Rooscooter wrote: JGC wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:^^You really don't see it do you?... We have only one player on the team that can create his own shot.... one player that can get to the hoop and actually finish..... one player that can be counted on down the stretch....
we have some other "big names" but we saw last night that some other teams do as well..... and our "names" don't seem to live up to the "bigness" of them in tight situations.
Kobe is having to carry both ends of the floor right now because of the lack of any sort of cohesiveness on either end of the floor.
Last night we walked right into their trap over and over again..... Nash was completely nullified to the point that Morris' time of the floor was more productive.... Kobe was standing at the 3 point line with Wade in his shorts and we couldn't get the ball below the 3 point line with more than 8 seconds on the clock most of the night.
Kobe is playing too many minutes and being asked to do too much on a team with some other supposed "stars". He isn't the one that needs to adjust or sacrifice anymore..... it's about time the others got their collective acts together IMO.
Honestly, I think at times we THINK he has to 'carry' the team on both ends of the floor. The reality is, he doesn't on MOST nights if he (and we, as a team) play the right way together. And when we're not playing the right way together, a lot of that is going to go on Kobe as well. He's the leader of this team. That means you don't get to take the credit for the team playing well together, if you won't also accept any responsibility for the team not playing well together.
I also don't get the comments Kobe "having" to do things. Like exert energy on defense. Carry the team. Play on both ends of the floor. He's a freaking all-star/superstar making $30M per year which is more than any other player in the league. Saying he "has" to try on defense or carry the team, or play on both ends of the floor is like saying Howard "has" to be the anchor of the defense or Nash "has" to get teammates shots.
FWIW, Kobe played a bad game against the Heat, I even gave him the Zero, but I really don't think one can BLAME Kobe for the loss. That might not make any sense, but, the whole team was out of sorts and I for one don't think it was because of Kobe. But we hung in there, we were RIGHT there against an elite team and defending champs. I think we lost the game in the first half. I mean 16 turnovers in a HALF? Unacceptable. And sure, we were up by 1, but if commit your average (which is still high) we should have been up double digits.
Kobe did what he was asked to do last night didn't he?.... he played decoy and on the perimeter while we tried to get Howard involved early.... he even forced some passes to Howard in that effort. Giving Kobe the ball with 8 seconds left on the shot clock 30 feet from the hoop and saying the out come "wasn't a good game" is missing all that took place before that moment of the missed shot or the forced pass..... The game plan was blown up at the 11:40 mark of the first quarter..... yet we didn't adjust.... didn't change..... didn't try different lineups..... Finally in the late 4th we ran a few down picks and got Kobe on the move and he got a sliver of daylight to shoot.... and guess what?... he made most of them. Now lets see if the coaching staff remembers that or if we go back to the pick and roll 40 feet from the hoop again.
As for your continued comments about Kobe's effort on both ends..... bias is one thing but this is getting somewhat ridiculous IMO. Kobe is on the floor way too much IMO and that results in what you are seeing and interpreting as some sort of pre-meditated act..... The rest of the team..... you know... the ones with all of the Awards.... they are the ones that are not pulling their own weight at this point. Why is Kobe carrying this squad like he carried Kwame and Smush?.... I'll give you a hint. It's not "selfishness" that was proven in the 08-11 stretch.....
Are you saying Kobe had a good game because he did exactly what he was asked to do? I'm saying Kobe did NOT have a good game, but I don't think, given the dynamics of the game, that he the finger can really be pointed at him as the primary reason. I'm just not sure I can agree with the contention that Kobe had nothing to do with his production in the first 3 quarters.
As for the other comments ... I'm not talking about pre-meditation. Huh? Never said that. I did say, I'm not going to feel sorry for any all-star (or in Kobe's case, superstar) that makes $30M per year if he has to carry his team on both ends of the floor. Isn't that WHY he makes more than any professional basketball player on the planet of Earth?
I agree the other players aren't carrying their own weight. I think a part of that is on the coaching staff, a part of it is on injuries, and a part of it is on Kobe. I know that might sound weird, but I just believe that the best player on a team, his job is to make the other players play better. There is only so much you can do with a Kwame and Smush. Funny that you mention them, because he made those guys better. They had their best years playing along side Kobe. Now, there is only so much you can get out of those guys... but the point is, he made them play better and more efficiently than they had with other teams. That isn't happening here.
If you're suggesting that Kobe views Dwight Howard and Steve Nash as Kwame Brown and Smush Parker, then maybe you're raising an interesting point. That there is a trust factor missing here with this team? It doesn't make any sense for him to have to do that. So maybe we need to be trying something different if that is in fact the case. I mean, what's next? We bring Lebron James and Chris Paul over here and we're going to have conversations about how Kobe has to carry them like they're Luke Walton and Smush Parker? Figure it out. If you're having to carry guys like this, then you're not playing with them the right way.