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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby XXIV on Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:04 pm

jlkr wrote:cant have too much depth for older players who are injury-prone. so I like the Farmar signing in that respect. Not counting on both Blake and Nash to stay healthy all the time. Think both of the older PG's will need their minutes limited to preserve them for the entire season. So that's an opportunity for Farmar to step up.


I'm glad you took out the part about bringing back Morris. :man10:
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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby jlkr on Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:07 pm

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jlkr wrote:cant have too much depth for older players who are injury-prone. so I like the Farmar signing in that respect. Not counting on both Blake and Nash to stay healthy all the time. Think both of the older PG's will need their minutes limited to preserve them for the entire season. So that's an opportunity for Farmar to step up.


I'm glad you took out the part about bringing back Morris. :man10:

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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby pound4pound1 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:15 pm

"I've been a Laker since I was born," Farmar said. "I grew up a Laker fan, so regardless of where I am or who I'm playing for, or what I'm doing in life, I'm always going to stay connected to what's going on here [in Los Angeles]."



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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby gill on Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:46 pm

I can see Farmar thriving in D'Antoni's system. He likes to run and gun and can learn a thing or two from Nash... actually, make that "learn a lot" from Nash.

So does this make Blake expendable? Because... Blake for Ariza works. :man12:
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby TheOp on Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:50 pm

Yes I love this move! Farmar improved so much when he left. He only played in 39 games last season and 21 MPG so im not sure if he was injured or what. But he played very well. 10 ppg, 3 apg, and shot 46 % FG, 44 % 3 pt and made 1.5 threes a game. Hes just reaching his prime too. I feel like hes kind of underrated.

Now if we could just get rid of Blake, ill be happy with our PG spot. Hopefully we can move him for a legit SF.
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby LOSLAKERS on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:04 pm

Everyone keeps talking about this Blake + Meeks for Ariza thing... Is Washington even willing to do this and why?
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:06 pm

LOSLAKERS wrote:Everyone keeps talking about this Blake + Meeks for Ariza thing... Is Washington even willing to do this and why?

No they aren't because it's a bad deal for them. :man10:
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby denimPortugal on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:08 pm

LOSLAKERS wrote:Everyone keeps talking about this Blake + Meeks for Ariza thing... Is Washington even willing to do this and why?


Would be...Noooice11 :man13:
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby Tobias Funke on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:58 pm

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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:13 pm

LOSLAKERS wrote:Everyone keeps talking about this Blake + Meeks for Ariza thing... Is Washington even willing to do this and why?


A Better question is why would we want Ariza? He was a great 5th guy out there that could do what was needed but as a real cog in an offense he's out of his element at a position we really need a good player at. He's never really fit the SF mold for a team and that's evident by his shooting % and watching him try and create off the dribble.

He's highly thought of here because he played an integral role in a championship but that team needed a significantly different thing from that position than this needs...
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:19 pm

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LOSLAKERS wrote:Everyone keeps talking about this Blake + Meeks for Ariza thing... Is Washington even willing to do this and why?

No they aren't because it's a bad deal for them. :man10:


It's not terrible. Looking at their current depth chart, they drafted a couple SF's, and are lacking a backup PG for Wall, and need a SG with Barbosa gone.

No disadvantage to Washington. It would give the Lakers the flexibility to amnesty MWP.
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:22 pm

Was has Maynor to play PG behind Wall.
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:24 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
LOSLAKERS wrote:Everyone keeps talking about this Blake + Meeks for Ariza thing... Is Washington even willing to do this and why?


A Better question is why would we want Ariza? He was a great 5th guy out there that could do what was needed but as a real cog in an offense he's out of his element at a position we really need a good player at. He's never really fit the SF mold for a team and that's evident by his shooting % and watching him try and create off the dribble.

He's highly thought of here because he played an integral role in a championship but that team needed a significantly different thing from that position than this needs...


First thing, it would allow us to amnesty Metta and get under the Apron.

As far as fit, he fit here because he did what he was suppose to, and was not in a free offense like the Hornets or Washington.

When we had Pau and Kobe facilitating, he played much like Earl did. Hitting jumpers, slashing the basket, playing good defense, all without going outside his role.
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:25 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Was has Maynor to play PG behind Wall.


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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby chingy248 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:51 pm

The Lakers are trying to sign free-agent guard Jordan Farmar, but it's not as easy as putting pen to paper.

Farmar hopes to sign with his former team for $1.2 million and openly talks about his NBA return after spending last season overseas, but the Lakers must negotiate a buyout of his contract with a pro team in Turkey.

If Farmar returned, the Lakers would have five guards and would no longer pursue another former Lakers player, Sasha Vujacic, who was considered a longshot to make their roster in the first place.

As usual, there are a lot of "ifs" this time of year.

"We are currently working with Jordan to see if we can reach an agreement between him, the Lakers and his team in Turkey," Lakers spokesman John Black said Wednesday. "Beyond that, we cannot comment further on the situation."

Farmar, 26, last played in the NBA during the 2011-12 season, averaging 10.4 points and 3.3 assists with New Jersey.

He signed a lucrative deal to play in Turkey and would need the Lakers to buy out that deal for $500,000.

The Lakers, though, are hoping to negotiate a lower buyout figure to obtain Farmar, who averaged 6.9 points and 2.1 assists over four seasons with them. He left as a free agent after the 2009-10 season.

In an interview Wednesday with The Times, Farmar spoke with hope that a deal would get done.

He was a stubborn, and often cocky, player in his first run with the Lakers but seemed eager to prove himself as a changed person.

"To be able to play with Steve Nash toward the end of his career and learn some things that can help me ... I'm still only 26," he said Wednesday. "I'm going to soak up as much as I can from him and then to play with Kobe [Bryant], who will be determined to make something happen the last few years of his career, I just felt like that was important for me to learn and move on in the rest of my career."
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby Weezy on Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:58 pm

I really hope a buyout can be worked out, I don't like the idea of missing out on Farmar after believing he was as good as signed. I think it will be hard to find a better PG for the minimum. Don't be cheap Lakers FO, Time Warner Cable is paying billions for a good team not cost cutting in any situation possible .
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:01 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
LOSLAKERS wrote:Everyone keeps talking about this Blake + Meeks for Ariza thing... Is Washington even willing to do this and why?


A Better question is why would we want Ariza? He was a great 5th guy out there that could do what was needed but as a real cog in an offense he's out of his element at a position we really need a good player at. He's never really fit the SF mold for a team and that's evident by his shooting % and watching him try and create off the dribble.

He's highly thought of here because he played an integral role in a championship but that team needed a significantly different thing from that position than this needs...


First thing, it would allow us to amnesty Metta and get under the Apron.

As far as fit, he fit here because he did what he was suppose to, and was not in a free offense like the Hornets or Washington.

When we had Pau and Kobe facilitating, he played much like Earl did. Hitting jumpers, slashing the basket, playing good defense, all without going outside his role.


Ariza worked for us like no other team not because of Pau and Kobe..... it was because of the Triangle. He's extremely limited offensively.... his handles are way below average for a 3 and doesn't move without the ball.... not exactly what is needed in the offense we're running.... I actually thing MWP brings more even at this point to this team in this system.
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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby kobe_mamba on Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:21 pm

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Jordan Farmar has agreed to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers, the veteran guard told ESPNLosAngeles.com Tuesday night.

The deal required a significant financial sacrifice by Farmar to be completed. The 6-foot-2, 180-pound guard signed a three-year, $10.5 million deal last summer to play in the Turkish Basketball League.

"They knew about my deal overseas and really didn't push it earlier because they didn't think I'd be willing to give up that guaranteed money I had over there," Farmar said in a phone interview with ESPNLosAngeles.com. "I wanted to be back in the NBA, but more importantly, back with the Lakers. This is the only situation I would have taken a minimum deal with."

"I've been a Laker since I was born," Farmar said. "I grew up a Laker fan, so regardless of where I am or who I'm playing for, or what I'm doing in life, I'm always going to stay connected to what's going on here [in Los Angeles]."

"I missed my family, I missed being home and, ultimately, I missed being a Laker."

Farmar said he is looking forward to slipping back into his No. 1 purple and gold uniform.

"I think it will be an amazing feeling, man," Farmar said. "At the end of the day, I'll always feel like I'm a Laker, regardless of I'm here or somewhere else. I'm happy just to be back and to be able to help this team go wherever we can this year and I would love to be here for the future, so we'll see how it works out."


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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby kobe_mamba on Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:25 pm

therealdeal wrote:Hill is worth about 6 Derrick Williamses.


I'm down with Damian N on this one. I LOVE J-Hill as a player and a Laker, but if we Lakers could get Derrick Williams, he could really thrive in MDA's offense at SF. Dude can play and shoot the rock
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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:33 pm

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therealdeal wrote:Hill is worth about 6 Derrick Williamses.


I'm down with Damian N on this one. I LOVE J-Hill as a player and a Laker, but if we Lakers could get Derrick Williams, he could really thrive in MDA's offense at SF. Dude can play and shoot the rock

Again... Jordan Hill is worth much more than Williams. Minnesota hates Williams. They've been trying to trade him forever. Hell they just went out and got Muhammad because they don't like or believe in Williams.
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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby kobe_mamba on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:00 pm

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kobe_mamba wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Hill is worth about 6 Derrick Williamses.


I'm down with Damian N on this one. I LOVE J-Hill as a player and a Laker, but if we Lakers could get Derrick Williams, he could really thrive in MDA's offense at SF. Dude can play and shoot the rock

Again... Jordan Hill is worth much more than Williams. Minnesota hates Williams. They've been trying to trade him forever. Hell they just went out and got Muhammad because they don't like or believe in Williams.


All the more reason to think Williams is attainable via trade with Muhammed AND Buddinger on their roster. Look, Williams may not be a Lakers savior, but he could certainly do with a change of scenery away from the Wolves. He's young, has size and great athleticism, can play SF effectively (as well as PF), can shoot and score in general, can shoot the 3-ball AND still has upside IMHO. What's not to like??

Give him a shot in a situation where he can develop without as much expectation. If not Hill, why not Blake (or Meeks for that matter) now that Farmar is on-board? Bottom line is, who plays SF for the Lakers rigth at this moment.....???
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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby XXIV on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:15 pm

jlkr wrote:
XXIV wrote:
jlkr wrote:cant have too much depth for older players who are injury-prone. so I like the Farmar signing in that respect. Not counting on both Blake and Nash to stay healthy all the time. Think both of the older PG's will need their minutes limited to preserve them for the entire season. So that's an opportunity for Farmar to step up.


I'm glad you took out the part about bringing back Morris. :man10:

Morris is the best defender of this PG bunch. Sad that ain't saying much. So far the Lakers think so too. Prepare your behind for nightly torching sessions...


I agree, although he's proven to be a good defender the other aspects of his game sort of negate that ability. Hopefully ownership realizes this and doesn't decide to bring him on again.
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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:41 pm

kobe_mamba wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
kobe_mamba wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Hill is worth about 6 Derrick Williamses.


I'm down with Damian N on this one. I LOVE J-Hill as a player and a Laker, but if we Lakers could get Derrick Williams, he could really thrive in MDA's offense at SF. Dude can play and shoot the rock

Again... Jordan Hill is worth much more than Williams. Minnesota hates Williams. They've been trying to trade him forever. Hell they just went out and got Muhammad because they don't like or believe in Williams.


All the more reason to think Williams is attainable via trade with Muhammed AND Buddinger on their roster. Look, Williams may not be a Lakers savior, but he could certainly do with a change of scenery away from the Wolves. He's young, has size and great athleticism, can play SF effectively (as well as PF), can shoot and score in general, can shoot the 3-ball AND still has upside IMHO. What's not to like??

Give him a shot in a situation where he can develop without as much expectation. If not Hill, why not Blake (or Meeks for that matter) now that Farmar is on-board? Bottom line is, who plays SF for the Lakers rigth at this moment.....???

Well that's a different story. :man10:

My only point has been that Jordan Hill is MUCH better and MUCH more valuable than Derrick Williams. If Minnesota wanted to trade Blake for Williams? I'd think about it. We could always just renounce his rights this summer so we don't have to take his cap hit.

I agree that he'd be a nice SF to have, just that he's not worth giving up Hill. That's all.
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Re: Jordan Farmar signs for Vet Min (Laker since birth - pg 9)

Postby khmrP on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:42 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:
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LOSLAKERS wrote:Everyone keeps talking about this Blake + Meeks for Ariza thing... Is Washington even willing to do this and why?

No they aren't because it's a bad deal for them. :man10:


It's not terrible. Looking at their current depth chart, they drafted a couple SF's, and are lacking a backup PG for Wall, and need a SG with Barbosa gone.

No disadvantage to Washington. It would give the Lakers the flexibility to amnesty MWP.


their backup PG is Eric Maynor, he's not that bad.
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Re: Lakers Sign Jordan Farmar To Vet Min., Pending Buyout (p. 4)

Postby Ludachris on Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:29 am

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jlkr wrote:cant have too much depth for older players who are injury-prone. so I like the Farmar signing in that respect. Not counting on both Blake and Nash to stay healthy all the time. Think both of the older PG's will need their minutes limited to preserve them for the entire season. So that's an opportunity for Farmar to step up.


And I wouldn't be too surprised to find out the Lakers were trying to move Blake.

Blake wouldn't be a bad expiring contract for a team that needs a quality PG - not a great PG, but a decent one. They might be looking to move him with the Farmar signing, maybe to get a SF?
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