Jodie Meeks Discussion: career high 42 for OKC (81)

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Weezy on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:17 am

I have no idea, like I said in another thread, that's the scary part, do Jim and Mitch even have a plan? is the Dwight situation going to hurt our chances of signing guys? Is our crap coach going to hurt our chances of signing guys? I'm not trying to call what you're doing revisionist history at all, I just wanted to know some guys you think can be had for the minimum. Last offseason I wanted CJ Watson for example, and I would take him again this offseason .
User avatar
Weezy
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 49736
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:14 am
Location: Anaheim, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:31 am

The guys that I think could go for Meeks' price and lower are (Note: These are guys I want on the Lakers, not naming the people I think are scrubs).....

Daniel Gibson
Toney Douglas (If Sacto doesn't accept his QO of 3.1 million, which makes him an UFA)
Shaun Livingston
CJ Watson
Mike James
Aaron Brooks
Anthony Morrow
Leandro Barbosa
Wayne Ellington (If CLE doesn't accept his QO of 3.1 million, which makes him an UFA)
Ronnie Brewer
Glock
LO
Matt Barnes
Alan Anderson
Sam Young
Elton Brand
Andray Blatche
Jermaine O'Neal
Kenyon Martin
Birdman
Rule of Thumb at ClubLakers - Never encourage people to check your post history.
User avatar
Doc Brown

 
Posts: 18263
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:11 am
Location: Ohio

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Weezy on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:36 am

I like a lot of those players for the minimum. I don't think Gibson, Douglas or Mike James are better than Meeks though.
User avatar
Weezy
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 49736
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:14 am
Location: Anaheim, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby borri on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:04 pm

Weezy wrote:I like a lot of those players for the minimum. I don't think Gibson, Douglas or Mike James are better than Meeks though.


Don't know about that. I willing to wager that those guys can hit a wide open 3 at a higher clip than Meeks.
User avatar
borri

 
Posts: 8027
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:16 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Weezy on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:16 pm

borri wrote:
Weezy wrote:I like a lot of those players for the minimum. I don't think Gibson, Douglas or Mike James are better than Meeks though.


Don't know about that. I willing to wager that those guys can hit a wide open 3 at a higher clip than Meeks.


I'm not basing value on that alone though. I do not agree that Douglas is better than Meeks, Gibson I'd say is on the same level, and Mike James was better than him years ago, but not now, he's ancient.
User avatar
Weezy
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 49736
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:14 am
Location: Anaheim, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby khmrP on Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:00 pm

all you have to be able to do is make layups and hit wide open shots and you'll automatically be better than Meeks.
User avatar
khmrP

 
Posts: 9956
Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 10:45 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby dj vitus on Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:54 pm

The only thing he did well last season was getting back on defense.

I'd rather have someone shoot 1/3 three games in a row instead of 3/3 one game and 0/6 over the next two. That won't hold up in the playoffs.
"Why are they blocking out all the good stuff? They let Sarah Jessica Parker's face on TV and she looks like a foot!!"
User avatar
dj vitus

 
Posts: 9231
Joined: Sun May 02, 2004 6:59 pm
Location: Walnut, CA by way of Laaaas Vegas!

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:46 am

But whoever was holding the purple and gold Voodoo doll spared Meeks only for so long. He suffered a third-degree sprain in his left ankle in the Lakers' opening playoff loss to the San Antonio Spurs, ending his season three games sooner than his team did after the Lakers' decimated roster was swept by the Spurs.

"It was really bad timing," Meeks told ESPNLosAngeles.com in a phone interview from his offseason home in Atlanta on Monday. "I was very frustrated just because, selfishly, I was like, ‘Man, I can get as many shots as I want now and I can’t even play.’

"I felt like it was a good opportunity for me to kind of showcase what I could do on a more productive level because the guys were hurt."


We are going into the playoffs last year and this is what he is thinking about? Getting as much shots as he can? Showcasing himself?

Glad to see the mentality matches the game.......trash.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/37096/meeks-seeks-to-emerge-from-forgotten-man-status
Rule of Thumb at ClubLakers - Never encourage people to check your post history.
User avatar
Doc Brown

 
Posts: 18263
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:11 am
Location: Ohio

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby therealdeal on Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:28 am

Granted, the 2012-13 season was pretty crummy for every Los Angeles Lakers player, but consider the plight of Jodie Meeks.

After two and a half solid seasons in Philadelphia, where Meeks established himself as a valued contributor on playoff teams, the sweet-shooting guard signed with L.A. at a discount with the hopes of winning a ring.

While he witnessed his teammates go down left and right with injuries as the season wore on, Meeks fortunately avoided any health problems. With Kobe Bryant out with a torn Achilles tendon, it was Meeks who was on the court at shooting guard in Bryant's place in the regular-season finale against the Houston Rockets, driving baseline and throwing down a game-sealing dunk in overtime to secure L.A. the seventh seed in the postseason.

But whoever was holding the purple and gold Voodoo doll spared Meeks only for so long. He suffered a third-degree sprain in his left ankle in the Lakers' opening playoff loss to the San Antonio Spurs, ending his season three games sooner than his team did after the Lakers' decimated roster was swept by the Spurs.

"It was really bad timing," Meeks told ESPNLosAngeles.com in a phone interview from his offseason home in Atlanta on Monday. "I was very frustrated just because, selfishly, I was like, ‘Man, I can get as many shots as I want now and I can’t even play.’

"I felt like it was a good opportunity for me to kind of showcase what I could do on a more productive level because the guys were hurt."

As this upcoming season approaches, all Meeks wants is that opportunity again.

"In the exit interview I sat down with Coach [Mike] D’Antoni and [general manager] Mitch [Kupchak] and they just said I need to come into training camp basically hitting the ground running because we’re not sure when Kobe will be back exactly," Meeks said.

Not that the job is automatically his in Bryant's absence. In the offseason the Lakers signed Nick Young, a talented wing player who is a natural shooting guard but could be relied on to play more small forward with Metta World Peace now in New York. They also brought in Jordan Farmar, who can play both guard spots. And of course there are still the Steves -- Nash and Blake -- who will command minutes in the backcourt.

Even though D'Antoni has vowed to play an 11-man rotation next season, Meeks knows that it's not realistic to think all six guards will get consistent playing time.

"I try not to worry about stuff I can’t control," Meeks said. "I have a year under my belt with Coach D’Antoni’s system so that kind of puts me ahead of the curve to start the season, but at the end of the day, you have to be productive when you get out there. My main focus is just doing that. Doing what I can when I’m out there, being productive and trying to win games. I think when that stuff happens I won’t have anything to worry about."

Meeks' productivity was unpredictable last season. He scored in double digits in 26 of the 78 games he played -- most memorably scoring 12 of his 19 points in the fourth quarter of an epic comeback in New Orleans and torching Denver for 21 points on 7-for-8 shooting from downtown -- but he also had 22 games with one made field goal or fewer. That is to say far too often he was a shooter who was not making shots.

Meeks, who turns 26 this week, said none other than Magic Johnson encouraged him to stay confident in his shot and play his game, something that has fueled him this summer.

While he is still undergoing rehab on his left ankle ("I tore a couple ligaments," Meeks said of the severity of the injury), he was cleared to resume full-contact drills a month and a half ago and should be fully healthy as he enters a contract year.

"I try not to think about it," Meeks said of his impending free agency following the final year on his Lakers' deal set to pay him $1.55 million. "Usually when you don’t think about things, good stuff happens, and when you think about it, you put too much pressure on it. Human nature is obviously to think about it, and I’m sure everybody knows I’m in a contract year, but you try not to worry about that kind of stuff."

Instead, Meeks stays positive when thinking about next season ("I think we’ll still have a good team and I think we’ll still make the playoffs," Meeks said) and his long-term future with the franchise ("You’re part of a high-class organization that has won a lot of championships and hopefully I can be on the next one that wins.")

And for the record, Meeks, who entered the league without a guaranteed contract as a former second-round pick by Milwaukee, has no interest in rehashing his friend Dwight Howard's decision to go to Houston.

"I don’t really get surprised with anything that happens anymore in the NBA just because it’s a business," Meeks said. "Obviously you get shook sometimes, but I just try to sit back and watch and try to survive as long as I possibly can."

Thriving in Lakers training camp from day one will do wonders for his survival.

"I think it’s more mental," Meeks said. "Telling myself that it’s a really big opportunity for myself to show what I can do. Regardless of what the situation is, I’m going into this last month, month and a half of summer training thinking I’m going to be playing major minutes or possibly starting. If that doesn’t happen, then it just doesn’t happen, but I think that’s mentally what I have to think about."
Stu : "Yeah, that's an old fashioned whoopin'."
therealdeal
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 36934
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:03 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby therealdeal on Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:31 am

I didn't know he actually tore ligaments in his ankle. That's way more damage than I thought he had.

I like Jodie. I hope he has a better year than he did last season. Our back court is suddenly crowded with average talent. He'll have to do something incredible to earn minutes.
Stu : "Yeah, that's an old fashioned whoopin'."
therealdeal
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 36934
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:03 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby khmrP on Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:38 am

shouldve looked for trading partners as soon as Young/Johnson was signed then Farmar....this guy should be glued to the bench, thats where he belongs unless an injury occurs.
User avatar
khmrP

 
Posts: 9956
Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 10:45 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Weezy on Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:21 pm

khmrP wrote:shouldve looked for trading partners as soon as Young/Johnson was signed then Farmar....this guy should be glued to the bench, thats where he belongs unless an injury occurs.


Well you have to remember this is an 'Antoni team so we're small, Young and Johnson are our SF's, our only ones unless you count Harris. Meeks is our only backup SG, and with Kobe out that's kind of important, unless you want Blake playing there a ton, Farmar is certainly not a SG. Meeks may not be great, but he's currently needed.
User avatar
Weezy
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 49736
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:14 am
Location: Anaheim, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby khmrP on Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:27 pm

^^^Farmar/Blake should play together tough....at least Blake some what deserving of the title "3pt shooter" at times as oppose to brick machine here. Playing 2 PG together with solid handling is always a good thing, if only one of them had the size and defense like Kidd does.
User avatar
khmrP

 
Posts: 9956
Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 10:45 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Weezy on Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:34 pm

I wouldn't mind Farmar and Blake together some at all, but again I anticipate Kobe will be out some, and when he's back play low minutes at least to start, Meeks is needed still. Plus I would anticipate Nash will play lower minutes, that Nash and Blake will have some injuries as they seem to have every season, Meeks, or at least some backup SG is needed, but we went with Meeks as he's cheap. To me it's a lost season so I'm like eh, whatever.
User avatar
Weezy
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 49736
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:14 am
Location: Anaheim, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Punk-101 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:52 pm

I'll take Blake at backup sg all day, every day over Meeks!
Image
“Action has meaning only in relationship; and without understanding relationship, action on any level will only breed conflict. The understanding of relationship is infinitely more important than the search for any plan of action.”
-Jiddu Krishnamurti
User avatar
Punk-101

 
Posts: 12972
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:24 pm
Location: Orange, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Weezy on Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:57 pm

Ok, say he's backup SG, that means he's starting SG while Kobe is out. So who backs up Blake? Meeks. We need Meeks, it sucks, but it's true, although I don't believe he's as bad as he's being made out to be by many here.
User avatar
Weezy
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 49736
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:14 am
Location: Anaheim, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby khmrP on Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:07 pm

Weezy wrote:Ok, say he's backup SG, that means he's starting SG while Kobe is out. So who backs up Blake? Meeks. We need Meeks, it sucks, but it's true, although I don't believe he's as bad as he's being made out to be by many here.


-No Handles
-No Mid Range
-Can't create shots
-Can't finish layups/drives in traffic
-To small to guard SG
-To slow to guard fast G
-Saving grace is 3pt shooting, shoots 36%

Guess with his constant activity/hustle he doesn't appear bad but end of day he doesn't get much done, he's Guard version of Mark Madsen.....keep saying he's cheap, he's 1.5 mill and a $3mill+ liability with taxes. Not cheap for what he does but for half of that we could just pick up some dleague or even CDR who I dont like at all but he'd probably take vet min and his vet min is alot less than $1.5mill
User avatar
khmrP

 
Posts: 9956
Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 10:45 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Punk-101 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:09 pm

Weezy wrote:Ok, say he's backup SG, that means he's starting SG while Kobe is out. So who backs up Blake? Meeks. We need Meeks, it sucks, but it's true, although I don't believe he's as bad as he's being made out to be by many here.

I know. That's what i meant.
Image
“Action has meaning only in relationship; and without understanding relationship, action on any level will only breed conflict. The understanding of relationship is infinitely more important than the search for any plan of action.”
-Jiddu Krishnamurti
User avatar
Punk-101

 
Posts: 12972
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:24 pm
Location: Orange, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:56 pm

khmrP wrote:shouldve looked for trading partners as soon as Young/Johnson was signed then Farmar....this guy should be glued to the bench, thats where he belongs unless an injury occurs.


Realistically this is a pretty pessimistic view of Meeks don't ya think? :man1:
"If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill

“The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present - and is gravely to be regarded." Dwight Eisenhower

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it" Thomas Sowell
User avatar
Rooscooter

 
Posts: 21086
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:25 pm
Location: Coeur D' Alene, ID and Chandler AZ

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:40 am

Rooscooter wrote:
khmrP wrote:shouldve looked for trading partners as soon as Young/Johnson was signed then Farmar....this guy should be glued to the bench, thats where he belongs unless an injury occurs.


Realistically this is a pretty pessimistic view of Meeks don't ya think? :man1:


little different here confucious, Meeks has proven to suck while you on the other hand are making claims of lakers impending doom within the next 2 season as your "realistic" scenario when nothing of the sort has even occured :freak2:
User avatar
khmrP

 
Posts: 9956
Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 10:45 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:07 am

Why does he continue to start and play?

I got to watch 5 minutes of the game at the beginning of the 3rd quarter. 1-2 from 3, left Curry wide open for a 3, left Thompson open for a 3, turned the ball over.

And that's the part of the game he actually contributed anything. From the looks of the box score, he played the other 17 minutes looking like a ghost that managed to get 1 board.
Rule of Thumb at ClubLakers - Never encourage people to check your post history.
User avatar
Doc Brown

 
Posts: 18263
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:11 am
Location: Ohio

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Weezy on Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:14 am

He's pointless, if you didn't KNOW that he played from seeing the starting lineups announced or seeing the stat sheet, you wouldn't know he played, he was invisible.
User avatar
Weezy
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 49736
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:14 am
Location: Anaheim, CA

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:52 am

The kid has worn his welcome. He doesn't really deserve a rotation spot even in pre-season. I'd rather see other guys get those minutes at this point. If the Lakers were willing to buy him out and give that spot to DJO I'd be ecstatic.

Like I've been saying, good kid but he's just ineffective at this point.
Stu : "Yeah, that's an old fashioned whoopin'."
therealdeal
CL Global Moderator
 
Posts: 36934
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:03 pm

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Center Court on Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:14 am

therealdeal wrote:The kid has worn his welcome. He doesn't really deserve a rotation spot even in pre-season. I'd rather see other guys get those minutes at this point. If the Lakers were willing to buy him out and give that spot to DJO I'd be ecstatic.

Like I've been saying, good kid but he's just ineffective at this point.



Ineffective is the best word. This system fits him alright but the personal does not. He needs a situation like Miami where he can just move off the ball and get fed for open 3's.

Seems like a real likable guy guy but business is business. If there is a trade out there, we need to explore it especially with the way Henry is coming on.
User avatar
Center Court

 
Posts: 2880
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:45 pm
Location: @ CL since '04

Re: Jodie Meeks Discussion: team exercises option for 13-14 (71)

Postby Snakell Beast on Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:41 am

Meeks is past his peak, he's reached his NBA ceiling and is spiraling down. He needs to go. DJO is the kind of young, hungry athlete that we need right now, especially since we have so many other guys who can play the 2 in D'Antoni' system. Trade Meeks (to a team that needs a "shooter") for a second round pick, or some grass fed beef to feed our caveman, and let's move on from this catastrophe. :disagree:
The End is nigh. Time for a total Cut and Shuffle. Kobe contract was a mistake...time to avoid making more. The future is here, whether we want it to be or not. An era is over, but for the death rattle, and it's time for the cycle to begin anew. Growth and change are scary and painful, but alas...nothing worth achieving comes easily.
User avatar
Snakell Beast

 
Posts: 1866
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:54 pm
Location: Ithaca, NY

PreviousNext

Return to Lakers Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Battle Tested20, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], lakerfan2, Mr. Fundamentals, psbot [Picsearch], Punk-101, TIME and 7 guests

cron
Advertise Here | Privacy Policy | ©2008 Sculu Sports. Come Strong.