Jodie Meeks Discussion: Defensive Liability

bruddahmanmatt wrote:

therealdeal wrote:

XXIV wrote:

therealdeal wrote:

XXIV wrote:therealdeal, who is your post directed to?

... you.

Ah, just making sure with all these Blake/Duhon jokes flying around.

I'm kidding it definitely wasn't you. It was bruddah.

WAT?

Meeks is not known as a great defensive player, but he ranked No. 1 among shooting guards in opponent PER last season, holding opposing 2-guards to a mere 8.5 PER, according to 82games.com. Granted, opponent PER is not a flawless statistic, and it can be impacted by team defense (Philadelphia was the third-best defensive team in the NBA last season), but at the very least, it’s clear that Meeks is an above-average on-ball defender, and at best he's an outstanding one, on the level of players like Dwyane Wade and Ronnie Brewer.

therealdeal wrote:To me the point of Jodie Meeks' defense has been over-underrated. We all know now that he is actually an above average on-ball defender, but because we all keep hearing he's a good defender we're going to expect the world.

last stand wrote:i don't want kobe, pau, or nash on the floor for 40 minutes unless we are playing OKC, miami, san antonio

otherwise i hope to god we can severly limit their minutes. i'm praying 32-34 at most

Rooscooter wrote:Meeks is not a top flight bench player...... if he was we wouldn't have gotten him for what we got him for..... WTS... he's going to be better than what we've had and he seems to have a balanced game, some quickness and speed..... things I haven't seen off the bench for a long time on this team....

If he and Blake can provide some pesky defense and shoot the 3 our second unit will have some great success.... the problem last year was that our only shooter (Blake) was also the primary ball handler.... the few times Goudelock got it going we had success.... If Meeks can do that consistently it will open up a bunch of things for the second unit..... and just maybe we won't be playing close games in the 4th with Kobe at 40 minutes all year...

Rooscooter wrote:

last stand wrote:i don't want kobe, pau, or nash on the floor for 40 minutes unless we are playing OKC, miami, san antonio

otherwise i hope to god we can severly limit their minutes. i'm praying 32-34 at most

Nash will be at around 32 at most...... he may be in physically great shape but 40 is 40..... Kobe needs to be at or around that 32 minute mark as well. Pau will play more IMO this year than last.... at least at the start of the year. We have no offensive back-up center and he will fill that role primarily as well as the starting PF... I expect him to be at 36 minutes or so.

GoldenKnight wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:

last stand wrote:i don't want kobe, pau, or nash on the floor for 40 minutes unless we are playing OKC, miami, san antonio

otherwise i hope to god we can severly limit their minutes. i'm praying 32-34 at most

Nash will be at around 32 at most...... he may be in physically great shape but 40 is 40..... Kobe needs to be at or around that 32 minute mark as well. Pau will play more IMO this year than last.... at least at the start of the year. We have no offensive back-up center and he will fill that role primarily as well as the starting PF... I expect him to be at 36 minutes or so.

39 not 40...1 year makes a huge difference at that age.

Rooscooter wrote:

GoldenKnight wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:

last stand wrote:i don't want kobe, pau, or nash on the floor for 40 minutes unless we are playing OKC, miami, san antonio

otherwise i hope to god we can severly limit their minutes. i'm praying 32-34 at most

Nash will be at around 32 at most...... he may be in physically great shape but 40 is 40..... Kobe needs to be at or around that 32 minute mark as well. Pau will play more IMO this year than last.... at least at the start of the year. We have no offensive back-up center and he will fill that role primarily as well as the starting PF... I expect him to be at 36 minutes or so.

39 not 40...1 year makes a huge difference at that age.

preaching to the choir on that one......

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:Because he's Mike Brown

kray28 wrote:

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:Because he's Mike Brown

Let's reserve judgment after one preseason game where he basically threw all the camp fodder to the wolves in the second half just to see how big the train wreck would be.

therealdeal wrote:It's one preseason game, so I'm not upset about it. What I'm worried about is Meeks' mentality because he has BEEN practicing with those guys. Not to mention we've all heard Brown talk about Hill's "natural backup 4" position which pushes Jamison up.

I'm worried that Meeks becomes upset here and doesn't get his chance because he's a solid young player and what he showed me on the court yesterday was good defense and a solid stroke. I want to see him backing up Kobe Bryant, not Ebanks.