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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby JGC on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:47 pm

BTW, I hate to even bring this up...but does anyone think this signing is ANY indication of the Lakers' intended direction as it pertains to D12?

I'm thinking, well, you make this move if you plan to give Hill minutes and you could do that by reducing Bynum and Gasol's minutes. Bynum shouldn't be playing 36 mins per game. D12 though, probabyl could and probably should.

A part of me thinks that if you're going to bring D12 here, then why would you pay any backup big $4M per year? Hmm, I dunno.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby trodgers on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:54 pm

Good signing, good price.

Starting five? Check.
Backup C? Check.
Backup PF? Check.
Backup wing? Hmm...maybe.
Backup PG? I guess.

JGC, I don't see how this affects Howard, honestly.
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Re: Heat, Warriors, Magic and Wolves Interested In Jordan Hill

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:57 pm

khmrP wrote:
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Damian Necronamous wrote:Now that we have Jamison, we just really just sign Jordan Hill and see if we can deal McRoberts and Goudelock to the Warriors for Brandon Rush in a S&T.

i support this :jam2: we can package McSuck with Howard trade if that goes through.


God I hate the McScrub and McSuck stuff. The guy is a smart player with size, athleticism, blue collar hustle and Lamar lite skills. Can handle the ball in the open court even like Lamar. Almost like Lamar. If given the encouragement to do so.

I totally blame Brown for doing nothing to encourage the game he has and killing his confidence with his asinine rotations and long term benchings for no apparent reason. That said....with AJ here now and Hill coming back, I bet McRoberts will be dealt for another asset. Really wanted to see him running the floor on the break this year with Nash occasionally if in games at the same time.


please, Mcscrub is no where near Odom...so you telling me Brown made him pass up shots? encouragement :man10: , dudes a pro bring your A game if you want PT, nobody got time to baby you.


You telling me that Brown had any sense at all to his rotations and sitting players for long periods and what he expected out of them for them to get some kind of consistent playing time? Brown is the antithesis of Phil Jackson in that regard. He may still eff everything up this season in that regard as well if the F.O. doesn't keep an eye on him. That's the big elephant in the room now that Nash and Kobe will be running the offense. McRoberts knew he wasn't needed on this team last year to score and that he was on the screwiest of short leashes. Whatever. But he sure as hell is no scrub talent wise.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Congo Cash on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:59 pm

:man10: :man10: @ Hill being overpaid... In other news a stiff like Asik got 8 mil...
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:59 pm

If the last move to make for the bench was signing a combo guard like Delonte West, I could live with no more moves to strengthen the bench.

Nash (30) / West (18)
Kobe (34) / West (6) / DJO (8)

I could dig that backcourt......let Blake rot and used in emergency situations. Use Ebanks / Kobe / Jamison at the backup 3 by committee. I think that would be pretty solid.


We could always flip McFly for Rush to make things easier. :man1:
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby ragesince1516 on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:00 pm

good signing, I'm glad he's back and his contract is not overpaid.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby khmrP on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:02 pm

Doc Brown wrote:

We could always flip McFly for Rush to make things easier. :man1:


if only it was that easy :jam2:
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:06 pm

Great. That means no Jermaine Oneal.

Also, we will get Jamison at the 3 for 6 to 8 per game. Long line up.

Just need to turn McBobs or Blake into Rush, trade the other for a pick, and sign West or Nate to the vet minimum.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby lakersyunowin on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:08 pm

ok good, bench is coming together slowly
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby lakersin4 on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:10 pm

It's not even close to overpaying.. Glad to see McRoberts will likely be the one on the way out.. Jordan deserves that money much more.. Especially with Jamison at PF & McRoberts unable to play C
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:11 pm

YES! $8 seems like a lot but then again he was a huge boost off our terrible bench. Glad we have a guy who can backup both Pau and Drew. Really stepped up in the playoffs and I hope he gets better. Him and Jaminson in the front court for Pau & Drew will be nice.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby BDG on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:13 pm

I'm curious how much better he'll look if he's on the floor with Nash ...

Don't forget he can pick & pop as well.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:32 pm

Punk-101 wrote:
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Rooscooter wrote:4 million a year for a good 20 game stretch.... I hope they know what they're doing.... I hope the second year is a team option.

I'm torn on Hill.... he played well for us but in numerous opportunities before he didn't stick in the rotation in NY or Houston.....

I still think we need a legit back-up center somewhere on the bench.... and not Oneal.

I get what you are saying but during that stretch with us he really didn't do anything that I thought would be hard to sustain..
It wasn't as if he was shooting lights out or something, basically all he gave us was hustle & intensity (which we desperately needed from at least one big). IMO that shouldn't be hard to sustain, I don't see a reason why he wouldn't keep playing that way, he knows that's what he's here for.
If anything, a full training camp + a defined rotation & role should benefit him and make him even more consistent..

Contract year would be the concern. I personally think the guy's legit, but there's a chance he was hustling for a payday.


If we get the effort he gave during that 20 game stretch and most of the playoffs it's a great deal..... That much is a fact. I don't know why he couldn't break through on either NY or Houston.... either he didn't get a chance or there was something else afoot.... Like I said above.... I hope the second year is a team option just in case it was a payday playday.....
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:34 pm

BDG wrote:I'm curious how much better he'll look if he's on the floor with Nash ...

Don't forget he can pick & pop as well.


Everyone is saying how good everyone on our team is going to look with Nash..... unless he's playing 48 minutes a game a lot of these guys will have to look good with Blake because I'll bet Nash gets less than 5 minutes a game with the second unit....
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:38 pm

BDG wrote:I'm curious how much better he'll look if he's on the floor with Nash ...

Don't forget he can pick & pop as well.

But you have to think how much time will he really be on the floor with Nash?? When Jordan Hill is in the game Nash will more than likely be resting.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Weezy on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:39 pm

I don't think we have to just go off the small sample size he had with us really, his stats have been pretty much the same his whole career. And as mentioned, mostly what he brings is hustle and I've noticed him doing that since college if I remember right, and fans of other teams he's been on have said it's one of his traits as well.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Jellincon on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:45 pm

Great! Now we just need to get Delonte West or another SG/SF to fill out the bench.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby The Laker Link on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:12 pm

Awesome. Jamison and Hill off the bench.....that'll be nice
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Frank Dux on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:15 pm

Great news! Hill will be a great fit in Nash's offense. If we can somehow steal Brandon Rush then I think we have to be the favorite.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Jigglin Jello on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:20 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
BDG wrote:I'm curious how much better he'll look if he's on the floor with Nash ...

Don't forget he can pick & pop as well.


Everyone is saying how good everyone on our team is going to look with Nash..... unless he's playing 48 minutes a game a lot of these guys will have to look good with Blake because I'll bet Nash gets less than 5 minutes a game with the second unit....


I wish we could clone Nash so that we COULD have him on the floor for all 48.

What I'd really like to see is Nash in while Kobe is out and visa versa. This let's Kobe do his ball dominant thing for stretches or fill the playmaker role as needed. Nash gets to do his ball dominant thing and make everyone else look good. Nash, along with Jamison, can keep the second unit good enough to compete with the starters of all but the top tier teams in the league, allowing our other starters to get rest without worrying about games slipping away from us.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Clevername on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:24 pm

Good, I'm very happy to have him back.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Frank Dux on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:25 pm

I heard he turned down 3/15 from Minny to come back and be a Laker. That's the type of player we need here!
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Jellincon on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:29 pm

Jigglin Jello wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
BDG wrote:I'm curious how much better he'll look if he's on the floor with Nash ...

Don't forget he can pick & pop as well.


Everyone is saying how good everyone on our team is going to look with Nash..... unless he's playing 48 minutes a game a lot of these guys will have to look good with Blake because I'll bet Nash gets less than 5 minutes a game with the second unit....


I wish we could clone Nash so that we COULD have him on the floor for all 48.

What I'd really like to see is Nash in while Kobe is out and visa versa. This let's Kobe do his ball dominant thing for stretches or fill the playmaker role as needed. Nash gets to do his ball dominant thing and make everyone else look good. Nash, along with Jamison, can keep the second unit good enough to compete with the starters of all but the top tier teams in the league, allowing our other starters to get rest without worrying about games slipping away from us.


If we get Delonte West I think he'll be able to fit the role of playmaker for the bench. He's a good ball handler and has a good feel for the game.

If not him then maybe Nate Robinson. He may not be the as good a playmaker as West but he's a scorer and can bring some much needed energy of the bench in spurts.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:31 pm

Frank Dux wrote:Great news! Hill will be a great fit in Nash's offense. If we can somehow steal Brandon Rush then I think we have to be the favorite.

I think we already are at least in the West.
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Re: Jordan Hill Signs With Lakers (2 Years/$8 Million)

Postby 432J on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:38 pm

nice :jam2:

now if they can only get west and rush, that would be one amazing offseason
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