Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

venturalakersfan wrote:He was a third of the decision-making team for the Lakers. If you don't understand, then I won't waste my time discussing it.

Dmouse wrote:I don't want to speculate but there r a lot of rumors being leaked before any trade happens. Just a hunch but I can see all those might have started from one of Jim's friend and confidant. Mitch and Leslie back when they do things r quiet until everything is completed.

The problem starts with Jerry Buss, Jennie is very capable of taking over the Lakers ( read laker girl). Jim who deserve part of the empire has not proven himself, so Jerry made the decision and place him as GM. Jim should have been just one of the other kids that gets a paycheck, but since he showed interest in the Lakers he had to give him an important job. The job resulted in trust issue between players and management, trust issues that is built by having relationship, Jennie build that thrust with the fans, Jim has not done that.

Dmouse wrote:I don't want to speculate but there r a lot of rumors being leaked before any trade happens. Just a hunch but I can see all those might have started from one of Jim's friend and confidant. Mitch and Leslie back when they do things r quiet until everything is completed.

The problem starts with Jerry Buss, Jennie is very capable of taking over the Lakers ( read laker girl). Jim who deserve part of the empire has not proven himself, so Jerry made the decision and place him as GM. Jim should have been just one of the other kids that gets a paycheck, but since he showed interest in the Lakers he had to give him an important job. The job resulted in trust issue between players and management, trust issues that is built by having relationship, Jennie build that thrust with the fans, Jim has not done that.

venturalakersfan wrote:

kray28 wrote:

last stand wrote:jim makes moves as a fan. just like his father and just like cuban. its the best way to own a team. having an emotional interest in the team as opposed to a business always leads to more wins.

jim is a laker fan, he will always treat the team as such and i trust him because he's a fan

Actually I would think being a fan would only get in the way of being an effective GM/personnel guy.

Being a fan is probably a good thing, you can get a good vibe for how the general fandom feels about certain players and use that to help make decisions. But I get your point, being too much of a fan might lead you to not make a trade that would be good for the team because of an attachment to a certain player.

lakersfever wrote:Jim Buss hired Brown. That is his decision 100%. He has absolutely nothing to do with the previous championships because Dr. Buss was still the owner and was letting Mitch calling the shots. Jimmy Boy and Brown need to go, the sooner the better. But it probably won't happen because Dr. Buss loves his son more than his beloved Lakers. It is what it is. Just like Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, you can hate him all you want. He's still the owner and he can do whatever he wants. It's really disappointing to be a Lakers fan right now.

venturalakersfan wrote:Jim isn't going anywhere. I don't remember these critics the past 4 seasons with Jim as the GM.

TalkieWalkie wrote:Jim panic-selling Lamar... FTL

kray28 wrote:

venturalakersfan wrote:Jim isn't going anywhere. I don't remember these critics the past 4 seasons with Jim as the GM.

Jim isn't the GM....he's Vice President of Player Personnel or something. He is, for the lack of a better phrase: ownership meddling on the basketball side of things.

You know, the stuff Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder get heat for all the time.

It's one thing for ownership to be involved on the business side like Jeannie is...that's to be expected, but ownership actively being involved in player/personnel/scouting/talent evaluation....that's not something I think is a good idea.

If they are unhappy with Mitch, they need to let him go and bring in another reputable GM, otherwise, Jimmy needs to butt his head out of basketball operations and leave that to Mitch.

The hot potato for Jim Buss: You had to have had a better plan than grinding Kobe down with 40 minute games. That, in itself, is failure.

(When asked about Plan A - Chris Paul not happening) People everywhere have Plan B's. That's just a part of managing things. Anything but 40 mins for Kobe every night.

They get plenty of credit for making that (Chris Paul) deal. But when it fell thru, they still needed to get help, no matter what.

It's probably fair to say the Busses panicked with the Odom trade and are now hamstrung by it. But maybe that's unfair of me to say too.

(When asked "Dad letting son fail fast to grow fast") That's optimistic. Let's hope so.

The case can be made that the Lakers have made mistakes in this short season that will haunt the franchise for some time.

(Regarding OC Reg article about Kobe asking Lakers mgmt to make decision on Pau) Did that just happen? Did Kobe just send Jim Buss a message to quit screwin' around with his team? Has he joined the rebellion?

That's the next big disappointment for Lakers fans, that Gasol will be dealt at the deadline, probably in a crappy deal. Money dictates it.

No wonder other GMs talk about Kupchak's gloom. He knows he's going to have to dump Gasol like he dumped Odom.

Crappy deals ahead. But Lakers fans aren't going to buy the money angle not with that Time Warner fat cash deal out there.

Bigs like Gasol don't come along but maybe once in a franchise's lifetime, if they're lucky. Mitch will have to hold his nose to do that one