will be $70 mil and $85 the tax line. Hmm

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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby Rooscooter on Tue May 14, 2013 6:24 pm

^^That's a 20% increase..... it's been about 58 Million for 5 years straight now. Why would revenues jump 20% next year because revenues are what it's based on.

That would be, by a long way, the largest jump in the Cap since it was instituted I believe.....
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby abeer3 on Tue May 14, 2013 6:40 pm

if the cap is really 70 million, i'm suddenly A LOT more concerned about Dwight bolting in FA. teams like Houston and dallas can now offer a lot more in terms of creating instant contenders.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby Rooscooter on Tue May 14, 2013 6:44 pm

abeer3 wrote:if the cap is really 70 million, i'm suddenly A LOT more concerned about Dwight bolting in FA. teams like Houston and dallas can now offer a lot more in terms of creating instant contenders.


Houston? Really? We need to discuss this...... :man10:
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby The Rock on Tue May 14, 2013 6:46 pm

I asked Steve Kyler from Hoopsworld and he said $60 mil for cap, $72 for tax...wtf

https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/334466634972545024

what will be the cap and tax lines for 2013/2014? ---> teams told 60mil cap 72 mil tax... gets set in July.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby The Rock on Tue May 14, 2013 6:54 pm

http://heathoops.com/2012/11/david-stern-projects-revenues-to-be-up-20-to-5-billion/

Speaking on Tuesday at a Beyond Sports United event at Yankee Stadium, Commissioner David Stern estimated that league-wide revenue for the season would increase by about 20% from the last full season in 2010-11, to an all-time record $5 billion.

A year after the long and contentious collective bargaining agreement negotiations of 2011, during which the league claimed losses in the hundreds of millions of dollars and threatened “nuclear winter” if serious concessions weren’t made by its players, the NBA is apparently thriving.

Five billion dollars is a lot of money.

In fact, it’s significantly more money than the league was forecasting just a few months ago.

Since national TV revenue was already set, the league already knew about things like the Lakers’ and Celtics’ new multi-billion dollar local TV deals, and most other major revenue streams (such as ticket sales) have limited growth potential, it’s not entirely clear where all this unexpected growth is coming from. But it’s great news if you’re a Miami Heat fan.

The more revenue the league makes, the higher the salary cap and luxury tax threshold.

The cap and tax are calculated based on projected amounts of revenue (called “BRI”) and benefits for the upcoming season. The calculations take 44.74% and 53.51%, respectively, of this projected BRI, subtract projected benefits, and divide by the number of teams in the league. Adjustments are then made if, in the previous season, the players made less or substantially more in salaries and benefits than the split which was agreed to in the CBA.

The NBA was anticipating a projected BRI for the 2013-14 season of $4.48 billion as recently as July. That, in turn, produced an estimated salary cap of $60 million and an estimated luxury tax threshold of $73 million.



Things appear to have changed quite dramatically.

While it is not entirely clear to what extent Stern was rounding when he threw out the $5 billion number (or if he was even referring to BRI specifically), his reference to a 20% increase from 2010-11 levels still suggests a rather staggering $4.58 billion in BRI for the current season.

And if this season’s revenues are $4.58 billion, then next year’s revenue forecast would presumably be higher than that. At a modest 4% growth rate, the league’s initial growth rate target for next season, projected BRI for 2013-14 would then be set at roughly $4.76 billion. Two weeks into game action, revenue forecasts for next season appear to have increased by over $280 million!

If these BRI projections prove correct, the 2013-14 salary cap would jump to $64 million and the luxury tax threshold to $78 million.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby Rooscooter on Tue May 14, 2013 6:57 pm

Growing revenues by 20% without smoke and mirrors in the entertainment industry is a pretty hard thing to do these days.
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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Tue May 14, 2013 7:39 pm

Where is the money coming from??

Lucky Miami gets to keep the team together.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby Rooscooter on Tue May 14, 2013 7:45 pm

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:Where is the money coming from??

Lucky Miami gets to keep the team together.


Check your cable bill.....
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby abeer3 on Tue May 14, 2013 7:46 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
abeer3 wrote:if the cap is really 70 million, i'm suddenly A LOT more concerned about Dwight bolting in FA. teams like Houston and dallas can now offer a lot more in terms of creating instant contenders.


Houston? Really? We need to discuss this...... :man10:


lol.

but it would negate a lot of my points against them. that would be an extra 10 million they'd have to spend (or the option to retain a guy like delfino on the cheap). it would also make the possibility of a paul/howard joint deal more possible there (and in dallas), which is my primary fear.

I hope the 60/72 figures are true, as that keeps things basically as they are.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby Doc Brown on Tue May 14, 2013 9:23 pm

Pierce's days in Boston over?
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According to MassLive.com, CSNNE sideline reporter Greg Dickerson says people close to Paul Pierce believe the longtime Celtic won't return next season.

"I don't think they will (bring Pierce back)," said Dickerson. "And I know that the company that Paul Pierce hangs around in, they do not believe – and I don't think Paul Pierce believes – that he is going to be brought back next year at $15 million. I know for a fact that people around Paul Pierce have pretty much resigned themselves to the fact that he's played his final game in a Boston Celtics uniform. Again, Paul wants to stay – obviously for $15 million, but he wants to finish his career in a Celtics uniform."

Only $5 million of the $15.33 million salary next season is guaranteed and many NBA pundits feel president of basketball operations Danny Ainge will shop him again up to June 30. Pierce's salary protection for 2013-14 becomes full if he's on the roster as of July 1. The two sides are allowed under league rules to push back that date and it might happen.

There is plenty of uncertainty regarding Kevin Garnett's future with the Celtics are lots of speculation has him accepting a trade or retiring if Pierce is not with the team next season.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby Rooscooter on Tue May 14, 2013 9:38 pm

abeer3 wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
abeer3 wrote:if the cap is really 70 million, i'm suddenly A LOT more concerned about Dwight bolting in FA. teams like Houston and dallas can now offer a lot more in terms of creating instant contenders.


Houston? Really? We need to discuss this...... :man10:


lol.

but it would negate a lot of my points against them. that would be an extra 10 million they'd have to spend (or the option to retain a guy like delfino on the cheap). it would also make the possibility of a paul/howard joint deal more possible there (and in dallas), which is my primary fear.

I hope the 60/72 figures are true, as that keeps things basically as they are.


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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby Armani on Tue May 14, 2013 9:40 pm

He's 37, and done. Seriously, we just got Nash this past offseason, and saw what happened to him. These are guys are literally this close to being role-player types that can't play an 82 game season. We can't rely on KG at this age to get anywhere.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Tue May 14, 2013 9:51 pm

abeer3 wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
abeer3 wrote:if the cap is really 70 million, i'm suddenly A LOT more concerned about Dwight bolting in FA. teams like Houston and dallas can now offer a lot more in terms of creating instant contenders.


Houston? Really? We need to discuss this...... :man10:


lol.

but it would negate a lot of my points against them. that would be an extra 10 million they'd have to spend (or the option to retain a guy like delfino on the cheap). it would also make the possibility of a paul/howard joint deal more possible there (and in dallas), which is my primary fear.

I hope the 60/72 figures are true, as that keeps things basically as they are.

No way the CAP jumps all the way to 70. That'd also negate the idea of "spreading the talent" which was one of the primary concerns of the last CBA. If the CAP is going to be 70 million...

we DEFINITELY retain Howard.

Think about it. What other city would utilize 70 MILLION in free agent cash as effectively? Even IF Nash stayed on that last year, we'd have 40 million dollars before the cap for goodness sake. We'd be able to sign a star, a psuedo-star, and a couple really good role players before even hitting the cap.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby Showtime.Revival.05 on Tue May 14, 2013 10:11 pm

personally, i really dislike kg. but i would welcome him on the team with open arms. aside from kobe i cant think of any current player that works harder and has more will to win.

paul pierce can just f*** right off though
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby khmrP on Tue May 14, 2013 10:54 pm

abeer3 wrote:if the cap is really 70 million, i'm suddenly A LOT more concerned about Dwight bolting in FA. teams like Houston and dallas can now offer a lot more in terms of creating instant contenders.


just because the cap and or luxury tax line goes up doesn't mean Hou has more money to offer Howard, he is bound to a certain MAX with us or with Hou.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby thkthebest on Tue May 14, 2013 10:59 pm

I'm sure he meant that they could entice Dwight by creating a contender as opposed to somehow increasing the max.

Houston could get Josh Smith (bf?) to entice Dwight. Or, they could try getting both CP3 and Dwight.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby wcsoldier81 on Tue May 14, 2013 11:31 pm

Another player of the " this team would have been unstoppable in 2008" plan ... no comment :disagree:

Plus KG would struggle in the West which is full of good PFs
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby The Laker Link on Wed May 15, 2013 12:09 am

It would be sad to see Gasol go to the Celtics but if he went, I would want to send him with Blake and other stuff (a future pick or cash or something) for Garnett, Terry, and Bass. It might be nice to have Bradley, but I think Bradley would be harder to get now than Bass and Terry. Plus I get this feeling that they would want to keep Bradley to back-up Rondo in case something happens like this season again.

They won't want Artest and I would be surprised if the Lakers gave up Hill at this rate. Him and Clark deserve to play together. In fact if you could get Terry and Bass, that might be a nice off the bench squad of PG, Terry, Clark, Bass, and Hill. Good shooters and rebounders. Just need a nice PG to back-up Nash (Bledsoe or someone like that) and call it good.

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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby kenzo on Wed May 15, 2013 12:25 am

Weezy wrote:Do not want. We don't need to get even older and more broken down. And it doesn't help my opinion that he's one of my most disliked players in the NBA, if Pierce came with him it would be my 2 most disliked players in one deal. No more former stars at the end of their career bs, let him join the Clippers.

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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby snackdaddy on Wed May 15, 2013 4:21 pm

Is Rasheed Wallace available? Or maybe Allen Iverson? I don't think Antonio McDyess is 40 yet.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby GoldenChocobo on Wed May 15, 2013 5:26 pm

If KG (or any "veteran") joins the Lakers, he would be dealing with nagging injuries all season long.
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Re: KG interested in the Lakers?

Postby The Laker Link on Wed May 15, 2013 9:09 pm

snackdaddy wrote:Is Rasheed Wallace available? Or maybe Allen Iverson? I don't think Antonio McDyess is 40 yet.


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