Jordan Hill Discussion: Cleared to play (66)

Pretty much what you guys said.
I do wish he'd pass the ball out sometimes when he gets that offensive board, sometimes it feels like he's forcing it trying to get a shot to go when there are like 3 defenders under the basket. Grab the board, see if there's room to operate, if not, pass it out, fresh shot clock.
Also, the refs don't like him very much Yeah he's guilty of the occational dumb foul, but he gets a foul called for NOTHING too, he's just there standing guarding a guy on the block and he'll pick up a foul out of nowhere. Weird

played VERY well for us tonight on both ends. got robbed by the refs though...crawford

really hoping 'Antoni can find a way to get this guy solid minutes even when Pau comes back. There is no way a coach can ignore the hustle/energy of a player like this.

Jordan is playing extremely well but I wouldn't be mad if he doesnt play many meaningful minutes, Dwight is doing well at C, Pau is a Center so you have to give him a look there, Jamison has been fantastic as a stretch 4...its not that Hill is not good enough its just that we have better players who need minutes in that position. It is a very long season I hope Hill doesnt get discouraged and loses his intensity we're gonna need him over the course of the season here and there...its good to know that when Pau or Howard get into foul trouble you can count on Hill. That is a huge plus

lakerswiz wrote:

khmrP wrote:There is no way a coach can ignore the hustle/energy of a player like this.

Sure there is. He could be named Mike Dan Tony.

true but Brown also managed to ignore Jamison/Meeks, so no coach is perfect. Just hoping Antoni can see during this stretch that hill is a productive player regardless of his offensive skills.

Hill/Duhon or Blake or Morris for Sessions. Sign Martin.

Sounds pretty damn good right now.

Dwight(36)/Pau(12)/Sacre
Pau(20)/Jamison(24)/Martin(4)
Artest(32)/Kobe(6)/Ebanks(6)
Kobe(28)/Meeks(20)
Nash(28)/Sesh(20)

sounds a lot more like a championship level team with much more balance.

IMO Hill is going to have to be traded. He's probably our best trade piece given contract, age, impact. While we'd all love to see him get more mins, Dwight/Pau/Jamison is teh rotation and it makes perfect sense. we won our rings with Bynum/Pau/LO. This is better version of that. Sign Kenyon as a extra body and great defender/enforcer and then Sacre can get very spare mins in case of fould trouble to both Pau and Dwight.

I'm curious as to how Blake will play when he returns, but having a lighting quick PG who can probe/attack/create off of penetration is exactly what this team needs. If he could be a good defender, all the better. But I think it's clear Hill is going to be the odd man out and given that Kenyon is available and cheap, I think moving Hill for the 6th man level pg would do wonders. Meeks will find easy buckets off of that, Jamison can flourish, and Pau get's to play mins at C where he can still be a big factor.

Not saying Sesh is available, but maybe someone comparable.

lakerswiz wrote:I will never be able to post without you mentioning Mike Brown for some strange reason, will I?

thats not my intention, but its just to show that every coach out there has a way of overlooking productive players, I said I would hope antoni would see the benefits of playing Hill more, I know it probably gona go back to the way it was once Pau comes back, oh well wasted talent I suppose.

Glad Pau is continuing to rest tonight so Hill can keep getting some good minutes and producing at a high level.

We Need JHill at 8 to 10ppg and get 12 to 15 if needed

What silly statement to make.

Thin? It's only recently gotten thin with Gasol going down. Not to mention 16 minutes is plenty of time when you look at the talent above him in Howard, Gasol, and Jamison.

i missed it: why did hill sit in favor of sacre in the second half? did dantoni take the knicks agains the spread?

Where is he? Even Sacre playing now over him ... don't get it at all

Hill is hurt. Back spasms.

revgen wrote:Hill is hurt. Back spasms.

Okay thanks for clearing that up - any timetable?

Nothing official. I'm guessing that it's day-to-day. That's kind of how back spasms are.

Interesting that these back spams start to randomly flare up the game before Hill becomes eligible to be traded...

Helljumper wrote:Interesting that these back spams start to randomly flare up the game before Hill becomes eligible to be traded...

He can't be traded until Jan.15.

would you trade J Hill for Bargini on the Raptors

No but partly because I don't know who Bargini is.

Steal @ 8 mil/2 yrs. Kupchak is a thief.