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Postby kobayashi on Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:19 pm

I will reserve my judgement on this 100% until I see him in a uniform and playing effectively.


:jam2: me too.... but we all thirst for news, and somehow they're good news...

But it's great to hear all of these things. I hope they're not over reaching here.
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Postby dj vitus on Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:41 pm

He said the surgery was "different." Can anyone explain how?
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Postby LTLakerFan on Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:50 pm

If they told you Klapper would have to have you taken out :man4:
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Postby Lakerjones on Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:33 am

Great news thus far. I like it. :jam2:
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Postby MadMax on Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:45 am

dj vitus wrote:He said the surgery was "different." Can anyone explain how?

A good question. No media outlets really picked up on this. I'd also like to know how it was different from other procedures.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:41 am

MadMax wrote:
dj vitus wrote:He said the surgery was "different." Can anyone explain how?

A good question. No media outlets really picked up on this. I'd also like to know how it was different from other procedures.

So would I. Something doesn't add up to me here unless this is some sort of ground breaking procedure and if that's true, then why aren't more media outlets, including medical journals, making a huge deal out of this?
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Postby trodgers on Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:09 am

How long did it take us to really hear about his overseas knee treatment(s)? I suspect we'll hear more...
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Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:15 am

Maybe these 2 possibilities? Can't make a big deal about it until it actually translates on the floor during season. Or the "conspiracy" theory with it not being fully torn as reported by the Lakers according to the member here with the friend. I hate even writing the latter though, can't imagine the BSPN bleep storm if that were true and it came out.
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Re: Wolverine Discussion: Shatters recovery timetable! (689)

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:19 am

@DrRobertKlapper: KOBE was right! Having his surgery immediately after tearing his Achilles does speed up his recovery. Less muscle atrophy to rehab


@DrRobertKlapper: The new advance for sewing the Achilles involves a special way to LOCK the sutures together as you weave the 2 ends together.Will not retear


@DrRobertKlapper: The Kevlar like sutures we use to sew the Achilles together is NOT as strong as the Scar the body makes. KOBE will not tear it again!


@DrRobertKlapper: 4 reasons for KOBE to exceed expectations. 1)improved surgical technique2)new Kevlar sutures3)accelerated rehab4)MAMBA FOCUS


@DrRobertKlapper: There is a second benefit to sewing the Achilles in repairing a tear. The holes from the needle path allows healing vessels to grow=stronger


@DrRobertKlapper: KOBE's Achilles repair is OUTSIDE of ankle joint and Surgery was immediate. This made a direct repair with stitches possible.Chronic=Graft


@DrRobertKlapper: When KOBE shows off his Achilles scar you must remember how important the planning of WHERE to make an incision is. What lies below is key!
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Postby khmrP on Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:23 am

jeez, kevlar sutures? :bow:
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:28 am

Thanks Doc.

Interesting stuff... That definitely helps explain some of the improved recovery time. I'm not sold that those new procedures blow out the recovery time like it's being reported, but maybe Kobe is putting in that much work?

I don't know.

I'm still cautiously optimistic about this. I've seen too many nasty Achilles injuries to just accept that Kobe will be Kobe again when the season starts. It's all sounding good though.
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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:18 am

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Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:26 am

therealdeal wrote:Thanks Doc.

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Postby jlkr on Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:10 pm

That's wonderful news. But there's still a corner of my brain that gets the butterflies over the possibility of premature return to action leading to reinjury. Just have to trust the doctor, I guess. Want to be sure every which way that he is good to go.

I wonder if Kobe should be thinking about becoming a PG most of the time with a transition to a strictly on the floor game like Payton, Kidd, etc. He could last a long time doing that if his achilles is good to go. Relying on smarts, that sort of thing.
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Postby Doc Brown on Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:18 pm

jlkr wrote:I wonder if Kobe should be thinking about becoming a PG most of the time with a transition to a strictly on the floor game like Payton, Kidd, etc. He could last a long time doing that if his achilles is good to go. Relying on smarts, that sort of thing.


I was thinking about this as well. For this to happen, IMO, we would have to get solid wing defenders at the 2 and 3 spots, that could "cover" the elite PG's. That way Kobe doesn't have to worry about guarding the #1 or #2 perimeter option on the opposing team and can focus on running the offense.

I think he could lead a potent offense if he went into Kobe Johnson mode like he did for a stretch last season.
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Postby puffyusaf#2 on Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:31 pm

Kobe get strong so we can do the impossible
For what it's worth, the Lakers also clinched the Pacific Division, an achievement Bryant dismissed by saying "We don't hang divisions." No, only the big NBA championship banners are considered wall-worthy for the Lakers.
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Re: Wolverine Discussion: Shatters recovery timetable! (689)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:44 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
jlkr wrote:I wonder if Kobe should be thinking about becoming a PG most of the time with a transition to a strictly on the floor game like Payton, Kidd, etc. He could last a long time doing that if his achilles is good to go. Relying on smarts, that sort of thing.


I was thinking about this as well. For this to happen, IMO, we would have to get solid wing defenders at the 2 and 3 spots, that could "cover" the elite PG's. That way Kobe doesn't have to worry about guarding the #1 or #2 perimeter option on the opposing team and can focus on running the offense.

I think he could lead a potent offense if he went into Kobe Johnson mode like he did for a stretch last season.

Well even if he recovers well enough to play on opening night, he'll have lost a step or two so I can't see him doing what he did last season. I think we'll see a much more measured game which is why I think the PG idea is a good one.

Not necessarily the "PG", but playing WAY more as a facilitator out there and then picking his spots to attack. Like you said "Kobe Johnson".

Defensively we're going to have a horrid time though this season. :man10:
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Re: Wolverine Discussion: Shatters recovery timetable! (689)

Postby dj vitus on Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:09 pm

Thanks Doc :jam2:

Interesting point Dr. Klapper made about chronic achilles injuries (assuming Kobe's is acute)...

My guess is that most achilles tears are from chronic injuries where the achilles has just worn out over the years (Billups, perhaps?), and that Kobe's (as well as possibly Wilkins') was just a freak accident, in which case should heal better.
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Postby revgen on Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:26 pm

jlkr wrote:I wonder if Kobe should be thinking about becoming a PG most of the time with a transition to a strictly on the floor game like Payton, Kidd, etc. He could last a long time doing that if his achilles is good to go. Relying on smarts, that sort of thing.


We tried that last season and Nash stunk it up as a SG. Nash needs the ball in his hands. Kobe is better playing off the ball at this point in his career than Nash is.
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Postby Barnstable on Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:02 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:I don't think I've shared these designs I made with you guys, well anyway here they are in case I haven't :jam2:

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