Vasashi17 wrote:This trade was SOLELY done to cut salary.
I don't know if I'd go that far. Yes, it was largely financially motivated but Sessions would have had 0% chance of starting if Fish was still here. After getting Sessions, we had to do something with Fisher. He wasn't getting benched, only way Fish would've gotten benched was if we traded for CP3, Deron, etc.
Vasashi17 wrote:But can someone tell me how that makes our team more championship worthy in the immediate future. Say what you want about Fish in the regular season, but a player like that definitely helps a team in the playoffs. The argument for Hill is that he's big man insurance. But lets say Drew or Pau go down, who gives a damn about insurance, cause our title hopes go down with them. Plus we had big man insurance in LO before we salary dumped him. Personally, I would've liked to pick up Turiaf as big man insurance with our final 15th roster spot. But LA clearly has a one track mind of shedding salary and again, how does that help the immediate chances of a title to a team sporting an aging star in Kobe that needs to supply him weapons for the now.
As much as I like Fish and as grateful as I am for everything he's done for LA over the years, at this juncture, I feel losing him was addition by subtraction. I don't see how we were a championship team with him as our starting PG. We still might not be a championship team, but we won't have opposing PGs earning a career contract against us in the post-season. Wouldn't have minded bringing Ronny back because there's a familiarity there, but only thing over Hill he'd bring would be better dance moves and a better personality. But in Hill we did get a hustle, possible rotation big. That is a need this team had -- one of our smaller needs -- but still a need. Drew's health is always a question as far as I'm concerned. Murphy has a history of injuries. McRoberts had an injury this season. And then Pau has his "time of the month" and woman problems...so there's that. No if we lose Drew/Pau for an extended period, it doesn't matter, cause we are done. But if we lose them for a game or two -- like if Drew decided to body check another dwarf -- Hill would come in handy.
Vasashi17 wrote:Fish reached a buyout agreement and in the process opted out of his final year. So tell me, how hard it would've been to have LA convince him to retire this summer. Meanwhile we keep the pick and use it as trade bait. That pick is much better trade bait than Jordan Hill, wouldn't you agree?
Hill is a 5/5 big so no there are no guarantees that essentially a 2nd round pick (late 20s) 1st rounder would've netted us anything better than that. Possible...sure. Teams usually don't like to trade for late 1st round picks, unless they love a guy who they KNOW won't be there in the 2nd. Typically they'll buy a 2nd round pick from a team for much less and that contract isn't guaranteed, like a 1st round pick is. Making it a much sounder financial decision for that organization.
Also, I think there is no way in hell we were going to be able to convince Fish to retire. He's already said this year that he wants to play a couple more years. He gave up next year's salary so he can have complete control over which contender he signs with. I expect to see him backing up Rose or Cole/Chalmers for a couple years.
Vasashi17 wrote:What this deal pretty much boiled down to was dumping salary of LO and Fish saving LA millions upon millions in cap and tax. But again, how does this help our team other than fattening up the owners wallet? LA is still way above the cap and shedding LO and Fish's salary still doesn't get us below the tax threshold.
It helps cause it opens the opportunity for Sessions to start. Also, LO was a mess entering this season. After we attempted to trade him in the CP3 deal and failed, we had to move him somewhere for something. Not to mention the organization felt as though they had a small window to trade him, so while we could've gotten a better deal, we could've had a truncated timetable. After LO left Dallas for a couple weeks, reports came out of LA that we knew he was contemplating retirement. Having LO walk away from the game and leaving the Lakers with nothing in return would've been even worse.