Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

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Postby Lakerjones on Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:16 am

Lakerman JSJ wrote:^Thats a fair & well-reasoned post. Thanks for the post. I'm not a blind optimist, but I also am not ready to call D'Antoni a failure this soon. Jury is still very much out (though I have concerns).


Thanks Lakerman JSJ. As much as I've disliked D' Antoni I also have wanted to at least give him a fair shake, and I wouldn't call it a failure yet either. However, like you I've got big concerns. And I have to say this loss to Denver really kind of threw me for a loop. The Philadelphia loss was pretty unforgivable, but they were shooting lights out in a way that was difficult to stop. Tonight though - wow. No defense whatsoever. We just could not get stops and were playing behind once again.

Something needs to change soon in order to make the playoffs.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby jimbo327 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:21 am

I'm just waiting for Jim Buss to trade Kobe.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby odom1year on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:25 am

jimbo327 wrote:I'm just waiting for Jim Buss to trade Kobe.


Hiring a defensive minded coach should be fine.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby khmrP on Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:27 am

Weezy wrote:
khmrP wrote:How come this guy no where to be seen/heard from when things go awry?


To be fair he's an owner,they're supposed to be behind the scenes. I prefer that style to the Mark Cuban/Jerry Jones style where you wish they'd shut up and go away.


well I'm not asking for him to be a Cuban/Jones type owner either and he's not a true 100% owner just yet, he's a VP so he still obligated to be heard from.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby lotus on Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:39 am

khmrP wrote:
Weezy wrote:
khmrP wrote:How come this guy no where to be seen/heard from when things go awry?


To be fair he's an owner,they're supposed to be behind the scenes. I prefer that style to the Mark Cuban/Jerry Jones style where you wish they'd shut up and go away.


well I'm not asking for him to be a Cuban/Jones type owner either and he's not a true 100% owner just yet, he's a VP so he still obligated to be heard from.

He even said in a tv interview last year that he was going to be more visible. He's not. He is not qualified for a leadership role and displays no leadership. He's probably in a bar somewhere sitting in the corner with his cap pulled down somewhere waiting for the frustration and angst to go down.
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Postby TalkieWalkie on Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:55 pm

Hindsight is 20 20...

But I don't think ANYONE here felt 100% good about D'Antoni hire...

To be fair to Mike, he's made it known that he is one style type of guy. He's all run and gun, no defense and no adjustment. He's a coach that you put on a team where all of your guys are run and shoot guys...young and athletic...like Denver

Our players don't work in that type of a system. Our backcourt is slow so playing a transition game leaves us veunerable on defense getting back. Our shooters can't shoot or create.

There's no real structure out there and that might work fine if you have the guys but we don't have them and that's where the error occurred

And like I said, I don't think ANYONE on CL felt even 80% confident... We were all just in a euphoric mood since Potato got fired.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby lakersyunowin on Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:46 pm

F*** YOU JIM BUSS. slimy motherf***er
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby Weezy on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:16 am

I'm not trying to blame Jim for Kobe getting injured, but he deserves some blame. His ego got in the way of bringing back Phil, who gets the most out of his role players and will ride lineups to rest guys even to a fault. Would we be great with Phil? No, I don't think so, but we'd be better managed as a team, better coached overall, and Kobe wouldn't play 48 mins a game.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby JSM on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:19 am

Two wrongs (MB & MDA) don't make a right. But can one right fix two wrongs?

If he wasn't so damn pig headed, he'd start crawling over to Phil's house now. Kiss his rings, his feet, wax his car, clean the gutters. Hold a press conference in front of Staples with Phil, allowing Phil to humiliate him in public for what he put him through and go ahead an unveil the statue of Phil right then and there.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby lakersyunowin on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:29 am

Weezy wrote:I'm not trying to blame Jim for Kobe getting injured, but he deserves some blame. His ego got in the way of bringing back Phil, who gets the most out of his role players and will ride lineups to rest guys even to a fault. Would we be great with Phil? No, I don't think so, but we'd be better managed as a team, better coached overall, and Kobe wouldn't play 48 mins a game.

by no means do i think we'd be ruling the west. but i can say with confidence that we would not be scrapping for the 8th seed, and kobe would not have had to play til his wheel fell off.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby borri on Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:46 am

Weezy wrote:I'm not trying to blame Jim for Kobe getting injured, but he deserves some blame. His ego got in the way of bringing back Phil, who gets the most out of his role players and will ride lineups to rest guys even to a fault. Would we be great with Phil? No, I don't think so, but we'd be better managed as a team, better coached overall, and Kobe wouldn't play 48 mins a game.


I think I can safely say that if PJ was the coach. BOTH Nash and Kobe would still be playing right now AND we wouldn't be fighting for the 8th seed.

Uptempo offense with 39 yo Nash and 34 yo Kobe AND running an 8 man rotation.....recipe for disaster...and boy was it ever a disaster.
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Re: Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:34 pm

The really infuriating part is knowing that Jim Buss is probably going to continue to defend the D(less)Antoni hire and refuse to make a change next year. :mad1:
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