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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:23 pm

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2.There has been a long history of people claiming assaults against athletes and celebs only to drop the case and go for a civil suit. Fact!


You'd think with a fan base that has been through this crap already, they'd understand this.


After I read that this happened back in Houston this line of thinking entered my mind. We shall see what happens. He has been key for us, so I hope this case does not take away from our playoff run. I also hope that justice is done no matter how this turns out.


and that is where the scepticism comes in because just like with Shannon and Kwame as soon as they started playing well in the playoffs these weird month old allegations come up. I don't see why fans wouldn't be like "hmmm sounds fishy".
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby therealdeal on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:34 pm

The first thing i thought was "Hm.... the timing seems odd."

I mean really its only now that this is an issue? The playoffs under the spotlight.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby lotus on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 pm

Seen this movie before. The allegations are common. Average girl gets a good catch, but when she's told there's no future, she makes a ruckus on the way out. Ruckus = cause trouble + get as much money as you can.

Only time will tell whether she's legit or not. But, I'm tired of this movie. :man5:
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby Center Court on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:39 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:This thread is funny.. no it is FUUUUUUNNNNNYYYY....

1.No one knows if Hill chocked out this girl. Fact!
2.There has been a long history of people claiming assaults against athletes and celebs only to drop the case and go for a civil suit. Fact!
3. A month delay is very suspecious in any case involving battery as the pictures can no longer be proven to have happened in the alleged altercation. Fact!
4. A two month delay in filing chargers for a simple domestic charge is outlandish. Fact!
5. The US Judicial system says, "innocent until proven guilty". Fact!

All this stick your chest out "I am smarter than you all" crap is getting old. If he is guilty of assault then the judicial system needs to make him pay. However, as it stands with the early information it smells, sounds, looks, and probably even taste like the many trumped up cases athletes have had to deal with before.



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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby Weezy on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:41 pm

^^^ Yeah, what puffy said, fact.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:53 pm

lotus wrote:Seen this movie before. The allegations are common. Average girl gets a good catch, but when she's told there's no future, she makes a ruckus on the way out. Ruckus = cause trouble + get as much money as you can.

Only time will tell whether she's legit or not. But, I'm tired of this movie. :man5:


+1.

Isn't the name of the movie "Hell Hath No Fury" or something like that? :man12:
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:54 pm

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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby Ariza3 on Tue May 01, 2012 12:20 am

wow. hope he doesnt miss more than game 2. we def need his energy and rebounding. double doubles of the bench easy for him. mcbob better match his energy level and pull a double double out of his [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] :disagree:
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby JGC on Tue May 01, 2012 12:26 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:This thread is funny.. no it is FUUUUUUNNNNNYYYY....

1.No one knows if Hill chocked out this girl. Fact!
2.There has been a long history of people claiming assaults against athletes and celebs only to drop the case and go for a civil suit. Fact!
3. A month delay is very suspecious in any case involving battery as the pictures can no longer be proven to have happened in the alleged altercation. Fact!
4. A two month delay in filing chargers for a simple domestic charge is outlandish. Fact!
5. The US Judicial system says, "innocent until proven guilty". Fact!

All this stick your chest out "I am smarter than you all" crap is getting old. If he is guilty of assault then the judicial system needs to make him pay. However, as it stands with the early information it smells, sounds, looks, and probably even taste like the many trumped up cases athletes have had to deal with before.


Women who are actual victims of assault do not always report the crimes and often do not report them at all. Fact!

Truth is, just as you said, Hill is innocent until proven guilty but that right extends to Jerry Sandusky as well. Not enough information to draw conclusions in Hill's case just yet so lets see what comes out before we call the girl a gold digging prostitute is all I am saying.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby TheOp on Tue May 01, 2012 1:01 am

JGC wrote:
puffyusaf#2 wrote:This thread is funny.. no it is FUUUUUUNNNNNYYYY....

1.No one knows if Hill chocked out this girl. Fact!
2.There has been a long history of people claiming assaults against athletes and celebs only to drop the case and go for a civil suit. Fact!
3. A month delay is very suspecious in any case involving battery as the pictures can no longer be proven to have happened in the alleged altercation. Fact!
4. A two month delay in filing chargers for a simple domestic charge is outlandish. Fact!
5. The US Judicial system says, "innocent until proven guilty". Fact!

All this stick your chest out "I am smarter than you all" crap is getting old. If he is guilty of assault then the judicial system needs to make him pay. However, as it stands with the early information it smells, sounds, looks, and probably even taste like the many trumped up cases athletes have had to deal with before.


Women who are actual victims of assault do not always report the crimes and often do not report them at all. Fact!

Truth is, just as you said, Hill is innocent until proven guilty but that right extends to Jerry Sandusky as well. Not enough information to draw conclusions in Hill's case just yet so lets see what comes out before we call the girl a gold digging prostitute is all I am saying.


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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby Doc Brown on Tue May 01, 2012 7:05 am

Why are we talking about Jerry Sandusky? Why is it even being compared to this? Hell why is it being brought up?


You can't compare that to this, I mean what the hell, mind = blown.

If I want to call the girl a gold digger, I will. Like Puffy said, there have been too many cases like this where someone gets the shaft and goes out of their way to get as much money as they can and stir as much trouble up as they can. The whole situation follows that to T and if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby laker911 on Tue May 01, 2012 7:22 am

"That's not choking."

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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue May 01, 2012 7:28 am

laker911 wrote:"That's not choking."

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LMAO... Nice
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby revgen on Tue May 01, 2012 7:34 am

JGC wrote:
puffyusaf#2 wrote:This thread is funny.. no it is FUUUUUUNNNNNYYYY....

1.No one knows if Hill chocked out this girl. Fact!
2.There has been a long history of people claiming assaults against athletes and celebs only to drop the case and go for a civil suit. Fact!
3. A month delay is very suspecious in any case involving battery as the pictures can no longer be proven to have happened in the alleged altercation. Fact!
4. A two month delay in filing chargers for a simple domestic charge is outlandish. Fact!
5. The US Judicial system says, "innocent until proven guilty". Fact!

All this stick your chest out "I am smarter than you all" crap is getting old. If he is guilty of assault then the judicial system needs to make him pay. However, as it stands with the early information it smells, sounds, looks, and probably even taste like the many trumped up cases athletes have had to deal with before.


Women who are actual victims of assault do not always report the crimes and often do not report them at all. Fact!

Truth is, just as you said, Hill is innocent until proven guilty but that right extends to Jerry Sandusky as well. Not enough information to draw conclusions in Hill's case just yet so lets see what comes out before we call the girl a gold digging prostitute is all I am saying.


And she did. 1 month after it supposedly happened. I can buy the idea of a woman not reporting the crime, but to report it a month after it happened and presenting photos that were supposedly from a beating that happened a month earlier? That's not a typical scenario. A woman who doesn't report an assault doesn't typically take pictures of the injuries and hold onto them for a month.

It's also strange that the prosecutor is targeting HIll just as he's becoming a rotation player for the NBA's most popular team, and 1 month after the GF reported the beating. How does it take 1 month to file charges in a simple assault and battery case?

There's nothing typical about this case at all. And that tends to raise suspicions.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue May 01, 2012 7:38 am

JGC wrote:

Women who are actual victims of assault do not always report the crimes and often do not report them at all. Fact!

Truth is, just as you said, Hill is innocent until proven guilty but that right extends to Jerry Sandusky as well. Not enough information to draw conclusions in Hill's case just yet so lets see what comes out before we call the girl a gold digging prostitute is all I am saying.


If you are going to go with that then you might want to also note that men who are victims of assault report them even less than women do. Conversely, women who usually don't report assault is usually in the form of sexual assault more than anyother. Yes, domestic violence goes unreported a great deal but like I said more men fail to report it that women.

I don't recall anyone talking about Sandusky in here or bringing up his case so I am failing to understand the purpose or coorelatation being made. In any event the DA makes cases based on opinions of the facts presented which, as people are pointing out, are pretty sketchy. If the girl left the state and went home, took some pictures at some point, waited a few weeks and then decided that what he did was so wrong that she needs to file charges then I call foul. Even if it was all true the DA would have little to no case because there is no way to prove 3 things: 1) she had the injuries when she left and Hill caused them. 2) She didn't have the alleged injuries before she ever got to Hill. 3) She didn't have someone do it when she got home a day, a week or sometime later. Not making a report directly after the incident or atleast going to a houston hospital after leaving his house makes her entire case not only suspect but almost unwinable.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby OCLakersFan247 on Tue May 01, 2012 7:43 am

I'm sorry but how do any people on this board (primarily men) know how abused women/allegeldly abused women react to situations/being beat? This entire thing is laughable. No one knows anything - negative or positive about the situation.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby revgen on Tue May 01, 2012 8:05 am

OCLakersFan247 wrote:I'm sorry but how do any people on this board (primarily men) know how abused women/allegeldly abused women react to situations/being beat? This entire thing is laughable. No one knows anything - negative or positive about the situation.


I'm sorry to say it, but I know a few who've been through it. They either 1) take action right away or 2) they don't do anything. A woman who takes pictures of the bruises but takes no action at all until a month later raises suspicions. At least for me anyway. I'll admit that I'm not a professional, so you might want to ask Punk about it.

Also, check out a thread in the Open Court forum a few months back. I think FrankDux started the topic. Those women typically represent #2.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby jlkr on Tue May 01, 2012 8:25 am

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lotus wrote:Seen this movie before. The allegations are common. Average girl gets a good catch, but when she's told there's no future, she makes a ruckus on the way out. Ruckus = cause trouble + get as much money as you can.

Only time will tell whether she's legit or not. But, I'm tired of this movie. :man5:


+1.

Isn't the name of the movie "Hell Hath No Fury" or something like that? :man12:

Fact: I've seen this play out in real life: Woman loses meal ticket, woman goes bats--t crazy. That simple.
Opinion: this scenario is likely the case with Hill.
Opinion: the woman is looking for a cash settlement in exchange for refusing to testify to the charge, forcing the prosecutor to drop the case.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby lAKERfaNaticKID on Tue May 01, 2012 8:45 am

so does anyone know yet if he's playing tonight ?
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby wcsoldier81 on Tue May 01, 2012 8:51 am

Jordan Hill:I wish I would let somebody hold me down from succeeding..truth will come out sooner or later..but right now..I want a ring..it's GAMETIME!
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby Doc Brown on Tue May 01, 2012 8:57 am

lakerswiz wrote:Well. I obviously hope he's innocent and that the girl wasn't put through anything as traumatic as she's saying.

Assuming he's innocent I'm loving his attitude.

It also kind of sucks how many times us Laker fans have heard "truth will come out sooner or later" because I'm pretty sure it happened with Kwame, Shannon and Barnes all in the last 5 years.


Throw in the recent Kobe, "Church Fight", man went to the hospital with "injured wrist", after investigation there was nothing.

And I am with on the attitude, he seems to be zoned in on making major contributions in getting a ring this year. That in itself is a great sign.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby ChumsGum on Tue May 01, 2012 9:14 am

so is he playing tonight or not?
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Tue May 01, 2012 9:27 am

He won't miss any games he says... hopefully it's true, we need his expected double double every game.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue May 01, 2012 9:43 am

OCLakersFan247 wrote:I'm sorry but how do any people on this board (primarily men) know how abused women/allegeldly abused women react to situations/being beat? This entire thing is laughable. No one knows anything - negative or positive about the situation.


Because people live with women. If there are many women being abused that means there are many men that know women who have been abused. No matter how you spin it on average it happens like people have said. They either, 1. Go right to the police or 2. don't go at all. There are always exceptions to that of course but the longer it takes to file a complaint the more likely it is for "other" reasons than justice which usually means money.
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Re: Jordan Hill: Charged with assault of ex-girlfriend in Feb

Postby kray28 on Tue May 01, 2012 11:32 am

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lakerswiz wrote:Well. I obviously hope he's innocent and that the girl wasn't put through anything as traumatic as she's saying.

Assuming he's innocent I'm loving his attitude.

It also kind of sucks how many times us Laker fans have heard "truth will come out sooner or later" because I'm pretty sure it happened with Kwame, Shannon and Barnes all in the last 5 years.


Throw in the recent Kobe, "Church Fight", man went to the hospital with "injured wrist", after investigation there was nothing.

And I am with on the attitude, he seems to be zoned in on making major contributions in getting a ring this year. That in itself is a great sign.


I think the most recent was Caracter on Twitter about his IHOP exploits.

All these idiots need to sit down with a lawyer sometime and learn why it's a bad move to run your mouth on Twitter when you are being investigated for a crime. There's a reason the cops tell you that you have a right to remain silent.

If you are ever arrested, for any cause, just or not, you do not under any circumstances talk to the police, and as a corollary, you do not talk to the public, you do not say anything until you get your phone call and see a lawyer.
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