J-Hill: benched again for no sane reason

Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Finwë on Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:56 pm

^^^^ yup, agreed Punk.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:09 pm

Ariza3 wrote:he needs to be in the rotation. it sucks he only gets to play when dwight is in foul trouble but there has to be a way to get him solid minutes every game. him and metta were easily the reason we got back in the game. 6 offensive boards and 14 points (6-9 FG) are you kidding me. def got fouled a lot too so prob would have had more than 2 trips to the line which he was making. his midrange was ON tonight and he was ready and aggressive with nash's passes off pnr. loved his game tonight.

seriously hope this game woke dantoni up and made him realize he has to play him and especially play him with nash and metta. sorry jamison but one player at a time and hill is first


Jordan definitely should have regular rotation minutes. Hell there's times out there he looks better than Pau or Dwight in some of the areas where they normally look good. If not fighting back from whatever is hindering them still at this point. And on top he has and he's starting to hit with regularity a sweet, nice elevation for a big man.....midrange J. He keeps trying to tell "Dan" that he can play in his system. Hell yeah he can. Night in and night out. Play the man. :bang: You're an idiot if you don't or worse push to trade him.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby The Rock on Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:04 am

https://twitter.com/brosales12/status/284522928761098240

Hill's offensive rebound rate best in the league at 21.2. Next is Andre Drummond w/16.8. A 4.4% difference. Let's process that for a second.


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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby JLaker17 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:26 am

Needs to play more
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby therealdeal on Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:45 pm

8/8 in 25 minutes.

I love this guy's play. I know he's not getting a ton of minutes, but goodness does he make those minutes count.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby denimPortugal on Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:55 pm

The Hustle Guy: JordAnimal Hill! :jam2: :jam2:
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:00 pm

I'm still pissed they gave him a cheap 3 second call last night after he made a dude look foolish in the post and scored on wide open hook shot.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:17 pm

I remember when we traded Fisher to Houston and we retained him. Nobody expected much then he comes in the OKC game and does well. Since then, he's been our best bench player.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby LakerFan1235 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:57 pm

there are 96 minutes at the center/pf position. 72 to Pau and Dwight, and then give the rest to Hill. This is what D'antoni should do if he doesn't want to tire out our players by march.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby borri on Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:07 pm

The Rock wrote:https://twitter.com/brosales12/status/284522928761098240

Hill's offensive rebound rate best in the league at 21.2. Next is Andre Drummond w/16.8. A 4.4% difference. Let's process that for a second.


That ridiculous. :jam2: :bow:
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:57 pm

Love this guy. That is all.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Helljumper on Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:05 pm

It seems like if he's on the floor for more than 10 minutes, his statline is pretty much an automatic near double-double.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Ariza3 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:33 pm

Hill's offensive rebound rate best in the league at 21.2. Next is Andre Drummond w/16.8. A 4.4% difference. Let's process that for a second.


wow thats amazing. the dude is relentless on the boards. glad hes getting significant minutes now. his energy and hustle in awesome. :jam2:
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby lotus on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:49 pm

Best bang for the buck on the whole roster.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby karacha on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:53 pm

Keep Jordan Hill.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:57 pm

Beast mode.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Ariza3 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:19 pm

amazing game. should have finished it for pau. he had 8/7 (4/5 FG) in 11 minutes and finished with 10/8 (5/8 FG) in 18 minutes.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:21 pm

He played great. Should have played more. Not sure why he didn't. Especially given the suckitude from our other bigs tonight.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Ariza3 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:42 pm

+7 tonight. only one in positive besides MWP who only at the end played better.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:57 am

Good game. He's so productive out there. He should have been in the game the last 2-3 minutes; he actually could have been the difference between winning & losing tonight. He sparked us in the begnning of the game when we were down by 11; he could have done the same at then end of the game.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Nashty Gal on Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:58 am

he didn't play in the end because of pau's dinner date with pringles
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby borri on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:39 am

This is no reason why Hill shouldn't start over Pau. None.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby noobiew on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:50 am

Remembered that not too long ago MDA talked to the media claiming that both Hill & Jamison will be totally out of the rotation for a while because he likes what MWP doing at the 4 and MWP will be his backup 4 ? but Hill played so well and that made MDA had no choice but to play him, Hill proved MDA wrong
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:54 am

Jamison will too if given the chance. Its nights like this than we need another guy off the bench next to Hill. When you got Dwight Pau AND MWP shooting TERRIBLE Dantoni should have played Hill more and Jamison period.

I feel that tonight would have been perfect for Hill to finish the game and log more minutes. After like Hills first 8 minutes where he gave us 8/6 that should have been an indicator to play him ALOT more. And when Pau continued to suck big time then Jamison should have been put it. It would have been a huge boost for him and who cares about Pau's feelings. this is the NBA. if youre shooting 2-12 and someone else can come in and do better to help your team win than they should.

besides Hill, disappointed in the teams overall effort on both ends tonight. kobe's chucking ball hog mode. and danotni for not playing hill more as he was easily the best big tonight and for not playing jamison at all as he could have helped more than pau im sure on both ends.
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Re: Jordan Hill Discussion: impact off the bench

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:03 pm

At a time when the Lakers wonder about their identity, reserve forward Jordan Hill provides a perfect blueprint on how to navigate all the various obstacles.

No plays are drawn up for him, yet he still produces. Hill plays in a system that calls for outside shooters and smaller players, but he still provides value. It appeared Lakers coach Mike D’Antoni would reduce his role after doing it before with the New York Knicks, but Hill still kept pushing. Hill personified such qualities in the Lakers’ 103-99 loss Tuesday to the Philadelphia 76ers by posting 10 points on 5 of 8 shooting and eight rebounds.

“I just go out there and hustle every time I’m out there on the floor,” Hill said. “I just go out and bring it every time. No matter how many minutes I get, I just try to bring it.”

So far, that approach has worked.

D’Antoni cites Hill’s “energy” for moving up in the rotation over Antawn Jamison, who hasn’t played in the past six games. Against Philadelphia, Hill posted six points and two rebounds within the first two minutes he checked into the lineup with 7:33 left in the first quarter. Hill also shot even more field goals than Dwight Howard, who had only seven points on 1 of 7 shooting.

“We kind of need Jordan’s energy,” D’Antoni said. “We need his defense and his ability to get offensive rebounds, his ability to be able to run the floor and be a big presence, and mostly having some youthfulness [with] good legs.”

D’Antoni didn’t always have those sentiments.

Hill opened his career in the 2009-10 season with the New York Knicks under D’Antoni in a somewhat precarious position as the eighth overall draft pick. After averaging only four points in 25 minutes through 24 games in New York at the beginning of the 2008-9 season, Hill was then traded to the Houston Rockets with Jared Jefferies before the trade deadline as part of a three-team deal that resulted in the Rockets’ Tracy McGrady going to the Knicks.

“In New York, it was a lot different,” Hill said. “I was a rookie and there were a lot of veterans in front of me at the four and the five. They didn’t know who I was whether I was a four or five. I was kind of frail. It still is, but I know I can definitely play the five or the four. I’m just trying to get better.”
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