Jim Buss = End of the Lakers as we know them...

lotus wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/17362549/kobes-frustration-a-reflection-on-lakers-deteriorating-front-office

Mike Bresnahan of the LA Times wrote:
Magic Johnson: Jim Buss is running the Lakers, not Mitch Kupchak

These are uncomfortable days for the Lakers, who can't avoid the glare of the drama spotlight yet again.

Magic Johnson said in a conference call Wednesday that Lakers executive Jim Buss, not General Manager Mitch Kupchak, was making the important decisions for the franchise.

"It's not Mitch's situation anymore. Mitch isn't running the team. Jim Buss is running the team," Johnson said. "Mitch has to follow the direction of Jim Buss and what he wants. I wouldn't say Mitch is the problem. He's going to do his job."

Mitch Kupchak has been in the Lakers' front office for 25 years but Buss had been gradually handed more power over the years by his father, team owner Jerry Buss.

Jim Buss should meet personally with Kobe Bryant because the 14-time All-Star "just wants to be informed as a leader and future Hall of Famer and guy who has brought five championships to the Lakers," Johnson said.

"He wants more communication probably like he did when [former Coach] Phil Jackson was there and he worked well with Mitch. I don't think Kobe feels he has that type of relationship or the communication has been there with Jim. What probably has to happen is they need to sit Kobe down and sit Jim down. Dr. [Jerry] Buss was the master at taking you to lunch or taking you to dinner and going over what he was thinking and what he wanted to do with the team. Jerry West was good at that as well. Kobe, Mitch and Jim just have to get on the same page and things will be OK."

When asked if he would meet with Jim Buss, Kobe responded Wednesday, "Um, perhaps."
Johnson praised Bryant for airing his frustrations about the front office's unclear future plans with four-time All-Star Pau Gasol.
"I'm proud of Kobe for being a good teammate and being a good leader and voicing his opinion," said Johnson, who sold his 4.5% ownership stake in the Lakers two years ago but remains on the team payroll as a vice president.

On Wednesday, Bryant clarified why he challenged the front office.

"Nobody else is going to say it, man," Bryant said after the Lakers' shoot-around in Dallas. "I'm the only onw with [courage] big enough to say it, so I said it."

Bryant also discussed the brief, informal discussion among Lakers players after their victory Monday against Portland.

"I wouldn't have called it a team meeting," he said. "After the game, guys talked, D-Fish got up and talked, said a couple of words, and that was about it.

"It was just us understanding that we reached the midway point of the year and we really have to lock in on what we have to do and stay focused on ourselves and not let any outside distractions, be it trade talk, be it criticsism or whatever the case may be, interfere with what we have to do as a group, as a cohesive unit."

Derek Fisher, Bryant said, was "the one that calls the meetings and does most of the emotional speaking."

Bryant also weighed in on the Lakers' first trip back to Dallas since getting swept here in four games in the Western Conference semifinals last May. The teams play each other Wednesday at American Airlines Center.

One reporter asked if Dallas dinged up the Lakers' mystique last season.

"It's tough to put a dent in mystique with all of them [championship] banners," Bryant said. "They had a great year last year. They kicked our butts, that's for darn sure. But we're going to be back at it. We're middle of the pack right now but we have aspirations of being there again in June and seeing this team in the playoffs."

Can the Lakers do it with their current roster?

"Yeah, we can but we've got to be damn near perfect," Bryant said.

Johnson thought otherwise, saying the team needed to make "one or two trades" before the March 15 deadline.

If the Lakers don't pull off a trade and Buss doesn't communicate with the organization, Johnson remains pessimistic about the Lakers' championship hopes.

"They can compete for the Western Conference championship," said Johnson, who predicted the Miami Heat would win the NBA title. "But if they don't [make a trade], I don't think they'll compete. I think Oklahoma City is better. San Antonio is also playing better than the Lakers right now."

Bryant talked further about Lakers Coach Mike Brown, who has been questioned by some players about his substitution patterns and lack of rest between games.

"It's a constant learning process for him, coming to a group that we know how to play so well together and so forth," Bryant said. "We have certain things that are habitual for us, whether it's pre-game routines and other stuff. They seem shocking to him: 'How the hell did you win championships doing this stuff?' But it works for us. It's just a matter of him kind of getting used to it. He's doing it."

Bryant declined to elaborate.

Brown said he was pleased that the Lakers talked after Monday's game.

"I think it's great," he said. "If they have them in the future, to me I think that's a big positive, but I also do not need to know what they talked about in there."

last stand wrote:Not defending Jim buss on that because he should make an effort to contact Kobe. However my guess is that Jim and probably Jerry still haven't forgiven Kobe for his tirade in 2007. When Kobe called dr. Buss an idiot among other things. You haven't seen much contact between Kobe and Jerry, and since Jim is basically all about his father I'm guessing that's related to this

last stand wrote:

lakers_09tv wrote:

last stand wrote:Not defending Jim buss on that because he should make an effort to contact Kobe. However my guess is that Jim and probably Jerry still haven't forgiven Kobe for his tirade in 2007. When Kobe called dr. Buss an idiot among other things. You haven't seen much contact between Kobe and Jerry, and since Jim is basically all about his father I'm guessing that's related to this

You have an excuse for everything. Hilarious.

How is that even an excuse. It's called reasoning. Kobe called jims father an idiot and attacked him through the media. This is a fact. Jim buss is extremely close to his father which is documented.

Put 2 and 2 together before you personally attack me. Use some logic, use your education. If not use your own personal life. Would you be close with someone if they attacked your father in the media for everyone the see and hear

last stand wrote:

lakers_09tv wrote:

last stand wrote:Not defending Jim buss on that because he should make an effort to contact Kobe. However my guess is that Jim and probably Jerry still haven't forgiven Kobe for his tirade in 2007. When Kobe called dr. Buss an idiot among other things. You haven't seen much contact between Kobe and Jerry, and since Jim is basically all about his father I'm guessing that's related to this

You have an excuse for everything. Hilarious.

How is that even an excuse. It's called reasoning. Kobe called jims father an idiot and attacked him through the media. This is a fact. Jim buss is extremely close to his father which is documented.

Put 2 and 2 together before you personally attack me. Use some logic, use your education. If not use your own personal life. Would you be close with someone if they attacked your father in the media for everyone the see and hear

Magic Johnson views Jerry Buss as a father. Magic publicly bashing Jim Buss really shows how deep Lakers' problems are.

Magic: "I've been with the Lakers orginization almost 35 years and this is really the saddest, most dissapointed I've been with the Lakers."

Magic: "Jim, if you got the reigns, you got to be a great owner like your dad was."

He followed it with a laugh but it was hard to hear @MagicJohnson say, "I gave them up. I gave the Lakers up."

The Rock wrote:

Magic Johnson views Jerry Buss as a father. Magic publicly bashing Jim Buss really shows how deep Lakers' problems are.

Magic: "I've been with the Lakers orginization almost 35 years and this is really the saddest, most dissapointed I've been with the Lakers."

Magic: "Jim, if you got the reigns, you got to be a great owner like your dad was."

He followed it with a laugh but it was hard to hear @MagicJohnson say, "I gave them up. I gave the Lakers up."

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Weezy wrote:I never actually watched Magic play (aside from his quick return in like 95 or whenever that was) as I started watching the Lakers in '92, but even still watching him say "I gave them up, I gave the Lakers up" while laughing was kinda harsh. I think he might have gone a little too far there, I know he's not from LA and he sold his share of the team, but he's still majorly associated with the Lakers, longtime fans had to feel a little stung hearing he's given up the Lakers.

Weezy wrote:I never actually watched Magic play (aside from his quick return in like 95 or whenever that was) as I started watching the Lakers in '92, but even still watching him say "I gave them up, I gave the Lakers up" while laughing was kinda harsh. I think he might have gone a little too far there, I know he's not from LA and he sold his share of the team, but he's still majorly associated with the Lakers, longtime fans had to feel a little stung hearing he's given up the Lakers.